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[smokingomega]

Thanks for the advise.
Think I`ll try flushing mine out.
Is it not normal for them to go that high when towing a 1.3 ton caravan up a hill?
Mine has always done it thats all since I bought it 3 years ago. only tow about 3 times a year.
on normal everyday running the temp stays pretty much the same level

[TheBoy]

Thanks for the advise.
Think I`ll try flushing mine out.
Is it not normal for them to go that high when towing a 1.3 ton caravan up a hill?
Mine has always done it thats all since I bought it 3 years ago. only tow about 3 times a year.
on normal everyday running the temp stays pretty much the same level

no idea - i've never been daft enough to own a caravan

certainly, i'd be very concerned above 100c on the gauge at any point

[Spearmint]

I still have this snag so when I got back from work I had a quick look under the bonnet. Now as it's running hot, after a journey, the electric fans are heard to kick in. So, looking under and through I noticed only one was operating. After the fans stopped (and with the engine off of course!) I had a quick poke about with my keys to find the drivers side electric fan is seized.

Could this be the cause of my running temps?

Is it a bumper off job to change?

[TheBoy]

I still have this snag so when I got back from work I had a quick look under the bonnet. Now as it's running hot, after a journey, the electric fans are heard to kick in. So, looking under and through I noticed only one was operating. After the fans stopped (and with the engine off of course!) I had a quick poke about with my keys to find the drivers side electric fan is seized.

Could this be the cause of my running temps?

Is it a bumper off job to change?

Might not help.

If you can't free yours off, and you pass Brackley, think I have a spare TD one in garage.


As you can imagine, rad out, possibly a/c condenser as well (doubt you be able to make enough room to slide it out)

[Omegatoy]

?? fans are only sat there not bolted to rads, whip bumper off and they should fall out easily would have thought?
maybe wrong as i only had mine out when i was checking rad!!

the obvious and really only true way to determine what your cars running temp is, is to tech 2 it live data and see what the actual temp is cos the gauges just gordon brown you all the time!!

[smokingomega]

Are the gauges really that bad?
Do they usually read higher than the actual temp or lower?

[TheBoy]

?? fans are only sat there not bolted to rads, whip bumper off and they should fall out easily would have thought?
maybe wrong as i only had mine out when i was checking rad!!

the obvious and really only true way to determine what your cars running temp is, is to tech 2 it live data and see what the actual temp is cos the gauges just gordon brown you all the time!!

Slam panel etc in way, they have to come out through engine bay

[TheBoy]

Are the gauges really that bad?
Do they usually read higher than the actual temp or lower?

The gauge reads high up until the lower marking, and low after midpoint.  The gauges are pretty consistent.

[Spearmint]

So with my constant running temps of about 95'c it's actually running at 105'c-110'c?

So that said, surely it should have blown the HG or something by now?

Wheres the sender unit for the gauge? Think I'll try swapping that.

[TheBoy]

So with my constant running temps of about 95'c it's actually running at 105'c-110'c?

So that said, surely it should have blown the HG or something by now?

Wheres the sender unit for the gauge? Think I'll try swapping that.

No. Just under 95, temp (ecu and instrument) will claim to be just under 90. Just over 95, and real temp will go up dramatically, reaching 110C by time gauge hits 100C.  Its at this point things are too hot.

Sender, if you want to change it (will do jack-all) is in head (intake needs to come off).  Both engine and dash senders mounted near each other and look same, but dash one only has 1 pin when you remove connector. Soz, can't remember which way round they are - about 75% certain front one is the dash one.

[Spearmint]

Well if they'll not do anything there isn't any point in changing them. What about Tech 2 plugged into the Ecu to confirm if I'm being lied to or not by the gauge? How do I go about getting hold of one?

I can't see any more options really as I've changed pretty much everything in the system.

[Spearmint]

Even though I cleaned out the rad to the best of my knowledge could it still be Fubar inside?

It's as if the rad is just not man enough to cope with cooling the coolant down so maybe a rad change would solve the snag?

[smokingomega]

Is it better then to run the car with the viscous fan removed? even when towing?

[Spearmint]

I've not been brave enough to try that out yet. I want a fully serviceable cooling system first.

[Pitchfork]

Is it better then to run the car with the viscous fan removed? even when towing?

It's certainly a lot quieter if the Viscous as failed & is locked up!