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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Andy A on 26 March 2019, 10:27:13

Title: Idler Arm part number?
Post by: Andy A on 26 March 2019, 10:27:13
There doesn't seem to be a part number on my idler arm, only GM12 SRD2. The number could be round the other side. Is this the correct part number 9195731 for my Omega 2.2i 2003 idler arm?

I put this part number in bay and it shows it for a Carlton. I think there might be 2 sizes. 

Phoned Vauxhall and they have just said the part is now obsolete.

Thanks

Title: Re: Idler Arm part number?
Post by: Andy A on 26 March 2019, 11:08:32
Anyone using the Febi Bilstein idler arm and how long do they last?

I  want to keep the car for many years to come if possible.

Thanks
Title: Re: Idler Arm part number?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 26 March 2019, 11:25:01
Have a look towards the US for an AC Delco one :y
Title: Re: Idler Arm part number?
Post by: Andy A on 26 March 2019, 12:11:49
Have a look towards the US for an AC Delco one :y

Not finding anything on the Bay with or without the P/N?
Title: Re: Idler Arm part number?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 26 March 2019, 12:44:54
Have a look towards the US for an AC Delco one :y

Not finding anything on the Bay with or without the P/N?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Steering-Idler-Arm-fits-1997-2001-Cadillac-Catera-MEVOTECH-LP-/132795472267?_ul=GB
Title: Re: Idler Arm part number?
Post by: Andy A on 26 March 2019, 17:49:33
Have a look towards the US for an AC Delco one :y

Not finding anything on the Bay with or without the P/N?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Steering-Idler-Arm-fits-1997-2001-Cadillac-Catera-MEVOTECH-LP-/132795472267?_ul=GB

How do you find these things. Thanks  :y
Title: Re: Idler Arm part number?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 26 March 2019, 18:30:37
I have instant access to a global database of most everything  :D
Title: Re: Idler Arm part number?
Post by: TheBoy on 26 March 2019, 19:10:26
Vauxhall/Opel are no longer able to supply them in Europe.

Trying to remember what brand Autovaux once sent me (under their usual guise of "genuine") which lasted about 4 months. Might have been Febi.

The last Lemforder I had (from AGP) lasted about 18 months.


If anyone knows of a brand that does last, I'm all ears...
Title: Re: Idler Arm part number?
Post by: dave the builder on 26 March 2019, 19:31:24
didn't someone do a mod to one using bearings rather than a bush to stop wear  :-\
Title: Re: Idler Arm part number?
Post by: Andy A on 26 March 2019, 19:41:00
Just been offered a old stock ZF Idler arm for less than £50. Was told these are the original idler arm supplier. Can anyone please confirm this?
Title: Re: Idler Arm part number?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 26 March 2019, 19:42:29
If it's unused, then it has to be worth a punt :y

Also, iirc, ZF make the steering box, so it's a reasonable suggestion...
Title: Re: Idler Arm part number?
Post by: biggriffin on 26 March 2019, 20:12:28
I have instant access to a global database of most everything  :D

It's called google :)
Title: Re: Idler Arm part number?
Post by: biggriffin on 26 March 2019, 20:14:02
didn't someone do a mod to one using bearings rather than a bush to stop wear  :-\

Serek had some poly bushes from Poland, but the supply dried up. :'(
Title: Re: Idler Arm part number?
Post by: dave the builder on 26 March 2019, 20:24:18
didn't someone do a mod to one using bearings rather than a bush to stop wear  :-\

Serek had some poly bushes from Poland, but the supply dried up. :'(

I've a few gallon of chockfast orange ,IF .....

anyone going to the Brackley meet has any bummed old arms  :-\
I could prototype a mould and try a refurb
the only arm I have spare is brand new  ::)
Title: Re: Idler Arm part number?
Post by: razzo on 27 March 2019, 08:33:10
Supeflex do a range of poly leaf spring shackle bushes which can be modified to fit the idler, comes in two parts & needs to be drilled to suit the mounting. Looks ok but not fitted or tested yet  :y
Title: Re: Idler Arm part number?
Post by: Andy A on 27 March 2019, 09:03:58
Was there ever a GM part number for just the bushing on its own?
Title: Re: Idler Arm part number?
Post by: johnnydog on 27 March 2019, 09:20:56
The cap above the bush is part no 90305712, but the bush itself is part of the idler arm and not available seperately - at least from Vauxhall. Maybe it is from other suppliers, but I've no info on this.
Title: Re: Idler Arm part number?
Post by: Andy A on 27 March 2019, 09:31:40
The cap above the bush is part no 90305712, but the bush itself is part of the idler arm and not available seperately - at least from Vauxhall. Maybe it is from other suppliers, but I've no info on this.

Thanks for the other P/N.  :y
Title: Re: Idler Arm part number?
Post by: Enceladus on 27 March 2019, 15:23:47
Was there ever a GM part number for just the bushing on its own?
According to the ZF catalogue the bush is available separately from the arm as LEMFÖRDER 11602 03. AKA Boge 87-020-A. ZF made the original Pitman and idler arms for GM, likely supplied as part of a larger assembly.

There's a picture here. (https://www.autodoc.co.uk/lemforder/1243643) Which is not a recommendation, just the first result in the Google list.

I have not tried it myself. Pressing the old bush out and the new one in might pose a bit of a problem, possibly why the arm and bush are sold as an assembly.
Title: Re: Idler Arm part number?
Post by: TheBoy on 27 March 2019, 18:29:32
Just been offered a old stock ZF Idler arm for less than £50. Was told these are the original idler arm supplier. Can anyone please confirm this?
ZF were the supplier.  But as always, what they supplied GM often isn't (for either cost or contractual reasons) what is supplied to the aftermarket channel.

Lemforder are part of the ZF group, and we know their idlers don't last brilliantly.
Title: Re: Idler Arm part number?
Post by: Andy A on 28 March 2019, 11:09:56
Car has just past it's mot part test. So all good for another year. :y I won't bother with the ZF for now if they don't last long. I might send some emails out later to Powerflex ect and tell them about the forum and if they might want to make a bush for the idler arm.

Thanks all.  :y
Title: Re: Idler Arm part number?
Post by: Vega on 28 March 2019, 19:58:44
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=140267.msg1816200#msg1816200