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Re: 2017 Reliability - Small Cars & by brand
« Reply #15 on: 02 January 2018, 16:34:26 »

Every full time mechanic who I consider worth the name says the same thing. "If you want a car that wont break down, buy a Toyota".
Ive never owned one, so cant verify it, but I expect there must be something in it.
I think that's a hangover from the early 90s.  Modern ones are every bit as tosh as every other car, going by the PoS Mrs TB's dad is having repaired almost monthly, a colleague's company car (though I suspect half of that is down to dealer incompetence), and a friend's little Aygo.  And their diesels are guaranteed to get horrifically expensive at around 70-80k
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Re: 2017 Reliability - Small Cars & by brand
« Reply #16 on: 02 January 2018, 16:42:18 »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/cars/article-5206115/Most-reliable-small-cars.html

The Renault Modus in a Nissan Note disguise is the most unreliable. Who would of thought it? ::) ::) ::)

Jaguar as a brand is well down the list, so I guess it is a 'good' replacement for ex-Omega owners! :o :o :o
a) I would not believe anything from the Fail
b) Last time I checked, Jag don't do a small car

Jaguar has a reliability image problem from yesteryear, not helped by Ford's financial issues more recently.  But, ironically, since the Indians have taken over, I think they (and sister LR) have pretty much got on top of the issues (and have the stats to show that).  Yes, any luxury high technology car will have lots of electrical type issues (ask any 7 series owner), but good reliability was one of the factors for Jag to be on my list :).

As it happened, there wasn't a lot of other choices, as I'd ruled out BMW for personal reasons, ruled out Mercedes until such time as they are able to properly design a car again, ruled out Lexus for being either too small or because I'm too young.  So that kinda left Jag or a hideous looking Datsun clone ;D
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Re: 2017 Reliability - Small Cars & by brand
« Reply #17 on: 02 January 2018, 16:54:39 »

Rover, pre BMW, were the first major manufacturer to start doing proper analysis of warranty claims. In the BMW era, that eventually worked its way into LR (and clear benefits seen by the hugely improved reliability of the L322 over the P38), and when LR was sold to PAG, that mentality crossed over into Jag (and other PAG brands except Volvo (a law unto themselves - a reason I'd never have a Volvo), such as the 2008 Mundano).  The improvements to reliability started to show in the 2007 X358 XJ, and others launched post that time, such as the 2010 X351 XJ, the mid facelifted XF from 2011, and the newer XE, new XF etc.

Granted, the F-type suffered "thermal events" pre launch...   ...very similar to the "thermal events" of a very soon to be released car beginning with M  :-X
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Re: 2017 Reliability - Small Cars & by brand
« Reply #18 on: 02 January 2018, 17:27:46 »

I'm unfamiliar with the Toyota range; should the day arrive when my beloved Omega dies, what is their equivalent to my 2.6 petrol automatic, preferably estate, and as gutsy? Suggestions please.....

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Re: 2017 Reliability - Small Cars & by brand
« Reply #19 on: 02 January 2018, 17:43:17 »

I'm unfamiliar with the Toyota range; should the day arrive when my beloved Omega dies, what is their equivalent to my 2.6 petrol automatic, preferably estate, and as gutsy? Suggestions please.....

Ron.

Here you go Ron, a nice little Toyota Avensis estate.  Dull as dish water, but it's probably got plenty of life left in it, if all you want is something to get around in.  ;)  One lady owner..... Maureen.....  ;D

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOYOTA-AVENSIS-T4-2-2-D4D-DIESEL-ESTATE-FULL-SERVICE-HISTORY-AUGUST-2018-MOT/182951014449?hash=item2a98baf031:g:Kq0AAOSwdx1aKXon
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Re: 2017 Reliability - Small Cars & by brand
« Reply #20 on: 02 January 2018, 17:44:33 »

I'm unfamiliar with the Toyota range; should the day arrive when my beloved Omega dies, what is their equivalent to my 2.6 petrol automatic, preferably estate, and as gutsy? Suggestions please.....

Ron.
Merc E class is the first that springs to mind. But you'd have to be mental, unless you needed that load carrying.

Nowadays, it will otherwise have to be one of those gay crossovers.
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Re: 2017 Reliability - Small Cars & by brand
« Reply #21 on: 02 January 2018, 17:45:36 »

I'm unfamiliar with the Toyota range; should the day arrive when my beloved Omega dies, what is their equivalent to my 2.6 petrol automatic, preferably estate, and as gutsy? Suggestions please.....

Ron.

Here you go Ron, a nice little Toyota Avensis estate.  Dull as dish water, but it's probably got plenty of life left in it, if all you want is something to get around in.  ;)  One lady owner..... Maureen.....  ;D

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOYOTA-AVENSIS-T4-2-2-D4D-DIESEL-ESTATE-FULL-SERVICE-HISTORY-AUGUST-2018-MOT/182951014449?hash=item2a98baf031:g:Kq0AAOSwdx1aKXon
Ooooo, 144k Toyota diesel, that's gonna hurt the wallet.
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Re: 2017 Reliability - Small Cars & by brand
« Reply #22 on: 02 January 2018, 17:49:56 »

You always look on the bright side.  :D ;D
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Re: 2017 Reliability - Small Cars & by brand
« Reply #23 on: 02 January 2018, 17:59:50 »

Whereas my Omega leaves my wallet full to overflowing, TB?  ::)

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Re: 2017 Reliability - Small Cars & by brand
« Reply #24 on: 02 January 2018, 18:02:51 »

You always look on the bright side.  :D ;D
Sorry, too many close to me have been burnt by Toyota d4d engines.
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Re: 2017 Reliability - Small Cars & by brand
« Reply #25 on: 02 January 2018, 18:04:22 »

Whereas my Omega leaves my wallet full to overflowing, TB?  ::)

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In the 14.5yrs I owned my beloved Silver Bullet, I would have to say that fuel aside, it was one of the cheapest cars to run that I've owned.  Add in depreciation, even including fuel, it was the cheapest...
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Re: 2017 Reliability - Small Cars & by brand
« Reply #26 on: 02 January 2018, 18:30:48 »

Ok, maybe I was being a little harsh there; it is a 17 year old car now and I've owned it for the last ten of them. But for the help of OOF members and the Saintly Serek, it would have been bean tins long ago, though, so many thanks, gents, for keeping it alive.
It would be nice not to have to keep giving it presents and TLC, though!

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Re: 2017 Reliability - Small Cars & by brand
« Reply #27 on: 02 January 2018, 19:54:41 »

Eldest daughter is on her 2nd Aygo[petrol]and loves them,but in fairness it does suit her short town hop driving.Son-in-law[her husband]is on his 2nd Auris hybrid and loves those :o Other son-in-law had an Ultima[?]diesel-import version of Previa anyway-that thing was a total pile of cack!I once had a late '70's[I think]2L Cressida saloon,I think that was built of rust and body filler ;D it was pretty comfy,had a reasonable turn of speed for what it was and mechanically it just wouldn't die,but it was so,so boring to drive it had no "soul" :-[
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Re: 2017 Reliability - Small Cars & by brand
« Reply #28 on: 03 January 2018, 08:16:55 »

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The dry clutch ones on the smaller engines are utter wank, .......

That's the Powershitshift isn't it?

It is indeed, even the wet clutch ones need regular fluid changes to keep them going.  :-[
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Re: 2017 Reliability - Small Cars & by brand
« Reply #29 on: 03 January 2018, 08:24:18 »

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The dry clutch ones on the smaller engines are utter wank, .......

That's the Powershitshift isn't it?

It is indeed, even the wet clutch ones need regular fluid changes t keep them going.  :-[

So is the fabled VW DSG actually any better? The only one I've driven years ago was in a Passat, & it didn't do anything for me ..... and I drive a Smart Fortwo to work every day   ::)

I'd be reluctant to tow anything substantial with any automated manual.
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