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[Andy B]

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What to do? 

Unplug them both, say nothing to the old dear & then tell your mate what you've done. 

[biggriffin]

Just go round and unplug them! Job done.

[The Sheriff]

Let the local fire safety officer know of your concerns. It may just put 'Wheels in motion'.

No WIM japes please, you're not clever or funny.

[biggriffin]

Let the local fire safety officer know of your concerns. It may just put 'Wheels in motion'.

No WIM japes please, you're not clever or funny.

To expensive 

[The Sheriff]

Let the local fire safety officer know of your concerns. It may just put 'Wheels in motion'.

No WIM japes please, you're not clever or funny.

To expensive 

OK. Don't do that then.

[Kevin Wood]

If they are required to stop the plumbing freezing then either it's not adequately insulated or she's not keeping the house warm enough for her own well-being, IMHO, especially if the loft insulation is of the same vintage as the wiring - it should be allowing plenty of heat up there!

Either way - put up with the freezing pipes if necessary rather than risk a fire.

If the loft is insulated (from the house below) it should be freezing up there 

.. but it won't be if the loft insulation is the same vintage as the wiring.

[Sir Tigger KC]

So I've been talking to my mate and he's agreed that the fan heaters have to go. 

We've hatched a plan where he tells his Mum that I've said that the pipes arn't lagged properly and when he comes down next he'll bring a load of pipe insulation and will lag the pipes.  In the meantime I'll go round and measure up for him so he knows what he needs and will unplug the heaters.  We're going to play down the fire risk and he's going to rub in how much it must be costing in electricity! 

[Kevin Wood]

Sounds like a good outcome.







Now to get some hydroponics installed up there now your other factory has been rumbled.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Next time you're in Darzet Kevin, just let me know what 'spares' you need and I'll see what I can find under the floorboards for you! 

[Sir Tigger KC]

So I've been round my Mates Mum's place again this afternoon to 'check the lagging' and have unplugged the fan heaters! 

I was rubbing it in how much two 3 Kw fan heaters cost to run, she was horrified and agreed that they should be unplugged, but in the next breath said that if it gets cold she can nip up into the loft and plug them in again!  She's 84!   

So I said that there'd be no need as when my mate is next down, we're going to make sure everything is properly lagged so there will be no need for the heaters!    and anyway I went on, enough heat from the house will trickle through to keep the loft space warm enough in cold weather. 

To cut a long story short, it turns out that to save money she turns off all of the radiators apart from her bedroom and the bathroom and only turns on the full system when friends or family are round!    Even in the depths of winter!      So her loft is nice and toasty, but the rest of the house is bloody freezing!!!  Sigh!   

I've sat her down and explained that it would be much cheaper to keep the GCH on low, on cold winter nights and keep the whole house warm rather than the 2 fan heaters from which she gets no benefit.    I also casually mentioned that if she had the Fire Brigade round for a safety check they'd be horrified if they saw the fan heaters. 

We've always known that she's a bit 'frugal' with the heating, but even my mate when I spoke to him didn't realise she was that tight.      and tight is probably the right word as although like most pensioners she has to be careful, I don't believe that she is exactly poverty stricken, as she manages an annual trip to The States to see my mates brother.    I guess that's where her fuel allowance goes!   

[The Sheriff]

Sorted

Now shut up about it.

[the alarming man]

them fans must have been costing her a bit to run as they are not the cheapest to run

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

So I've been round my Mates Mum's place again this afternoon to 'check the lagging' and have unplugged the fan heaters! 

I was rubbing it in how much two 3 Kw fan heaters cost to run, she was horrified and agreed that they should be unplugged, but in the next breath said that if it gets cold she can nip up into the loft and plug them in again!  She's 84!   

So I said that there'd be no need as when my mate is next down, we're going to make sure everything is properly lagged so there will be no need for the heaters!    and anyway I went on, enough heat from the house will trickle through to keep the loft space warm enough in cold weather. 

To cut a long story short, it turns out that to save money she turns off all of the radiators apart from her bedroom and the bathroom and only turns on the full system when friends or family are round!    Even in the depths of winter!      So her loft is nice and toasty, but the rest of the house is bloody freezing!!!  Sigh!   

I've sat her down and explained that it would be much cheaper to keep the GCH on low, on cold winter nights and keep the whole house warm rather than the 2 fan heaters from which she gets no benefit.    I also casually mentioned that if she had the Fire Brigade round for a safety check they'd be horrified if they saw the fan heaters. 

We've always known that she's a bit 'frugal' with the heating, but even my mate when I spoke to him didn't realise she was that tight.      and tight is probably the right word as although like most pensioners she has to be careful, I don't believe that she is exactly poverty stricken, as she manages an annual trip to The States to see my mates brother.    I guess that's where her fuel allowance goes!   

She was 86 at the start of this thread.

Has she defeated the ageing process?

[Sir Tigger KC]

She was 86 at the start of this thread.

Has she defeated the ageing process?

Glad to see you're paying attention M'lud! 

I thought she was 86, but she told me today she's 84.  Being a Gent, I never asked!   

[05omegav6]

You smoothie, you