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[SMD]

Its a 440i Gran Coupe, one owner, motorway miles etc.

I haven't seen it yet, it's 135 miles away so at least 3 hours drive. Usually I wouldn't even consider it but it has a very good spec and I would only go for it if the price was reduced closer to £20k. Its a used approved from BMW (so one year manufacturers warranty) and it's priced at £23.5k. Actually it's been on there for at least 3-4 months and hasn't sold so either mileage, price or condition (or a combination) is putting people off.

My annual mileage is about 5k so if i kept it 5 years, it would have 75k on a 7 year old car which averages out.

There are lower mileage (20k miles) cars available on autotrader trader but with very basic spec.

Would this (or the fact its a BMW) put you off?

[Lazydocker]

I’d be more concerned that it’s a BMW 

In all seriousness, I would rather buy a 200k, 7 year old car than a 2000 mile 7 year old car.

If all the servicing is in line then I wouldn’t worry too much... Modern cars are capable of starship mileages

[Nick W]

I’d be more concerned that it’s a BMW 

In all seriousness, I would rather buy a 200k, 7 year old car than a 2000 mile 7 year old car.

If all the servicing is in line then I wouldn’t worry too much... Modern cars are capable of starship mileages

That is almost word for word what I was about to write. 50k miles isn't a lot. 20k miles over 30 years creates all sorts of expensive problems. Used and well maintained is always better.

[Lizzie Zoom]

I’d be more concerned that it’s a BMW 

In all seriousness, I would rather buy a 200k, 7 year old car than a 2000 mile 7 year old car.

If all the servicing is in line then I wouldn’t worry too much... Modern cars are capable of starship mileages

That is almost word for word what I was about to write. 50k miles isn't a lot. 20k miles over 30 years creates all sorts of expensive problems. Used and well maintained is always better.

Fully agree with all above comments

Some of my company cars had 100k miles on them after just one year, but they were fully serviced, well looked after with no expense spared, and when they went back to the dealer who supplied them mine were rated "like new"!

So JUST 50k after 2 years should not put you off. Just look at the normal indicators of careful ownership when you inspect it

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Its a 440i Gran Coupe, one owner, motorway miles etc.

I haven't seen it yet, it's 135 miles away so at least 3 hours drive. Usually I wouldn't even consider it but it has a very good spec and I would only go for it if the price was reduced closer to £20k. Its a used approved from BMW (so one year manufacturers warranty) and it's priced at £23.5k. Actually it's been on there for at least 3-4 months and hasn't sold so either mileage, price or condition (or a combination) is putting people off.

My annual mileage is about 5k so if i kept it 5 years, it would have 75k on a 7 year old car which averages out.

There are lower mileage (20k miles) cars available on autotrader trader but with very basic spec.

Would this (or the fact its a BMW) put you off?

For this money the car world has far more to offer....just saying.

[SMD]

Its a 440i Gran Coupe, one owner, motorway miles etc.

I haven't seen it yet, it's 135 miles away so at least 3 hours drive. Usually I wouldn't even consider it but it has a very good spec and I would only go for it if the price was reduced closer to £20k. Its a used approved from BMW (so one year manufacturers warranty) and it's priced at £23.5k. Actually it's been on there for at least 3-4 months and hasn't sold so either mileage, price or condition (or a combination) is putting people off.

My annual mileage is about 5k so if i kept it 5 years, it would have 75k on a 7 year old car which averages out.

There are lower mileage (20k miles) cars available on autotrader trader but with very basic spec.

Would this (or the fact its a BMW) put you off?

For this money the car world has far more to offer....just saying.

All opinions welcome. And still open to suggestions

Thanks for the comments. I guess I agree with those sentiments too

[Lizzie Zoom]

Its a 440i Gran Coupe, one owner, motorway miles etc.

I haven't seen it yet, it's 135 miles away so at least 3 hours drive. Usually I wouldn't even consider it but it has a very good spec and I would only go for it if the price was reduced closer to £20k. Its a used approved from BMW (so one year manufacturers warranty) and it's priced at £23.5k. Actually it's been on there for at least 3-4 months and hasn't sold so either mileage, price or condition (or a combination) is putting people off.

My annual mileage is about 5k so if i kept it 5 years, it would have 75k on a 7 year old car which averages out.

There are lower mileage (20k miles) cars available on autotrader trader but with very basic spec.

Would this (or the fact its a BMW) put you off?

For this money the car world has far more to offer....just saying.

Yes, maybe, but perhaps a good deal can be had on this as it has apparently been for sale for a few months, with the mileage (only?) putting off potential buyers. Me thinks a time for the OP to make a silly offer especially if cash in pocket to wave in front of seller.....?

[SMD]

Exactly Lizzie 

[tunnie]

I spend 50% of my time commuting in BMW 2018 m140i and before that m235i.

The ride in BMW’s is absolutely horrific, it’s utter utter shite. They feel poorly made, cheap, tin like, with cheap materials. Plastics, trim, doors etc all feel cheap.

Economical thorough, even with 3.0 twin turbo. 30mpg easy.

So I’d walk away myself and look at Jagggs

[YZ250]

I spend 50% of my time commuting in BMW 2018 m140i and before that m235i.

The ride in BMW’s is absolutely horrific, it’s utter utter shite. They feel poorly made, cheap, tin like, with cheap materials. Plastics, trim, doors etc all feel cheap.

Economical thorough, even with 3.0 twin turbo. 30mpg easy.

So I’d walk away myself and look at Jagggs

That's odd, as I spend a lot of time in my 2019 430d M Plus and it's a nice place to be.    The seats hug you so you don't move about when cornering quickly and it laps up big miles with ease. Deep pot holes are not nice with 35 profile tyres but it's comfortable otherwise. I've driven 600 miles in one go with no spinal issues.  The controls are at your finger tips and it's just so easy to drive.
There's good and bad in all cars, my sisters XE lost over 18K in a year when px'd and the horrific depreciation is well documented on the Jag forum. Not said in a nasty way as I was looking at XF's myself at one stage. Good for the second/third hand buyer though. 
Still, we speak as we find and the OP said he welcomed opinions good or bad. 

[SMD]

I spend 50% of my time commuting in BMW 2018 m140i and before that m235i.

The ride in BMW’s is absolutely horrific, it’s utter utter shite. They feel poorly made, cheap, tin like, with cheap materials. Plastics, trim, doors etc all feel cheap.

Economical thorough, even with 3.0 twin turbo. 30mpg easy.

So I’d walk away myself and look at Jagggs

I echo what Mr YZ250 said. You're really comparing apples with oranges. The 3 & 4 series in rides a lot better than the baby BMWs, adaptive suspension improves things even further as far as comfort goes. Ditto the interior.

My friend and his brother have M140i, F30 Active Hybrid 3 and 420i and I spent many hours in my brothers F30 and we are in agreement.

If you really want to compare apples with apples, the Jag XE, which is a direct competitor to the 3/4 series has noticeably inferior cabin according to owners and professional car reviewers (and I spent countless hours trawling forums and reading articles)

By the way, the M140i is twin scroll single turbo 

[tunnie]

Fair enough I’ve not been in 3 or 4, but can’t see how it could be drastically batter. While they do have figure hugging seats, they still feel cheap inside with fake leather.

Last winter his fuel cap would not open, due to ice. Cheap parts with premium badge in my view. I’m always glad to step out of it, I enjoy commuting in the Zafira more than a BMW 

Surely better options out there for the money.

[Viral_Jim]

On one of its many lengthy trips onto BMW, the stealer put me in an F30 320d.

Now, aside from the fact that compared to the 3.0 petrol, the 2.0 diseasel felt like you needed to get out and push, it was a lot better inside than the 140i, and also rode a lot better. That said, I'd avoid the combination of bigger wheels and non-adaptive suspension.

[Mr.OmegaMan]

The F30 330d xDrive / 335d xDrive that i test drove where't uncomfortable at all imo 

[aaronjb]

Don't forget, Tunnie prefers his cars to handle like the QE2 or a 1970s Lincoln Continental (based on the ribbing he's had for the last decade, anyway )

[tunnie]

Don't forget, Tunnie prefers his cars to handle like the QE2 or a 1970s Lincoln Continental (based on the ribbing he's had for the last decade, anyway )

That's true, I do like comfort over how planted a car should feel.

But even on new fresh tarmac down the M3, the M140i bounces all over the shot. Switch to a drive in the Omega, is like Rolls Royce in comparison. But I think in general all German badged cars ride are setup to be harsh/crashy and firm.

[Doctor Gollum]

Run flats can completely change the feel of how a Carr drives... Likewise the tyre make, pressure and alignment.

But as ever you completely ignore the fact that the 140i is a 'hot hatch' designed for being driven... 

Even an MV6 would probably be considered firm riding

[Viral_Jim]

That's an interesting point, runflats Vs Michelin Pilot supersports plus tank of gas was a no cost choice on my M140i.

I had the Michelin's obviously (who wouldn't?!) But I'd hate to feel what it was like on runflats.

[Doctor Gollum]

Bro has 19" Goodyear run flats on his F30 330d with no complaints although it is an SE rather than M Sport.

His commute is Southampton - Bracknell daily and I don't believe that he has ever seen a chiropractor 

[TheBoy]

I find more modern Beemers run a bit harsher than older ones, but no idea if tits lower profile tyres, runflats, crappier roads or the general move towards stiffer sprung cars.

Tunnie - the 1 and 2 series are your shitbox corsas of the Beemer world, made to a cheap and nasty spec/quality, with the 3 and 4 series bit in as your Astras, and better quality components used, uprated spec and so on.  No different from any other manufacturer.

So your Tourer really fits in more at the 3/4 series level, so its no wonder you find it a better ride than a 1 series.


Not that I fancy a Beemer. Although around my way, they are becoming a bit more exclusive again, as every other car is a Merc, driven by gormless cocks. I still find them a bit dull and boring.  Now, a (proper) M3/M5, yeah, that don't count.

[BazaJT]

A mate of mine had two 5 series[one after the other] both of which had[supposedly at any rate] M-sport suspension set ups on.Whenever he gave me a lift in either of them I was damned glad to get out of them I just couldn't take the harsh ride and uncomfy seats!

[Doctor Gollum]

A mate of mine had two 5 series[one after the other] both of which had[supposedly at any rate] M-sport suspension set ups on.Whenever he gave me a lift in either of them I was damned glad to get out of them I just couldn't take the harsh ride and uncomfy seats!

I found my 525i SE to be as comfy as the Omega, but slightly more rewarding* to drive...

*Before the gearbox decided to lock itself in top

[Marks DTM Calib]

I spend 50% of my time commuting in BMW 2018 m140i and before that m235i.

The ride in BMW’s is absolutely horrific, it’s utter utter shite. They feel poorly made, cheap, tin like, with cheap materials. Plastics, trim, doors etc all feel cheap.

Economical thorough, even with 3.0 twin turbo. 30mpg easy.

So I’d walk away myself and look at Jagggs

I find the BMWs are a good drive..........yes a very harsh suspension setup on the sportier ones....

..well all except the new 1 series which now has a transverse engine install and shares the same chassis as the fat Mini, that's been totally ruined

[aaronjb]

the fat Mini, that's been totally ruined

Just how did the fat Mini get so fat!? Must be too many bratwürst at the factory..

[SMD]

That car has now been sold. They told me they have an older model with similar mileage but basic spec for the same price.

No thank you 

[Doctor Gollum]

Well, looks like that's that sorted then

[SMD]

Well, looks like that's that sorted then