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Oil filter housing cant be tightened or removed.
« on: 22 July 2017, 19:21:29 »

 I thought today i'd change the oil for a laugh  >:( and when I came to remove the cap from the rest of the housing it wouldn't come as a surprise to hear it never budged at all. so off I went to get the breaker bar on it and after a struggle it seemed to move but on checking the whole bloody thing was turning and to add insult to injury no matter which way I turned the thing I could not get it off the block or could I tighten it. so my question is what can I do to sort it out as I'm slowly going off the damn car.
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Re: Oil filter housing cant be tightened or removed.
« Reply #1 on: 22 July 2017, 20:53:47 »

Bad luck. It happened to me on my blue 2.5. What you have to do is break/saw/chisel the cap off the cartridge, remove the 28mm nut now revealed holding the canister on, and replace it with a pipe and spin on filter as in the following guide.
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90579.0

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Re: Oil filter housing cant be tightened or removed.
« Reply #2 on: 22 July 2017, 20:55:51 »

Before doing something as drastic as that, try a strap wrench to hold the body while you undo the cap.
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Re: Oil filter housing cant be tightened or removed.
« Reply #3 on: 23 July 2017, 10:50:18 »

Before doing something as drastic as that, try a strap wrench to hold the body while you undo the cap.

 :y  Seconded, don't go crazy just yet

I never had a problem with mine, but I service the car myself and know its not been torqued up stupid - Says on the cap - non much from memory - 5Nm ?

I prefer the cartridge type as oil doesn't piss all over the cranksensor as housing gives some clearance when changing the filter ;)

They are a bit like Marmite - you either love or hate them  ;D.  I've not hand any issues with them, but I know others have.

Good luck and hope get sorted.  :y

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Re: Oil filter housing cant be tightened or removed.
« Reply #4 on: 23 July 2017, 10:54:34 »

Before doing something as drastic as that, try a strap wrench to hold the body while you undo the cap.

I found one with the chain worked better as the strap type that I had was still letting it spin and I still needed a breaker bar, I think the person who did it before me had done it to 45Nm  ???

Once you have the cap off re-tighten the body then only tighten the cap nut to 15Nm  :y
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Re: Oil filter housing cant be tightened or removed.
« Reply #5 on: 23 July 2017, 11:34:13 »

Before doing something as drastic as that, try a strap wrench to hold the body while you undo the cap.
This :y

Then remove the main housing, and refit it (to get good seal).  Don't bother with than spin on conversion, its a step backwards.
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Re: Oil filter housing cant be tightened or removed.
« Reply #6 on: 23 July 2017, 12:24:55 »

Why is the spin on a step backwards. I have had both and to me the spin on is more fool proof.
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Re: Oil filter housing cant be tightened or removed.
« Reply #7 on: 23 July 2017, 14:01:00 »

Ok thanks all.
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Re: Oil filter housing cant be tightened or removed.
« Reply #8 on: 23 July 2017, 14:43:48 »

I ordered a 14mm hex bit on eBay. $6 delivered. Duh. I meant to order 12mm. I don't need a set of bits from 8mm-16mm? My dad has $50k pile of tools. 80mi away.
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Re: Oil filter housing cant be tightened or removed.
« Reply #9 on: 23 July 2017, 20:08:30 »

Why is the spin on a step backwards. I have had both and to me the spin on is more fool proof.
Messy, messy, messy and messy.

The paper element type is so much cleaner, and if used right, trouble free.

I too had both up until I scrappy the Silver Bullet a couple of months back, and the paper element is so much less hassle :)
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Re: Oil filter housing cant be tightened or removed.
« Reply #10 on: 23 July 2017, 20:49:13 »

Spin on can be changed from above if fitted correctly ::)
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Re: Oil filter housing cant be tightened or removed.
« Reply #11 on: 23 July 2017, 20:56:08 »

Spin on can be changed from above if fitted correctly ::)
If the engine is cold.  I like a warm engine to thin the oil ;)
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Re: Oil filter housing cant be tightened or removed.
« Reply #12 on: 23 July 2017, 21:07:10 »

Spin on can be changed from above if fitted correctly ::)
If the engine is cold.  I like a warm engine to thin the oil ;)
Think this through...

Warm oil drains better... so get the engine nice and hot, then drain it... don't actually need to jack the car for this, but it does save getting stuck :-[ Whilst that's draining, change the air and pollen filters and plugs. Then have lunch. Then undo the oil filter. From above. Oil mess should be minimal as the hot oil should have mostly drained down in the time passed.

Scribble sweet nothings in the service book and call it done ;)
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Re: Oil filter housing cant be tightened or removed.
« Reply #13 on: 24 July 2017, 07:46:58 »

I've not looked into this in any way,but I'm curious.If the spin on filter can be changed from above why can't the element type be done that way also?
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Re: Oil filter housing cant be tightened or removed.
« Reply #14 on: 24 July 2017, 08:44:47 »

I've not looked into this in any way,but I'm curious.If the spin on filter can be changed from above why can't the element type be done that way also?
The lid cannot be undone by hand and there isn't room to swing a spanner/socket from above ;)
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