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Re: 2013 Sat Nav Disc Upgrade?
« Reply #15 on: 07 October 2014, 18:59:25 »

To be honest, I have found it pretty good given it's age. The trick is in knowing the area you want to go to as well as the road name and making sure you have it set on the appropriate route preference ie. Prefer Motorway / Quickest / Avoid Motorway.

If you understand it's idiosyncrasies it's still a good bit of kit, such a shame that it didn't feature twin tuners to support TMC and have updated maps anymore. I have to say that when comparing the NCDC with 2011 Nav with my Tom Tom with roughly the same age maps, the NCDC is far more accurate (obviously helped by an external antenna).

I should add that I've never used an NCDC with a GID display for more than a day, as all my cars past and present have been fitted or retro-fitted with a CID which does make a big difference in terms of usability.
 
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Re: 2013 Sat Nav Disc Upgrade?
« Reply #16 on: 07 October 2014, 19:06:01 »

I quite like the GID.  That said, all mine are CID as well ;D
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Re: 2013 Sat Nav Disc Upgrade?
« Reply #17 on: 07 October 2014, 19:06:26 »

That's a lie, I forgot about the mobile storage facility, that's a GID
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Re: 2013 Sat Nav Disc Upgrade?
« Reply #18 on: 07 October 2014, 19:10:39 »

That's a lie, I forgot about the mobile storage facility, that's a GID

Yep but that goes slow enough to use a compass and sextant.
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Re: 2013 Sat Nav Disc Upgrade?
« Reply #19 on: 07 October 2014, 19:17:08 »

That's a lie, I forgot about the mobile storage facility, that's a GID

Yep but that goes slow enough to use a compass and sextant.
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Re: 2013 Sat Nav Disc Upgrade?
« Reply #20 on: 07 October 2014, 19:32:08 »

Well I got my 2010/11 disc.  For fun tried it to take me into town, then again back out.

If I had followed the disc's directions, and not used my local knowledge, I would still be searching for my destination!!  Absolutely crap!! ::) ::) ::) :( :(

It still doesn't work on post codes, and just lives up to what I think of sat navs; what a waste of time and money!! No wonder lorries end up down small country lanes and tracks! :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X

Back to what I have done for my past 1 million miles; use my brain, instinct, nose, and a little help from a hard copy map:D :D :D :y :y
It does what its supposed to do - get you to your destination. Not necessarily by the "best" route, but using an algorithm of the preferences you set.


No TB, that is the problem.  It takes me in the opposite direction of my destination; twice it said "go right" when actually I had to go left to arrive at my destination! ::) ::) ::) :P
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Re: 2013 Sat Nav Disc Upgrade?
« Reply #21 on: 07 October 2014, 19:43:52 »

Comparing a system designed and built some 15 years ago, with a system designed and built in the last few years is somewhat pointless and self defeating.

TomTom updates their maps every 3 months .. and they are still full of errors, and the algorithm still gets it wrong, but other than the delay when it loses GPS as the accelerometer side is poor, it performs as a drivers aid very well, just like the one in the Omega does.

They both have their uses, just like paper maps do, they are all advisory .. not tablets of stone to be followed without thought .... look out of the windows and read the roadsigns is a reasonable piece of advice as well .. :)
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Re: 2013 Sat Nav Disc Upgrade?
« Reply #22 on: 07 October 2014, 19:51:38 »

Well I got my 2010/11 disc.  For fun tried it to take me into town, then again back out.

If I had followed the disc's directions, and not used my local knowledge, I would still be searching for my destination!!  Absolutely crap!! ::) ::) ::) :( :(

It still doesn't work on post codes, and just lives up to what I think of sat navs; what a waste of time and money!! No wonder lorries end up down small country lanes and tracks! :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X

Back to what I have done for my past 1 million miles; use my brain, instinct, nose, and a little help from a hard copy map:D :D :D :y :y
It does what its supposed to do - get you to your destination. Not necessarily by the "best" route, but using an algorithm of the preferences you set.


No TB, that is the problem.  It takes me in the opposite direction of my destination; twice it said "go right" when actually I had to go left to arrive at my destination! ::) ::) ::) :P
Did you go Functions > Route to see how it was going to get you there?  It would get you there, just maybe not by the route you would go. Esp if the route preferences are set inappropriately.
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Re: 2013 Sat Nav Disc Upgrade?
« Reply #23 on: 08 October 2014, 09:49:38 »

I got a 2014 SatNav disc for my CarIn :) for £15 :y

Works a treat too :)
Really? I thought the last was for 2008.  Can't imagine the CARiN having the legs to run newer :o

Yes really, there is a 'new' roundabout not far from me and its only been here for around 12 months.... it directed me around it so the maps are quite current...
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Re: 2013 Sat Nav Disc Upgrade?
« Reply #24 on: 08 October 2014, 11:59:50 »

Is it genuine, if so, what is the part number :)

Navteq only list up to 2008 for CARiN units fitted to GMs
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Re: 2013 Sat Nav Disc Upgrade?
« Reply #25 on: 08 October 2014, 13:01:58 »

Well I got my 2010/11 disc.  For fun tried it to take me into town, then again back out.

If I had followed the disc's directions, and not used my local knowledge, I would still be searching for my destination!!  Absolutely crap!! ::) ::) ::) :( :(

It still doesn't work on post codes, and just lives up to what I think of sat navs; what a waste of time and money!! No wonder lorries end up down small country lanes and tracks! :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X

Back to what I have done for my past 1 million miles; use my brain, instinct, nose, and a little help from a hard copy map:D :D :D :y :y
It does what its supposed to do - get you to your destination. Not necessarily by the "best" route, but using an algorithm of the preferences you set.


No TB, that is the problem.  It takes me in the opposite direction of my destination; twice it said "go right" when actually I had to go left to arrive at my destination! ::) ::) ::) :P
Did you go Functions > Route to see how it was going to get you there?  It would get you there, just maybe not by the route you would go. Esp if the route preferences are set inappropriately.

No TB, I didn't.  I just relied on the thing to get me from A to B as programme in, but it did not.  This disc (2010/11), nor the one supplied with the car (2002/3) has yet proved to me that the system in the Omega can actually do what I can do myself.  That is go from A to B without wanting me to turn away from my destination, or, as in the case to Folkestone, sending me to the opposite side of Town than where the road name I typed in actually is!

If I cannot trust these devices with routes I know I sure will not trust it with going to a place I don't know.  It will be back to my tried and ested method every time! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;)
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Re: 2013 Sat Nav Disc Upgrade?
« Reply #26 on: 08 October 2014, 14:03:31 »

The only time I've ever used mine around Folkestone is to get near that bloody tunnel (which it did). Seeing as I will never, ever use that stupid tunnel again, I doubt I will have the opportunity to test it in that area again.

Mine dropped me at the door or my chosen destination, some hellhole in Kingston upon Thames, with no issues.
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Re: 2013 Sat Nav Disc Upgrade?
« Reply #27 on: 08 October 2014, 16:18:07 »

The only time I've ever used mine around Folkestone is to get near that bloody tunnel (which it did). Seeing as I will never, ever use that stupid tunnel again, I doubt I will have the opportunity to test it in that area again.

Mine dropped me at the door or my chosen destination, some hellhole in Kingston upon Thames, with no issues.

The Chunnel "gateway" is not actually in Folkestone TB, being just off the M20 at Junction 12A, so you wouldn't touch Folkestone itself.  If you went "around Folkestone".............well that proves my point! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)
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Re: 2013 Sat Nav Disc Upgrade?
« Reply #28 on: 08 October 2014, 16:29:50 »

I have to be honest and say the NCDC 2013 fitted to my 2003 Elite is actually very accurate ,although the map feature is somewhat dated compared to TomTom.

Done a direct route comparison with Tomtom and the VX system takes a more direct and logical route as somedays just for the hell of it I run them both and ignore 1.

Disc is 2008/9 Genuine  and since having the laser replaced works perfectly.

Not sure I would say its State Of The Art but does get you where you want and like the built in way it reduces sound from radio and gives clear audible voice commands.

Gets my thumbs up as a usefull peice of kit  :y 
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Re: 2013 Sat Nav Disc Upgrade?
« Reply #29 on: 08 October 2014, 19:01:28 »

Is it genuine, if so, what is the part number :)

Navteq only list up to 2008 for CARiN units fitted to GMs

Genuine for £15.....? No...

Please don't start faffing on about the lazers, I have 3 more CarIn brains to burn through before I get bored with it.... :)
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