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Author Topic: rllocks. sat in the rain awaiting greenflag.  (Read 13141 times)

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Re: rllocks. sat in the rain awaiting greenflag.
« Reply #15 on: 10 April 2013, 21:43:44 »

On the upside, petrol lines easily accessible :)

But check trims first
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Re: rllocks. sat in the rain awaiting greenflag.
« Reply #16 on: 10 April 2013, 21:50:43 »

On the upside, petrol lines easily accessible :)

But check trims first

Will do... what sort of values am I looking for ?? simply same as B2 or specific numbers ?
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Re: rllocks. sat in the rain awaiting greenflag.
« Reply #17 on: 10 April 2013, 21:51:09 »

Yeah that makes things a bit harder  :(
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Re: rllocks. sat in the rain awaiting greenflag.
« Reply #18 on: 10 April 2013, 21:57:14 »

On the upside, petrol lines easily accessible :)

But check trims first

Will do... what sort of values am I looking for ?? simply same as B2 or specific numbers ?
0%, or there abouts. You need to read these **BEFORE** you clear any codes.
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« Reply #19 on: 11 April 2013, 00:54:54 »

To remove a CP,
unplug loom
undo 2 bolts
using 2 bolts from plenum, screw these into the brass inserts in the bolt holes in cp, about 3 or 4 turns
use these bolts to help lift cp out.

but only after removing a few LPG bits that just sit in the way !!  (seriously, thanks   saves me looking it up :) )
Reckon you may need to pull plenum off to get to fuel lines - can't remember  :-[

I can get to mine (1/3/5) without touching LPG, my 2/4/6, I have to undo one bank of injectors. But obviously all LPG installs vary

Not a help here, but its something to consider on the V6 install. On the 2.2, injectors only get in the way of a cam cover change

Tunnie, when the time comes, Doz borrowed my templates for making suitable brackets for the lpg injectors.

One side uses the cable tray bolts, tother uses the bolts that hold the fuel rail to the inlet manifold, keeping the plenum clear :y designed for the injectors in your first link in tother thread, but plain enough to be adaptable  :y
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Re: rllocks. sat in the rain awaiting greenflag.
« Reply #20 on: 11 April 2013, 09:07:27 »

On the upside, petrol lines easily accessible :)

But check trims first

Will do... what sort of values am I looking for ?? simply same as B2 or specific numbers ?
0%, or there abouts. You need to read these **BEFORE** you clear any codes.

B1 - 0.06%
B2 - 0.04%

But I now remember resetting the codes at the roadside when it first started .. :( before calling greenflag. Car has been started about 5 times and driven less than 50 yards in total since then.

Codes this morning after a reset and within 3 minutes -  0300, 0305 EML on

Plug wells absolutely bone dry - no oil or water







Sorry for the poor quality of the pics .. I'll find a real camera and try harder !!

Plugs have done 54000.

Is there any way of checking the CP other than replacement ?? or am I driving to swidnod and flashing by ABS card at the stealers ??  :)
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Re: rllocks. sat in the rain awaiting greenflag.
« Reply #21 on: 11 April 2013, 09:50:39 »

1/3/5 dead easy. Fuel lines off, then you have full access.

Can be done without disturbing fuel lines on 3.2 . ;)
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Re: rllocks. sat in the rain awaiting greenflag.
« Reply #22 on: 11 April 2013, 09:52:08 »

1/3/5 dead easy. Fuel lines off, then you have full access.

Can be done without disturbing fuel lines on 3.2 . ;)

looking at it .... possibly .. but as I had to take off the LPG bits two big nuts for the fuel lines was not a big extra ...  :)
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Re: rllocks. sat in the rain awaiting greenflag.
« Reply #23 on: 11 April 2013, 09:55:30 »

When I replaced the 246 CP a few weeks ago I changed the plugs in there as well.  Decided to do the plugs on the 135 whilst spanners out.  Can take the CP out easily without depressurising the petrol line.  Pretty much a 10 min job to change the 3 plugs that side, unlike the 246.  Your LPG would make a difference though.

Any rust or crud buildup where the three plug stalks meet with the base?  Cracks/tracking evident where the pack might be breaking down?
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Re: rllocks. sat in the rain awaiting greenflag.
« Reply #24 on: 11 April 2013, 10:03:25 »

When I replaced the 246 CP a few weeks ago I changed the plugs in there as well.  Decided to do the plugs on the 135 whilst spanners out.  Can take the CP out easily without depressurising the petrol line.  Pretty much a 10 min job to change the 3 plugs that side, unlike the 246.  Your LPG would make a difference though.

Any rust or crud buildup where the three plug stalks meet with the base?  Cracks/tracking evident where the pack might be breaking down?

Now you've asked, and I've looked ... the central one (#3) has a definite crack in the oblong base on both the long sides ... I'll get the camera back out !! - better photos hopefully ...






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Re: rllocks. sat in the rain awaiting greenflag.
« Reply #25 on: 11 April 2013, 10:07:48 »

Closeups as stated .. :(






Guess I'm driving the clit to swidnod .... :(

Now  do I buy one for t'other side as well .. and get the job done all at once ??
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« Reply #26 on: 11 April 2013, 10:12:08 »

No direct experience of such things but would 'think' that a possible source of short/breakdown.  If the plastic/bakealite is like that externally may well be further probs inside.  A CP is about 120 notes (cant find the receipt from andyC at the moment, memory is shot these days) so cant confirm.

I put new plugs in as well and, on recommendation of MarksDTM, used twin cores rather than quads.
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Re: rllocks. sat in the rain awaiting greenflag.
« Reply #27 on: 11 April 2013, 10:15:02 »

mmmm I'm thinking that as I'm off to french France next week, and again in July, an extra £120 notes to do both sides might be worth it inn the long term .. they've both been in there many years and 125000 miles, and I'm not about to pull the 2/4/6 bank just to look .. if I go in there its a new CP and plugs ......
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Re: rllocks. sat in the rain awaiting greenflag.
« Reply #28 on: 11 April 2013, 10:20:47 »

Plugs have done 54000.

Obviously worth checking them while you're at it, and change them anyway. It could be that you've got a dodgy one after that mileage, or that it's worked loose.
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Re: rllocks. sat in the rain awaiting greenflag.
« Reply #29 on: 11 April 2013, 10:34:20 »

£94 ish + vat on TC ..not in stock .. so ordered both I'll spend an hour taking the 2/4/6 one out and fit new plugs and new coil packs tomorrow ... deep joy .. :(
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