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[Lizzie Zoom]

Today Range Rover Jaguar are to announced a huge investment of hundreds of millions of pounds in building their cars in electric form:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48875406

Opti will be still able to buy a Jag for hopefully many years to come 

2040 is a long time away, but I feel sure the commercial sector will be doubling their efforts to meet the new challenges of going electric, and the Government will have to respond to fully aid this process - once Brexit is out of the way!

Do not forget the railways went from 125 miles in 1830 to over 10,000 miles in 1860, and that involved massive engineering with simple tools and brut force. So the project to electrify our vehicles with all the technology, developing fast, and create the infrastructure required within the next 21 years is more than possible.

The revolution has already started, and for our young it will be a reality and they will laugh at us and our internal combustion engines

[aaronjb]

The revolution has already started, and for our young it will be a reality and they will laugh at us and our internal combustion engines

And we can laugh at them for everything they are missing out on (heart, soul, passion, noise, smell, involvement) while they stare at however they consume electronic media by then as the world crumbles around them.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Exactly. 

[2boxerdogs]

Absolutely I've 4 grandsons ranging in age from 15 down to 7 all have been out for a " spirited" ride in my Merc & they loved the noise & the seemingless endless amount of acceleration a  V8 gives, you can keep your awful looking Teslas boring & soulless, or any other electric offerings.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Today Range Rover Jaguar are to announced a huge investment of hundreds of millions of pounds in building their cars in electric form:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48875406

Opti will be still able to buy a Jag for hopefully many years to come 

2040 is a long time away, but I feel sure the commercial sector will be doubling their efforts to meet the new challenges of going electric, and the Government will have to respond to fully aid this process - once Brexit is out of the way!

Do not forget the railways went from 125 miles in 1830 to over 10,000 miles in 1860, and that involved massive engineering with simple tools and brut force. So the project to electrify our vehicles with all the technology, developing fast, and create the infrastructure required within the next 21 years is more than possible.

The revolution has already started, and for our young it will be a reality and they will laugh at us and our internal combustion engines

Yes......things can move on very quickly once a direction of travel is decided upon.

I recently read that only 10 years ago renewable energy contributed to only 1% of our energy needs. So almost insignificant.

A decade on the figure is around 20% and rising. Use of coal is now almost zero.

[Lizzie Zoom]

The revolution has already started, and for our young it will be a reality and they will laugh at us and our internal combustion engines

And we can laugh at them for everything they are missing out on (heart, soul, passion, noise, smell, involvement) while they stare at however they consume electronic media by then as the world crumbles around them.

Just like those who cherished the horse mocked those who believed in the new fangled steam engine, then car.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Today Range Rover Jaguar are to announced a huge investment of hundreds of millions of pounds in building their cars in electric form:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48875406

Opti will be still able to buy a Jag for hopefully many years to come 

2040 is a long time away, but I feel sure the commercial sector will be doubling their efforts to meet the new challenges of going electric, and the Government will have to respond to fully aid this process - once Brexit is out of the way!

Do not forget the railways went from 125 miles in 1830 to over 10,000 miles in 1860, and that involved massive engineering with simple tools and brut force. So the project to electrify our vehicles with all the technology, developing fast, and create the infrastructure required within the next 21 years is more than possible.

The revolution has already started, and for our young it will be a reality and they will laugh at us and our internal combustion engines

Yes......things can move on very quickly once a direction of travel is decided upon.

I recently read that only 10 years ago renewable energy contributed to only 1% of our energy needs. So almost insignificant.

A decade on the figure is around 20% and rising. Use of coal is now almost zero.

Exactly, and that is how the human race advances does it not.  Nothing stays the same as we all want to evolve, although when I am swearing at the IT stuff that does not work as it should for me, I HATE it!!

The young take over from the old, in both human and technological terms.  We cannot stop it.

As I stated elsewhere, all the challenges we face now with electric generation, electric storage, and electric distribution, will be resolved due to man's creativity and desire to win!

I have loved being on the footplate of many a steam railway engine, but I have loved the thrill of driving a full blooded internal combustion engined car.  The future generations will occasionally, no doubt, have the pleasure of both those things, but still love their Tesla automatically zooming them at tremendously high speeds in complete, and utter silence, with traffic management systems that have eradicated being stuck for hours in many mile traffic jams; oh, yes, don't we enjoy them, NOT!!

 

[Varche]

Your last para.

Cars automatically zooming along at high speeds with traffic management systems eliminating traffic jams . My paraphrase.

Your faith in computing is amazing. My prediction is slower travel speeds, even more congestion due to no policies limiting growth in car ownership or building new road capacity and regular monumental standstills caused by a variety of unforeseen issues. Things like Blue screen of death, incompatible operating systems or enterprising indviduals modding their own car operating system with illegal lane priority, speed limiter overide

[Doctor Gollum]

At least you can eat the horse when it breaks down

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

At least you can eat the horse when it breaks down

.....and boil  up it's bones  to make glue.

Waste not want not.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Your last para.

Cars automatically zooming along at high speeds with traffic management systems eliminating traffic jams . My paraphrase.

Your faith in computing is amazing. My prediction is slower travel speeds, even more congestion due to no policies limiting growth in car ownership or building new road capacity and regular monumental standstills caused by a variety of unforeseen issues. Things like Blue screen of death, incompatible operating systems or enterprising individuals modding their own car operating system with illegal lane priority, speed limiter overide

We shall see.  Time will tell what will happen in 30 years time.

The railways advanced human travel speeds in the past and I personally still favour their great potential to do more in the future.  More people, and GOODS travelling on the railways will reduce the demand on the roads that, yes, MUST be developed to accommodate the new forms of 'motor' transport, so that these forms of transportation TOGETHER can make the movement of humans far more efficient in the coming age. But, yes again, it will take the will of the Government / the people to make it happen. 

After Brexit the government, who ever that is, must really get down to business to plan new transport policy to ensure whatever advantages the new British age can deliver, we enjoy them!

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Your last para.

Cars automatically zooming along at high speeds with traffic management systems eliminating traffic jams . My paraphrase.

Your faith in computing is amazing. My prediction is slower travel speeds, even more congestion due to no policies limiting growth in car ownership or building new road capacity and regular monumental standstills caused by a variety of unforeseen issues. Things like Blue screen of death, incompatible operating systems or enterprising individuals modding their own car operating system with illegal lane priority, speed limiter overide

We shall see.  Time will tell what will happen in 30 years time.

The railways advanced human travel speeds in the past and I personally still favour their great potential to do more in the future.  More people, and GOODS travelling on the railways will reduce the demand on the roads that, yes, MUST be developed to accommodate the new forms of 'motor' transport, so that these forms of transportation TOGETHER can make the movement of humans far more efficient in the coming age. But, yes again, it will take the will of the Government / the people to make it happen. 

After Brexit the government, who ever that is, must really get down to business to plan new transport policy to ensure whatever advantages the new British age can deliver, we enjoy them!

Elon Musk reckons his company will put a man on Mars by 2025........decades before NASA. Wishful thinking most likely.

Teleportation should solve excessive amounts of traffic on the roads.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Your last para.

Cars automatically zooming along at high speeds with traffic management systems eliminating traffic jams . My paraphrase.

Your faith in computing is amazing. My prediction is slower travel speeds, even more congestion due to no policies limiting growth in car ownership or building new road capacity and regular monumental standstills caused by a variety of unforeseen issues. Things like Blue screen of death, incompatible operating systems or enterprising individuals modding their own car operating system with illegal lane priority, speed limiter overide

We shall see.  Time will tell what will happen in 30 years time.

The railways advanced human travel speeds in the past and I personally still favour their great potential to do more in the future.  More people, and GOODS travelling on the railways will reduce the demand on the roads that, yes, MUST be developed to accommodate the new forms of 'motor' transport, so that these forms of transportation TOGETHER can make the movement of humans far more efficient in the coming age. But, yes again, it will take the will of the Government / the people to make it happen. 

After Brexit the government, who ever that is, must really get down to business to plan new transport policy to ensure whatever advantages the new British age can deliver, we enjoy them!

Elon Musk reckons his company will put a man on Mars by 2025........decades before NASA. Wishful thinking most likely.

Teleportation should solve excessive amounts of traffic on the roads.

It is private capital and commercial enterprise that have advanced the technology of man, from the ships that traded across the oceans, trains that transversed the lands, aircraft that fly the World, and road transport that traverses the counties of the World.  Government never have been masters of progress, and that is one reason why the Soviet Union collapsed into a state of mediocrity and obsolescence.   It is individuals and companies of capitalism that have done that.

The one exception may be during wars, but it has still been the creativity of individuals and companies that have finally developed the fighting machines and the logistics of conflict.  

[Bigron]

Teleportation should solve excessive amounts of traffic on the roads.
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IF teleportation should ever become possible, consider what might happen if there were multiple receivers providing several copies of whatever was transmitted.....many duplicates of Boris, for example!
OR, as many copies of Diana Rigg as you could dream of?

Ron.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Teleportation should solve excessive amounts of traffic on the roads.

IF teleportation should ever become possible, consider what might happen if there were multiple receivers providing several copies of whatever was transmitted.....many duplicates of Boris, for example!
OR, as many copies of Diana Rigg as you could dream of?

Ron.
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You'd want the 1965 version........plus the Elan.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Just make sure that before you hit the Send button in your teleporter, that there are no flies with you in the chamber! 

[VXL V6]

Teleportation should solve excessive amounts of traffic on the roads.

Just as long as there isn't a fly in the machine when you step inside.

[Bigron]

Echo chamber? 

Ron.

[VXL V6]

The revolution has already started, and for our young it will be a reality and they will laugh at us and our internal combustion engines

And we can laugh at them for everything they are missing out on (heart, soul, passion, noise, smell, involvement) while they stare at however they consume electronic media by then as the world crumbles around them.

Just like those who cherished the horse mocked those who believed in the new fangled steam engine, then car.

Yes and when all the control systems are all brought down through various hacks and the World collapses into chaos i'll be fine to get around on my horse (*). Also, during the Cold War period some steam trains were stored for potential  use if the balloon went up, as long as some tracks existed you only needed something that would burn to throw in the firebox...

(*) I may need a different horse by then! 

[Lizzie Zoom]

The revolution has already started, and for our young it will be a reality and they will laugh at us and our internal combustion engines

And we can laugh at them for everything they are missing out on (heart, soul, passion, noise, smell, involvement) while they stare at however they consume electronic media by then as the world crumbles around them.

Just like those who cherished the horse mocked those who believed in the new fangled steam engine, then car.

Yes and when all the control systems are all brought down through various hacks and the World collapses into chaos i'll be fine to get around on my horse (*). Also, during the Cold War period some steam trains were stored for potential  use if the balloon went up, as long as some tracks existed you only needed something that would burn to throw in the firebox...

(*) I may need a different horse by then! 

Ah, that story

As a railway enthusiast I am aware of the stories back then about British steam engines, probably 9F's, being stored at some secret army location. At the time different "reports" hinted on tunnels, or massive sheds, being used to store them. Later it was proved to be an absolute myth, and that "dump" never existed, as the railway community could trace every steam locomotive ever built, through it's in service period, to eventual disposal, usually to scrap yards.

In fact if normal diesel locomotives could not do whatever was necessary, the steam engines already, and then still coming into use, on preserved railway lines would have provided the back up needed.  In reality though, steam engines with all their running requirements and maintenance schedules, would never have been able to provide any real assistance to a country decimated by nuclear conflict.

The enthusiast community loved those stories though, and it occupied many feet of railway publications pages with us all wondering what loco's could possibly be stored, and arguments taking place about the suitability of each class!