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Re: home servicing, sorry ill rant here now
« Reply #15 on: 01 September 2009, 11:17:45 »

My old man taught me a load from a very young age. Had my first Mini when I was seven, second when I was 11 and third when I was 14. Learn't to drive, service and repair them.

Became an apprentice mechanic from the day i left school, did it for 4 years and hated every single second of it. Cold, wet, grazed knuckles, never being able to get properly clean, always always smelling of oil. What a crappy excistence that was!!!!

Has put me off working on cars forever, but by the same token, I won't let anyone touch my car other than me.

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Re: home servicing, sorry ill rant here now
« Reply #16 on: 01 September 2009, 15:07:53 »

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diagnostics are greatest monopoly rip off ever invented,
Too right they are.

Any single piece of software you may (or may not) need is already on the net, the only slight drawback is you need to spend a few £'s on making the interface between car & laptop (and believe me, it really is only a few £'s).
Fortunately, unless you own a 2.2 or around 50% of 2.5TD, the interface is dead cheap.  For 2.6/3.2, interface is 2 legs. For 2.0/2.5/3.0, a paperclip :D
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Re: home servicing, sorry ill rant here now
« Reply #17 on: 03 September 2009, 05:07:25 »

 thought so, all here cause we never stop learning. i bought a cheap code reader of ebay, does codes, turns off light, displays live data eg lambda, rpm, spark advance, temp, mass air reading, bank 1, bank 2 etc £49. works a treat. now i can get on with the big drivable computer. it just frustrates me, as i couldnt have this car or others in the past if i didnt do it all myself. and now people buy new cars have them serviced at about 21 years old. i must be in the wrong job, but still i am relativley debt free, so in a few years we may see them driving the same old clapped out stuff i did, because the bill got to big! and i did the same with computers and god knows how may other things. there must be a subject that can be taught in schools, perhaps a 'how to adapt and improve' subject. would set you up for life, oh sorry thats what is already being done. my spelling etc isn't great but gets me by, same as my mechanics.
...ok i think thats it. might be one to do a pole on , self taught. profensional taught, father taught, other taught, learned from aliens, learned from being hit in the wallet, will never learn, etc. ill go in the last, cos i never learn!
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Re: home servicing, sorry ill rant here now
« Reply #18 on: 06 September 2009, 20:01:40 »

if a stealer wants a 100£ for an oil change and you can do it yourself for 20£ its a no brainer and a good kerry oot with the money saved
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Re: home servicing, sorry ill rant here now
« Reply #19 on: 07 September 2009, 21:39:31 »

i work for a dealer & even i think its ridiculous!!!
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Re: home servicing, sorry ill rant here now
« Reply #20 on: 09 September 2009, 22:52:02 »

kerry oot? i ussume is drinks. but if im wrong and kerry isnt willing, well you see my point.
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Re: home servicing, sorry ill rant here now
« Reply #21 on: 10 September 2009, 07:50:56 »

i left school and went into a garage to build lorrys and paint and panel beatso all the stuff i no is from there
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Re: home servicing, sorry ill rant here now
« Reply #22 on: 10 September 2009, 07:58:46 »

my older brother went into the trade, from him i learnt the basics, then a bit of self tuition. then i went to a citroen dealership for 5 years. enjoyed every minute. still do a bit as & when poss.  :y
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Re: home servicing, sorry ill rant here now
« Reply #23 on: 10 September 2009, 17:37:15 »

Learnt lots from my Dad and Grandad. Built on it by tinkering with most of the cars I've had. It's all very similar.

Just the special tools can be hard to hire/buy/borrow sometimes.

Reading and google-ing everything helps.....knowledge is power as they say!!!
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Re: home servicing, sorry ill rant here now
« Reply #24 on: 10 September 2009, 22:07:52 »

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then i went to a citroen dealership for 5 years. enjoyed every minute. still do a bit as & when poss.  :y
When you can work on a Clitroen, you can work on anything!
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« Reply #25 on: 10 September 2009, 23:03:46 »

u all sound very knowledgable and self taught. i open the bonnet and to be honest other than the water bottle its a mystery. how can u mess and learn when u dont even know what the different bits are ;D ;D
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Re: home servicing, sorry ill rant here now
« Reply #26 on: 10 September 2009, 23:34:05 »

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then i went to a citroen dealership for 5 years. enjoyed every minute. still do a bit as & when poss.  :y
When you can work on a Clitroen, you can work on anything!
dont spose you are far wrong on that kw.  ;)
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Re: home servicing, sorry ill rant here now
« Reply #27 on: 12 September 2009, 00:10:01 »

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u all sound very knowledgeable and self taught. i open the bonnet and to be honest other than the water bottle its a mystery. how can u mess and learn when u dont even know what the different bits are ;D ;D


In a nutshell....an engine needs fuel, air and ignition.
Petrol need a spark to ignite the mix
Diesel work on combustion...squeeze the mix until it goes bang!!

Its a case usually of just trying to be logical and methodical.

I've found while on various training driving/riding courses it makes a huge difference if you know what mechanically happens to the vehicle you are controlling when you brake or steer or accelerate etc

Its only as difficult as you want to make it.
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Re: home servicing, sorry ill rant here now
« Reply #28 on: 12 September 2009, 00:17:56 »

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u all sound very knowledgeable and self taught. i open the bonnet and to be honest other than the water bottle its a mystery. how can u mess and learn when u dont even know what the different bits are ;D ;D


In a nutshell....an engine needs fuel, air and ignition.
Petrol need a spark to ignite the mix
Diesel work on combustion...squeeze the mix until it goes bang!!

Its a case usually of just trying to be logical and methodical.

I've found while on various training driving/riding courses it makes a huge difference if you know what mechanically happens to the vehicle you are controlling when you brake or steer or accelerate etc

Its only as difficult as you want to make it.

Absolutely, an old deer at my work was asking me how her corsa engine works.

I explained the entire combustion cycle to her.
Blank expression.
I then simplified it to; Induction, Compression, Ignition, Exhaust.
Still the vacant look remained.
Suck, Squeeze, Bang, Blow. I said
She gave me a horrified look, then the penny dropped.

Oh, I understand now!

It's as complicated as you make it.
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Re: home servicing, sorry ill rant here now
« Reply #29 on: 12 September 2009, 02:44:28 »

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thought after posting in the end of a solved thread, how many people were taught to maintain a car by their father? or done a coarse?  my father taught me with motor bikes, cars etc. also hes had to put up with the advent of electronic ignition and the like of egr valves hes still doing it now and never fails. i will attempt anything, engine rebuilds, the lot. all because i was shown the basics of what is possible. how does a young couple on average wages afford to take two cars to the garage everytime it needs servicing or gets a problem? we cant, i maintain the lot but the other half changes bulbs and knows when somethings not right. this will be passed down(if willing to learn), but is it too late is home servicing etc already lost?

My dad was a loser, but thankfully my grandad, with a strong engineering background, showed me the basics from an early age.

He mainly designed aircraft components, but still maintained his own vehicles.

I just built on what he taught and showed me, and I am a mixture of self taught, family taught, and bits I've picked up along the way, EG from forum members.


I couldn't afford garage bills - I will always promote home servicing  :y
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