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[takemineanywhere]

hi everyone.As above.Yesterday i drove from Swindon to Tenby picking up my girlfriend in Bristol on the way.Got there no Problems.Left car 4 hoürs .On retürning to car  started up ok but when driving goff i noticed heavy nochy steering.looked under bonnet & saw drive belt loose but not broken.Alternator not loose.. ....Eventually RAC turned up & diagnosed stuck/broken idler/tensioner.Of course he didn´t have one so its piggy back on his truck to Bristol to SWIMBOS house .Now i´m 40 miles from home with not many Tools &needing atensioner?......Rac wont take me home cos its the same Problem....Is there anyone in Bristol who can help me with this?I was thinking ROB orBROOMIES MATE as they know their stuff.Should i pm them?Help please.......The car is Facelift 2.5TD.Thanks,Paul

[Broomies Mate]

Where abouts in Bristol are you mate?

If you can compile a list of tools needed, I'd be happy to pop over and give you a hand. 

[Gaffers]

If it's the same tensioner as the petrol V6 then all you need is a 15mm spanner and whatever you need to take off to gain access to the belt

[Shackeng]

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90622.0

I don't know if its the same tensioner but I doubt it. You will need a 32mm spanner to remove the viscous fan if fitted. See link above.

[Broomies Mate]

I've done plenty of V6 ones, never attempted one on a diesel though.

How hard can it be? 

[Shackeng]

I've done plenty of V6 ones, never attempted one on a diesel though.

How hard can it be? 

Very easy, see guide link, which was not specifically for tensioner replacement but will help.

[Broomies Mate]

I've done plenty of V6 ones, never attempted one on a diesel though.

How hard can it be? 

Very easy, see guide link, which was not specifically for tensioner replacement but will help.

Cheers - Does the Fan need to be removed then?

Other than that, just a 10mm Allen Key and 13mm Spanner by sounds of things?

[Shackeng]

As I was doing the water pump I took the fan off, but trying to visualise it, I think you might get away without. The difficulty will come in trying to get the new belt (assuming one is going on) between the fan shroud and blades. If just the tensioner is going on with the old belt as a get you home, you may get away with the fan on. Let me know if you have any problems, I have got mine on the drive and will remove the covers to check if required.

[takemineanywhere]

would be great if u could come over BM. i`m in St George Avonvale rd 78.my numbers 07714417236.have no Tools worth a shite.Paul

[Broomies Mate]

Shackeng, is this the right tensioner for the 2.5TD?

http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Vauxhall_Omega_2.5_2000/p/car-parts/engine-parts/belts-chains-and-tensioners/tensioners-idlers-and-dampers/?326110180&1&ae71c75028afe197d9056204f28d266004f3808a&000453

[Shackeng]

Hmmm, I'd have to remove mine to be certain. I'll check it against my reg, and get back to you.

[Shackeng]

Put my reg in ECP for a tensioner they say none found. That is just a bearing shown in your link, the tensioner is the whole unit with mounting. I believe it is possible to replace just the bearing, but I can't tell if that's the correct one. 

Where's RobG when you need him?

[Broomies Mate]

I'll pop up to Vauxhall now and ask them.  I have this fella's reg number.

Cheers Shackeng! 

[Shackeng]

According to my stealer, the bearing does not come seperately, but I'm not so sure, as, certainly on the V6 members have said it can be replaced. The whole tensioner part number is 9118848, and mine has none in stock, so I hope you get lucky.

[Shackeng]

I don't think that is the correct bearing on ECP, that looks very like the deflection bearing pulley that sits next to the alternator, which ECP mentions. PM inbound with my phone number.

[RobG]

http://www.totalparts.co.uk/land-rover/STC4168-BM.html

[TheBoy]

The TD tensioners sometimes stick. Its the damper looking part, about 3" long, near the top of the engine.

Might be worth removing, and working it by hand, to see if it will get you home.

**NOTE** waterpump is driven by the same aux belt. It is imperative that the car is not started/driven with a slipping belt.

[TheBoy]

Step 12 shows the tensioner:
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90622.0

[Shackeng]

http://www.totalparts.co.uk/land-rover/STC4168-BM.html

That looks very familiar.

[Broomies Mate]

The tensioner had done a flip and lost all tension on the belt. Manually moved it over by hand and it slotted into place.

Would a old belt which has stretched caused this to happen?

On gayPhone so apologise for crap messages!

P.s Vauxhall want £78 for that £19 part!

[TheBoy]

Never seen one do that, so can't comment.

If there is any chance of it potentially flipping again, I think I'd change belt anyway 

[RobG]

The tensioner had done a flip and lost all tension on the belt. Manually moved it over by hand and it slotted into place.

Would a old belt which has stretched caused this to happen?

On gayPhone so apologise for crap messages!

P.s Vauxhall want £78 for that £19 part!

If stretched enough, yes. Don`t be surprised if tensioner misaligns again

[takemineanywhere]

Many thanks to u all for the help &suggestions especially Broomie who ca me round at the drop of a hat &sorted it enough for me to get home(hopefully)What a star you are.And Rob b For the Landrover site.Now i know the parts i may Need & how to fit them.Again i cant thank you enough.cheers Paul.I`ll Keep y0u posted.

[TheBoy]

Good luck, hope journey home is uneventful

[Shackeng]

Many thanks to u all for the help &suggestions especially Broomie who ca me round at the drop of a hat &sorted it enough for me to get home(hopefully)What a star you are.And Rob b For the Landrover site.Now i know the parts i may Need & how to fit them.Again i cant thank you enough.cheers Paul.I`ll Keep y0u posted.

I would definitely fit a new belt when you replace the tensioner, and if the car still has the original water pump, with a rubbish plastic impeller, I would replace that at the same time.

[Broomies Mate]

I was nice to meet you Paul.  I must add that the information from Shackeng was invaluable.

I've never even seen under the bonnet of a TD before, and quite frankly after seeing it, the V6 is a much nicer place to be.

Paul, I hope you get home without drama.  Get that belt changed asap mate! 

[TheBoy]

I was nice to meet you Paul.  I must add that the information from Shackeng was invaluable.

I've never even seen under the bonnet of a TD before, and quite frankly after seeing it, the V6 is a much nicer place to be.

Paul, I hope you get home without drama.  Get that belt changed asap mate! 

Reckon thats just familiarity. The TD engine bay isn't a bad place to be to be honest, just like the V6, looks scary to those not familiar with it

[Shackeng]

If you need any local assistance, you can always pop over here for my, albeit limited, advice.

[Shackeng]

I would like to add my thanks to BM who jumped in immediately to help a stranded OOF member. OOF at its best, well done Ron. I hope he got home alright.

[Broomies Mate]

Reckon thats just familiarity. The TD engine bay isn't a bad place to be to be honest, just like the V6, looks scary to those not familiar with it

You are probably right.  But the Derv is a very dirty thing to work on (I hasten to add that the bay on Paul's car was very clean).

My ONLY experience with Diesel engines is working on Transit Vans.  I hate Derv with a passion.

Did I mention I hate Derv?

[Broomies Mate]

I would like to add my thanks to BM who jumped in immediately to help a stranded OOF member. OOF at its best, well done Ron. I hope he got home alright.

Thanks Shackeng.... All in a days work! 

I was unable to help Paul to get his car 'fixed' but I did what I could to help him diagnose the true fault and hopefully get him on his way.


TB posted a link to a part which may be required @ less than 25% the cost of Vauxhall...... others have offered advice on what the problem may be and ways to fix it.....  That's the spirit of OOF and hopefully, long may it continue.

[PhilRich]

Well Done to all concerned! At its best this place really is something special

[Toledodude1973]

Totally agree Phil 

[TheBoy]

I would like to add my thanks to BM who jumped in immediately to help a stranded OOF member. OOF at its best, well done Ron. I hope he got home alright.

Thanks Shackeng.... All in a days work! 

I was unable to help Paul to get his car 'fixed' but I did what I could to help him diagnose the true fault and hopefully get him on his way.


TB posted a link to a part which may be required @ less than 25% the cost of Vauxhall...... others have offered advice on what the problem may be and ways to fix it.....  That's the spirit of OOF and hopefully, long may it continue.

I think you mean your fellow Bristolian, RobG

[takemineanywhere]

Hi all .Just got home no probs.Steady 55 up the M4.As i turned motor off there was a bit of a squeel,belt slipping i guess but the tensioners still in place doing its job.New belt to be sourced ASAP....Nice meeting youBM (Ross).True gent you are.Many many thanks to you &the others for helping me...By the way SHACKENG,ealier in the thread you said you pm,d me with your number.Or was this to BM ? cos i cant find it...Once again THANKS..Cheers Paul.

[Broomies Mate]

I think you mean your fellow Bristolian, RobG

Ah, my bad.  Well done to Rob then! 

Hi all .Just got home no probs.Steady 55 up the M4.As i turned motor off there was a bit of a squeel,belt slipping i guess but the tensioners still in place doing its job.New belt to be sourced ASAP....Nice meeting youBM (Ross).True gent you are.Many many thanks to you &the others for helping me...By the way SHACKENG,ealier in the thread you said you pm,d me with your number.Or was this to BM ? cos i cant find it...Once again THANKS..Cheers Paul.

Excellent news Paul.... Glad you got home without needing the RAC.  Get a belt and hopefully you should be sorted.

Would be interesting to know if the belt has stretched that much though, so keep us informed.   

[takemineanywhere]

got new belt today.Not gm...DRACO from GSF £13.80.Is there a how to on here?Icant find one.Think i need to call SHACKENG for some advice on the TD

[Seth]

got new belt today.Not gm...DRACO from GSF £13.80.Is there a how to on here?Icant find one.Think i need to call SHACKENG for some advice on the TD

Sure is, which includes changing the water pump (not necessary in your case):
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90622.0

And here's the route of said belt:



HTH

[takemineanywhere]

 SETH.I,ll have a go in the morning.Is there a download pdf ican get that shows diagrams & instructions for all of the TD engine? Thanks.....That,s a great how to Sacheng, if or when (probably) i,m struggling i,ll give you a call.Cheers.Let you all know how it goes.
,

[Shackeng]

got new belt today.Not gm...DRACO from GSF £13.80.Is there a how to on here?Icant find one.Think i need to call SHACKENG for some advice on the TD

Sure is, which includes changing the water pump (not necessary in your case):
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90622.0

And here's the route of said belt:



HTH

Thanks Byron, if OP reads my first post on this thread he would have found it!!!
takemineanywhere you have PM.

[takemineanywhere]

Sorted.New belt on.Measured against the old one exactly the same so i,ve a spare now.
Problem was the i dler pulley if thats the name for it, at the bottom of the tensioner which pushes against the belt.
       When Broomies Mate looked at it he notced this was sort of vibrating/running out of true &its securing bolt wouldn,t tighten up.
On removal it was obvious a PO had stripped the thread & bodged it with ptf tape!!!  New one on & its looking good.
Thanks again everyone for you time & help.

[omega3000]

Sorted.New belt on.Measured against the old one exactly the same so i,ve a spare now.
Problem was the i dler pulley if thats the name for it, at the bottom of the tensioner which pushes against the belt.
       When Broomies Mate looked at it he notced this was sort of vibrating/running out of true &its securing bolt wouldn,t tighten up.
On removal it was obvious a PO had stripped the thread & bodged it with ptf tape!!!  New one on & its looking good.
Thanks again everyone for you time & help.

Not a good idea