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Internal fuse cover
« on: 11 August 2017, 10:58:24 »

How do I remove the internal fuse cover to enable me to connect a scan tool while driving?

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Re: Internal fuse cover
« Reply #1 on: 11 August 2017, 11:02:06 »

Should just pull forward off it's hinges.
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Re: Internal fuse cover
« Reply #2 on: 11 August 2017, 11:15:36 »

Thanks annihilator I'll give it ago.  :y
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Re: Internal fuse cover
« Reply #3 on: 11 August 2017, 11:44:59 »

Easier to get a mini Blue Tooth Dongle for a few quid that will fit with the cover shut, otherwise if your using a n other dongle or connector just cable tie the cover so its slightly slight and not dangling on your legs.  ;)
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Re: Internal fuse cover
« Reply #4 on: 11 August 2017, 20:35:53 »

Easier to get a mini Blue Tooth Dongle for a few quid that will fit with the cover shut, otherwise if your using a n other dongle or connector just cable tie the cover so its slightly slight and not dangling on your legs.  ;)

It's a cable connection. I will do the zip tie at a last result but really need to remove the hinged cover for a while if its easy enough. I just can't figure out how it pulls straight off. Do I need to remove the pins some how?

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Re: Internal fuse cover
« Reply #5 on: 11 August 2017, 20:36:45 »

Should just pull forward off it's hinges.

Can't seem to pull mine off.
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Re: Internal fuse cover
« Reply #6 on: 11 August 2017, 21:12:19 »

I thought that it was a case of pushing the plastic hinge pins out :-\
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Re: Internal fuse cover
« Reply #7 on: 11 August 2017, 22:30:53 »

I thought that it was a case of pushing the plastic hinge pins out :-\

So did I  :-\
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Re: Internal fuse cover
« Reply #8 on: 11 August 2017, 22:38:02 »

Just plug it in then hold the cover up till you get in the seat then let the cover rest on your leg.

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Re: Internal fuse cover
« Reply #9 on: 11 August 2017, 23:57:59 »

Just plug it in then hold the cover up till you get in the seat then let the cover rest on your leg.
No wonder you crash... ::)

Open the cover and allow to drop down. Then grab the sides next to the hinges and tug firmly towards the steering wheel. Should simply pop off. If it still has the strap attached, this can easily be removed with the cover detached :y
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Re: Internal fuse cover
« Reply #10 on: 12 August 2017, 00:03:09 »

What difference does it make if its resting, the clutch can still be pressed

and what does something that happened 10years ago have to do with a fusebox
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Re: Internal fuse cover
« Reply #11 on: 12 August 2017, 00:10:50 »

Easier to get a mini Blue Tooth Dongle for a few quid that will fit with the cover shut, otherwise if your using a n other dongle or connector just cable tie the cover so its slightly slight and not dangling on your legs.  ;)

It's a cable connection. I will do the zip tie at a last result but really need to remove the hinged cover for a while if its easy enough. I just can't figure out how it pulls straight off. Do I need to remove the pins some how?

Thanks

bluetooth works well, but alternatively just get an extension cable for £1.83

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272648767890

you can then close the cover, the cable itself is "thin as noodle", apparently :)
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Re: Internal fuse cover
« Reply #12 on: 12 August 2017, 00:13:58 »

What difference does it make if its resting, the clutch can still be pressed

and what does something that happened 10years ago have to do with a fusebox
It's stupid advice when it can readily be removed.
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Re: Internal fuse cover
« Reply #13 on: 12 August 2017, 00:21:09 »

Just plug it in then hold the cover up till you get in the seat then let the cover rest on your leg.
No wonder you crash... ::)

Open the cover and allow to drop down. Then grab the sides next to the hinges and tug firmly towards the steering wheel. Should simply pop off. If it still has the strap attached, this can easily be removed with the cover detached :y

hmm, i'm sure i had to push the pins out first as well. still if you follows dg's recommendation you won't have to worry about pushing them out.  ever again.  ::)
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Re: Internal fuse cover
« Reply #14 on: 12 August 2017, 00:26:37 »

What difference does it make if its resting, the clutch can still be pressed

and what does something that happened 10years ago have to do with a fusebox
It's stupid advice when it can readily be removed.

Its an option, Op cant remove the cover

What about holding the cover closed with black nasty?
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Re: Internal fuse cover
« Reply #15 on: 12 August 2017, 07:27:39 »

1. Omegod says he has removed these covers before. Ask him.
2. It's the plug body which prevents the cover from being closed enough for safe driving/testing. A dongle would probably produce the same result.
3. I've just experienced the same problem and am now going to buy the most sensible alternative... the extension cable. This will no doubt guarantee that I will not need to use the code reader again in the future.  ;D
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Re: Internal fuse cover
« Reply #16 on: 12 August 2017, 09:02:03 »

Don't know what you wimps :D are having problems with,just gone outside and took mine off in less than 5 secs.It's a Pfl but I don't think it matters will post a pic after I've taken the dog out.
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Re: Internal fuse cover
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Re: Internal fuse cover
« Reply #18 on: 12 August 2017, 10:23:46 »

A picture is worth a thousand words.  :y

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Re: Internal fuse cover
« Reply #19 on: 12 August 2017, 11:59:47 »

What difference does it make if its resting, the clutch can still be pressed

and what does something that happened 10years ago have to do with a fusebox
It's stupid advice when it can readily be removed.

Its an option, Op cant remove the cover

What about holding the cover closed with black nasty?
Op hasn't tried :-X
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Re: Internal fuse cover
« Reply #20 on: 12 August 2017, 12:00:42 »

Don't know what you wimps :D are having problems with,just gone outside and took mine off in less than 5 secs.It's a Pfl but I don't think it matters will post a pic after I've taken the dog out.
John.
Indeed :D
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Re: Internal fuse cover
« Reply #21 on: 12 August 2017, 12:01:59 »

Just plug it in then hold the cover up till you get in the seat then let the cover rest on your leg.
No wonder you crash... ::)

Open the cover and allow to drop down. Then grab the sides next to the hinges and tug firmly towards the steering wheel. Should simply pop off. If it still has the strap attached, this can easily be removed with the cover detached :y

hmm, i'm sure i had to push the pins out first as well. still if you follows dg's recommendation you won't have to worry about pushing them out.  ever again.  ::)
He could try removing the ecu first ::)  :P
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Re: Internal fuse cover
« Reply #22 on: 12 August 2017, 12:52:56 »

How do I remove the internal fuse cover to enable me to connect a scan tool while driving?

Thanks

Is that for the AA Genie thingy? :-\
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Re: Internal fuse cover
« Reply #23 on: 12 August 2017, 17:45:49 »

Just plug it in then hold the cover up till you get in the seat then let the cover rest on your leg.
No wonder you crash... ::)

Open the cover and allow to drop down. Then grab the sides next to the hinges and tug firmly towards the steering wheel. Should simply pop off. If it still has the strap attached, this can easily be removed with the cover detached :y

hmm, i'm sure i had to push the pins out first as well. still if you follows dg's recommendation you won't have to worry about pushing them out.  ever again.  ::)
He could try removing the ecu first ::)  :P

LOL Al.  ;D ;D ;D some one replaced my pins with metal ones and where the plastic hinges on the glovebox connect both was broken off and they did what looks like a plastic hinge repair of there own design. Never seeing one before the pic I didn't want to break it.

Thanks all for your help.  :y
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Re: Internal fuse cover
« Reply #24 on: 13 August 2017, 08:47:59 »

I see the usual haters are out, trying to pick holes in the CORRECT advice given by a DG.

There are no push pins, voodoo spells or anything else... Open it fully, grasp near hinges and pull. Hardly rocket science.

For those who want to waste money, buy an extension for no reason :y
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Re: Internal fuse cover
« Reply #25 on: 14 August 2017, 14:41:39 »

I see the usual haters are out, trying to pick holes in the CORRECT advice given by a DG.

There are no push pins, voodoo spells or anything else... Open it fully, grasp near hinges and pull. Hardly rocket science.

For those who want to waste money, buy an extension for no reason :y

i see the usual dg best buddy is out ::)

do you mean correct advice like the time dg told everyone never to put copper grease on spark plug threads or it would trash the cats? ??? Or claiming that not plugging in the seatbelt will disable the air bags?  :o or the time he told someone with an ecu connection fault to pull all the plugs and put 6 tablespoons of oil into the cylinders  ;D

the fuse cover is not just there for decoration, notice how soft and padded it is? It is part of the crash protection.  if you have a crash with it removed you are opening up your lower legs to be removed. safer to spend £1.83 on an extension  :y
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Re: Internal fuse cover
« Reply #26 on: 14 August 2017, 16:00:36 »

I see the usual haters are out, trying to pick holes in the CORRECT advice given by a DG.

There are no push pins, voodoo spells or anything else... Open it fully, grasp near hinges and pull. Hardly rocket science.

For those who want to waste money, buy an extension for no reason :y

i see the usual dg best buddy is out ::)

1. do you mean correct advice like the time dg told everyone never to put copper grease on spark plug threads or it would trash the cats? ??? 2. Or claiming that not plugging in the seatbelt will disable the air bags?  :o 3. or the time he told someone with an ecu connection fault to pull all the plugs and put 6 tablespoons of oil into the cylinders  ;D

the fuse cover is not just there for decoration, notice how soft and padded it is? It is part of the crash protection.  if you have a crash with it removed you are opening up your lower legs to be removed. safer to spend £1.83 on an extension  :y
1. Stand corrected on this point, although had previously been led to believe this was the case.

2. This applies to more modern vehicles with seat occupancy detection/pretensions/audible warnings that those plug in clips claim to disable, in this case a newer Mundeo.  But don't let context get in the way of a good character assassination.

3. Standard, effective method for curing flooding when all else fails. In the absence of any evidence to the contrary, this was sound advice... Unlike your own suggestion of replacing the ecu ;D

Removing the fusebox lid TEMPORARILY for testing purposes is a far better solution than trying to latch it with an obstruction in place. This would actually make it insecure and liable to drop down at the merest bump and therefore likely to foul both feet and pedals and cause more significant injury in an impact... It is padded on the outer face, but is in no way whatsoever frangible. Smack the top edge of one against your shin if you don't believe me.

Once again, arguing for the shear hell of it :-X
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Re: Internal fuse cover
« Reply #27 on: 14 August 2017, 18:19:09 »

just a safety warning for anyone reading that.  Under no circumstances, for any car, assume that the air bag will not deploy just because you haven't plugged the seatbelt in. :o  It very dangerous and wrong advice , as i pointed out at the time :y.
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Re: Internal fuse cover
« Reply #28 on: 14 August 2017, 18:37:11 »

No shit... ;D

Not wearing your seltbelt is clearly going to end badly if the collision is significant enough to warrant firing the airbags. Regardless of whether they fire or not. If they do fire and you're not wearing your seatbelt, because you have either fastened it behind you or have used one of those blank clips to turn the bong off, then expect far worse injuries than if they hadn't fired for any given crash ::) which was the point you coquishly chose to ignore.

Anyhoo,back to op, have you released the cover yet?
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Re: Internal fuse cover
« Reply #29 on: 14 August 2017, 19:03:06 »

i've ignored the other stuff that dg has  wrong (eg despite what he says the fuse cover clearly is softened to minimise impact damage) and concentrate only on his dangerous advice.  i simply repeat what i said at the time, in case anyone stumbles across what he has repeated here and kills themselves

Point is Andy, if the car thinks the belt is plugged in it WILL fire the airbags etc.

Unplugged and it won't/shouldn't ergo no airbag decapitation.

What Dave is saying is that he uses a dummy buckle to silence the warning; it serves no other function; as far as the car is concerned, the driver is wearing a seat belt and will fire the airbags etc as designed.

this is dangleberries and DANGEROUS advice

the airbags will deploy even if you have no seatbelt on.  this is a good thing, you will at least get some protection (though not wearing a seat belt is a bad thing, of course). this is why in the passenger seat you have to MANUALLY DEACTIVATE the air bag if you fit a baby seat. 

its dangerous advice because simply not plugging in a seat belt will NOT de-activate the airbag, DO NOT rely on that not to trigger the air bags and decapitate your baby. 

similarly when working near any of the airbags including side ones DO NOT take doctor gollums advice and think that because the seat belt is not plugged in you  are safe from airbag detonation. you are not.

similarly no objects must be placed in the area in which the airbags inflate, as they could cause injury when the airbags are triggered. DO NOT rely on doctor gollums advice and think that because the seat belt is not plugged in you  are safe from airbag detonation. you are not.

having said all that some omegas are fitted with "seat occupancy recognition".  this is NOT based on whether the seat belt is plugged in, or whether a dummy buckle is plugged in.  it is based on a seat weigth sensor.  from the manual

The seat occupancy
recognition system deactivates the
passenger front and side airbags if the
passenger seat is unoccupied or a
Vauxhall child restraint system with
transponders has been fitted to the
passenger seat.

vehicles with seat occupancy
recognition can be identified by the sticker
on the front passenger’s seat.
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Re: Internal fuse cover
« Reply #30 on: 14 August 2017, 19:20:30 »

Re read my first sentence in that quote. Digest it and take the time to understand the meaning of the words in relationship with each other. Then apply that to the broader context of the entire quote.

Which, by the way,  wasn't about an Omega, unlike your attempt at an argument  ;D

So kindly stop being such a clunge and do one. There's a good lad :-*
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Re: Internal fuse cover
« Reply #31 on: 14 August 2017, 19:45:29 »

If you two would like to get a room where you can wave your dicks at each other to compare sizes in private it would be much appreciated.

The constant carping at each other in attempts to score points on a fictitious board is.... to put it mildly .... very boring, and does nothing for the reputation of either of you, and more importantly, for the reputation of the forum.

If you have nothing additional to say regarding the subject matter in hand .. then just STFU ??? Once you have disagreed on a matter why keep going over it time and time again ??

You both have a lot to give the forum, and most of it is much appreciated, but why do you keep having a go at each other ?? It is achieving the square root of FA

Just my view, and yes, whether you like it or not, I'm entitled to air it, just as you are.

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« Reply #32 on: 14 August 2017, 19:53:56 »

I fully agree with the sentiment E, and get thoroughly fed up at having to defend every single thing I post just because one person has decided to be objectionable.

And again, another perfectly good thread trashed due the provocation of one person >:(
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« Reply #33 on: 16 August 2017, 12:33:18 »

Of course, you could both try not rising to each other's provocation so threads like this remain useful.

Locking, as further discussion is not going to help the OP's predicament.
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