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[BazaJT]

Have you checked the idle control valve for proper operation?Possibly swap for known good one to check?Will look in GM manual I have for it and see if that gives any more pointers to poor/non-existant idling.

[Steve Brookman]

Thanks for the replies!
Will try and get a little "4" for the display.

Regards the idling-I've cleaned everything out-it will now idle at 1000rpm with the throttle position switch on-have found a Monza breaker in Oxford-will try and get the struts off it to and all the injection system.

Thanks

Steve

[BazaJT]

1,000rpm from memory of Senator/Monza ownership is a trifle high.Should be about 950? or was it as low as 850?Sounds like you're getting there though.keep it up

[Steve Brookman]

Morning all,
The Royale had been running fine for a few months but then started having running issues. It would sometimes die out and only rev to about 200rpm. After much searing it would clear. Seems like petrol starvation.

The hesitancy became more regular.
I have had the pump and filter for about 6 or 7 weeks so thought it about time!

Took off the filter pump assembly (petrol everywhere!).
Both looked from the mid 80's.

Petrol hose onto low pressure end of pump had been forced on and was cracked/split. I ordered a new bigger diameter pipe.

This was the pipe that went from the tank to the pump. I wonder if the splits caused it to act as a one way valve-allowing air to be sucked I?

Anyway I've ordered new pipe and clips and will put it back together on the weekend.

Here's a picture of work in progress!



Used my new hardstand as I didn't want petrol everywhere in the garage.
This I the hardstand in progress.

[Diamond Black Geezer]

Good stuff!  Keep going! 

[grifter]

Friend took it to his garage where he works-gave it a once over and it needs two bits of welding and a set of pads for the mot-booked in for the first week in Jan.
Better than I thought.

Other issues.

Will need a centre bearing and holder for the prop.

Speedo-the speedo is original Royale but the engine and box are Monza 3.0i-there is an electronic take off the box-any ideas on how to get a speedo working?

Heater not blowing hot or even luke warm-even when engine up to temp.

Gearbox rear seal leaking.

Strange feeling through the steering such as worn rubber mountings/bushes you can sometimes feel it through the wheel and hear it especially when on full lock-feels a bit similar to the front bush problems on mark 3 Granadas.

Any advice on the above would be more than welcome!

Regards

Steve

Hi Steve


Sweet car by the way. I had one exact same, still got a back badge and both back bumper steel corners if you want them.

[Steve Brookman]

Thanks all,
Grifter that would be great-but I'm a little way from you! What colour was yours?

Update.
Replaced the pump and filter. Took it for a spin for about 45 mins all well. Seemed to go better as well (placebo effect?).
Parked it up-came out a couple of hours later-started it and same problem.
Popped the bonnet-revved it it popped and cleared. Took the top off the air mass meter (or whatever it is called) and moved the flap back and forth and wiped the resistance track lightly.
Took it for a run for over an hour-cruising gently and redlining (it does shift!) and no problem-will give the flap a good clen with carb cleaner later.

Steve

[grifter]

Thanks all,
Grifter that would be great-but I'm a little way from you! What colour was yours?


Steve

Hi Steve

Sure if you want them just give me a shout. Mine's was the same colour as yours. Not sure of the exact name of the colour though.

[STEMO]

Thanks all,
Grifter that would be great-but I'm a little way from you! What colour was yours?


Steve

Hi Steve

Sure if you want them just give me a shout. Mine's was the same colour as yours. Not sure of the exact name of the colour though.

Blue.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Thanks all,
Grifter that would be great-but I'm a little way from you! What colour was yours?


Steve

Hi Steve

Sure if you want them just give me a shout. Mine's was the same colour as yours. Not sure of the exact name of the colour though.

Blue.

Smartarse.

[grifter]

Thanks all,
Grifter that would be great-but I'm a little way from you! What colour was yours?


Steve

Hi Steve

Sure if you want them just give me a shout. Mine's was the same colour as yours. Not sure of the exact name of the colour though.

Blue.

Smartarse.

Lol fell into the trap!

[Steve Brookman]

Took the Royale for an MOT this week-passed today!

Has been off the road for a few months.

Joy was short lived as driving from my mothers it cut out-would not re-start.

Could be ignition/ petrol pump/relay.

Got it recovered-will have a look when I get time.

Here's the miscreant!

[BazaJT]

I had the run out model of the series 1 Senator,a series 2 Senator and a series 2 Monza-still have an instrument cluster[speedo etc] from the series 2- which were the same[or very close]colour I believe it was called Helios Blue.

[Steve Brookman]

Had a quick look today-there's a spark-used my spark tester! and power getting to the pump-couldn't hear the pump-so suspecting this or fuel pick up /sender unit in the tank.

Steve

[cam.in.head]

i could be wrong but i assume yours is one of the larger early fuel pump relays.( different to the one on your other senator ?) they are a bit harder to source but you could try running a live to the fuel pump to check it. To eliminate relay as faulty or not.on the later cars the relay also powers the injectors with a perm live ,not sure about the early ones.