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[LC0112G]

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Its the law here in Spain and speed limits automatically reduced by about ten mph uk

Isn't that the same in France too 

Incredible that you need to legislate for what should be common sense

On a French AutoRoute (motorway) its generally
110Kph (68 MPH) when wet
130Kph (81 MPH) otherwise.

So the French 'wet' limit is basically the same as the UK every-day limit of 70MPH.

Given the modern electronics in todays cars I think they should automagically be speed restricted to 40MPH when the driver turns the rear fog lights on. If viz is bad enough to require rear fog lights then you shouldn't be doing more than 40MPH anyway.

[Bigron]

Unless you have the "magic eyes" of BMW drivers, which enable them to plough on regardless of weather or visibility issues! 

Ron.

[Nick W]

Given the modern electronics in todays cars I think they should automagically be speed restricted to 40MPH when the driver turns the rear fog lights on. If viz is bad enough to require rear fog lights then you shouldn't be doing more than 40MPH anyway.

agreed.


But just to reduce oppswittery even further, the rear(hell, lets include the fronts as well) foglight warning lamp should be another foglight adjusted to shine directly into the driver's eyes.


I've averaged about 30,000miles a year over the last thirty years, and I have more digits than the times I've needed foglights.

[Bigron]

Yes Nick; I think I would need to refer to the handbook to check where the foglight switcher were. The best vehicle ever for driving in fog was my Panther motorbike with sidecar - I could see over the top of the handlebar fairing clearly....

Ron.

[Nick W]

Yes Nick; I think I would need to refer to the handbook to check where the foglight switcher were. The best vehicle ever for driving in fog was my Panther motorbike with sidecar - I could see over the top of the handlebar fairing clearly....

Ron.

being a wimp, I gave up motorbikes on 11th July 1988......

[Bigron]

I want to get back on them again, but today's traffic is a lot less friendly. The first time I rode my m/c combination, nobody told me what would happen to the sidecar when I turned left - that was a fresh underwear moment! 

Ron.

[Andy B]

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I've averaged about 30,000miles a year over the last thirty years, and I have more digits than the times I've needed foglights.

Surely you needed them when there was a little early morning ground mist despite visibility being 3 miles .... 

[henryd]

I buy new each year. They go hard in the sun/heat or even fuse to the screen. For a while I had spare blades for the summer and then good ones for the winter.

You need active cruise control for your night driving. Set the gap to maximum. Simplesszs.

Active cruise control for M62 or M1? You're having a laugh.

I used to use mine in the Skoda most commutes to & from work - rush hour on the M1 & M25.. I don't in the RRS, though - it's a much older generation of system and doesn't work half as well.

Had a terrifying drive the other week in the dark, with headlamps with zero range as it was my first night drive in the car I had no idea what the lamps were like - upon arrival I realised the levelling switch was set to maximum dip! Return journey was lots nicer.

The fiancés (still getting used to that ) MINI is like that, although they are pointing roughly in the right direction (little high, maybe) the offside lamp has bugger all output despite genuine Night Breaker bulbs (which were an improvement over whatever was in there before!). You'd thing a big round lamp like that would work well.. nearside is fine, though, so maybe the offside has 'cooked' the reflector off over time.

Eventually I'll pick up a set of replacement lights .. but at £400 a pair for aftermarket upgrades or £1000 for genuine same as she has, tis a little pricey! Then again, so is stacking it in the dark, so..

Projector lights I expect,My Touareg has the same and they are shockingly poor,main beam is conventional and good,dipping the lights is like turning them off

[aaronjb]

Projector lights I expect,My Touareg has the same and they are shockingly poor,main beam is conventional and good,dipping the lights is like turning them off

Nope - they didn't move to projector lamps until the facelift and/or the HID models.. this is old fashioned Halogen with a lamp that looks a lot like the old 7" Lucas units on the kit car, just in a fancier housing..

These:




In fact, the aftermarket projector "update" lights are meant to be much better:

[TheBoy]

Or pissing it down with rain on a dark grey day. My astra switches auto lights on when you put the wipers on constant.

I think the Shag does, and also if the rain sensor has activated the wipers more than a set number of times in the previous 2 minutes....    ….which means if I try to intimidate any old grandad into doing above half the speed limit, and he uses his screen washer to show his annoyance, I automatically flash him, which makes him cross

Don't ask how I know this.

[TheBoy]

I have more digits than the times I've needed foglights.

Mine get turned on every year...

...the day before the MOT

[Nick W]

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I've averaged about 30,000miles a year over the last thirty years, and I have more digits than the times I've needed foglights.

Surely you needed them when there was a little early morning ground mist despite visibility being 3 miles .... 

So I shouldn't turn them off when there is a car close behind me? 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

This reminds me, I must find out if Airfix 1 has fog lights, and if so, where they switch on and off, before the MOT next month. My tester always allocates the job of switching everything on/ off to me. A bit embarrassing if I don't know where things are in my own car.

[Doctor Gollum]

Probably on the light stalk

The presence of fronts will be obvious from looking at it

[aaronjb]

Well it'll definitely have at least 1 rear fog .. y'know, on account of those being mandatory since .. 1960-something?

Fronts, only if you're lucky