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[paul l]

Are F/L irmscher really worth £350?, like the one on ebay. Would like one but at that price, plus cost of repaint it seems alot

[Doctor Gollum]

Are F/L irmscher really worth £350?, like the one on ebay. Would like one but at that price, plus cost of repaint it seems alot

I bought the last new one a few years ago... It cost nearly a grand.

Entirely up to you 

[paul l]

fair play sir

One shall send an offer

[zirk]

If I was selling or buying I would go around the 275+ mark for a good second hand Irmy Front Bumper, I think you need at least the Irmy side skirts as well to match the Bumper, doesn't look right on its own.

Just watch out for the Eastern Euro ones for sale, some are cheap fake resin copies. 

[serek]

They do copy in Poland still about £200 for fake

[STEMO]

They do copy in Poland still about £200 for fake

If it's an acceptable fake, i.e. it fits and looks like the real thing, then it might be the only way to go if you really want one.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Cant imagine why anyone would want one. I think they are ugly as sin. 

[TheBoy]

Cant imagine why anyone would want one. I think they are ugly as sin. 

Obviously any styling is an individual preference, but a standard FL Elite seems to suffer from non-descript, bland looks in a fair few peoples eyes.

I think that's why you always saw more Irmscher'd FL than Irmcher'd PFL

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

It was indeed a bit nondescript, but the answer was never going to be that hideous monstrosity bolted on the front.
Nondescript beats pig ugly any day in my book. 

[Mr.OmegaMan]

Personally, I like the MV6/Sport bumper out of all choices available for the FL. It's not too much in your face in a 'chavvy' way and not bland like the standard bumper. I do like the Irmcher rear bumper though and if one came up that ticked all the boxes i'd go for it.

But on the right car that's clean with all the irmy kit and wheels, they do look good. But they just look a little over the top for me personally for my own car, I do like to look at others with them on though. Also, like the Steinmetz FL Omega kit.

[TheBoy]

It was indeed a bit nondescript, but the answer was never going to be that hideous monstrosity bolted on the front.
Nondescript beats pig ugly any day in my book. 

Owning an X351 XJ, I've learnt to live with pig ugly.  If you can't see it from the drivers seat....

[Doctor Gollum]

It was indeed a bit nondescript, but the answer was never going to be that hideous monstrosity bolted on the front.
Nondescript beats pig ugly any day in my book. 

Owning an X351 XJ, I've learnt to live with pig ugly.  If you can't see it from the drivers seat....

Spoken like a true Scorpio driver

[TheBoy]

It was indeed a bit nondescript, but the answer was never going to be that hideous monstrosity bolted on the front.
Nondescript beats pig ugly any day in my book. 

Owning an X351 XJ, I've learnt to live with pig ugly.  If you can't see it from the drivers seat....

Spoken like a true Scorpio driver

Only I reverse arse first into parking spaces, whereas a Scorpio driver has to go in forwards. Just to ensure you don't catch a glance of the ugly end

[Doctor Gollum]

It was indeed a bit nondescript, but the answer was never going to be that hideous monstrosity bolted on the front.
Nondescript beats pig ugly any day in my book. 

Owning an X351 XJ, I've learnt to live with pig ugly.  If you can't see it from the drivers seat....

Spoken like a true Scorpio driver

Only I reverse arse first into parking spaces, whereas a Scorpio driver has to go in forwards. Just to ensure you don't catch a glance of the really ugly end

Fixed... it never had a good side (or end)

[TheBoy]

It was indeed a bit nondescript, but the answer was never going to be that hideous monstrosity bolted on the front.
Nondescript beats pig ugly any day in my book. 

Owning an X351 XJ, I've learnt to live with pig ugly.  If you can't see it from the drivers seat....

Spoken like a true Scorpio driver

Only I reverse arse first into parking spaces, whereas a Scorpio driver has to go in forwards. Just to ensure you don't catch a glance of the really ugly end

Fixed... it never had a good side (or end)

I'm sure its designer had a soft spot. Clearly deranged, mind

[Doctor Gollum]

It looked ok in Moonstone grey, but Nantucket beige made the back of the saloon look like a moose's arse

[TheBoy]

It looked ok in Moonstone grey

Are your specs playing up Dr G?

[Doctor Gollum]

It looked ok in Moonstone grey

Are your specs playing up Dr G?

not at all, it simply helped it to blend in, especially with dark light lenses...

[STEMO]

It was indeed a bit nondescript, but the answer was never going to be that hideous monstrosity bolted on the front.
Nondescript beats pig ugly any day in my book. 

Owning an X351 XJ, I've learnt to live with pig ugly.  If you can't see it from the drivers seat....

Spoken like a true Scorpio driver

Only I reverse arse first into parking spaces, whereas a Scorpio driver has to go in forwards. Just to ensure you don't catch a glance of the really ugly end

Fixed... it never had a good side (or end)

I'm sure its designer had a soft spot. Clearly deranged, mind

Fair enough. But it could have been stopped at any time during design/manufacturing, so it must have been a case of mass hallucination. 

[ronnyd]

As a Granny owner for quite a few years the natural replacement would have been the Scorpio. BUT, it was soooo frickin ugly that i just couldn,t bring myself to get one, even though they look good inside. So i got a PFL Mig instead. . I even put up with a gay gold one.

[Entwood]

The Mk 1 - Ford Scorpio hatchback was, IMHO, a smart and versatile motor, with a decent amount of grunt with the 2.8 V6 engine, and was an excellent towcar for many years.

The Mk 11 - Ford Scorpio was an abomination, whoever thought up its "styling" (or total lack of it) should have been shot. Quentin Willson said in an episode of Top Gear in April 1997 that the "sad eyed Scorpio is so heroically ugly, it was obviously designed by Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder."



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[Doctor Gollum]

The Mk 3 - Ford Granada hatchback was, IMHO, a smart and versatile motor, with a decent amount of grunt with the 24v V6 engine, and was an excellent towcar for many years. Especially in Scorpio spec with heated electric leather all round. The saloon had an even bigger boot, but obviously not quite as practical.

The Ford Scorpio was an abomination regardless of spec, whoever thought up its "styling" (or total lack of it) should have been shot. Quentin Willson said in an episode of Top Gear in April 1997 that the "sad eyed Scorpio is so heroically ugly, it was obviously designed by Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder."

That said, my Dad replaced his '93 Granada Scorpio hatch with a mint, low mileage five year old S reg Scorpio Ultima estate... looks notwithstanding, a very nice, and equally capable car. He kept it nearly six years, only replacing it when the bodywork started looking shabby. the final straw being when the heater matrix exploded, finally rendering the thing scrap.

Fixed for accuracy

[Entwood]

The Mk 3 - Ford Granada hatchback was, IMHO, a smart and versatile motor, with a decent amount of grunt with the 24v V6 engine, and was an excellent towcar for many years. Especially in Scorpio spec with heated electric leather all round. The saloon had an even bigger boot, but obviously not quite as practical.

The Ford Scorpio was an abomination regardless of spec, whoever thought up its "styling" (or total lack of it) should have been shot. Quentin Willson said in an episode of Top Gear in April 1997 that the "sad eyed Scorpio is so heroically ugly, it was obviously designed by Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder."

That said, my Dad replaced his '93 Granada Scorpio hatch with a mint, low mileage five year old S reg Scorpio Ultima estate... looks notwithstanding, a very nice, and equally capable car. He kept it nearly six years, only replacing it when the bodywork started looking shabby. the final straw being when the heater matrix exploded, finally rendering the thing scrap.

Fixed for accuracy

Your "accuracy" differs from recorded reality .... 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Scorpio

[Doctor Gollum]

You're confusing Wikipedia with reality

In Euroland the Mk 3 Granada was indeed known as the Scorpio...

In the Uk, however, the Scorpio was a trim level of the Mk3 Granada. The later Scorpio may or may not have been a Mk4 Granada... but it was a poorly rehashed Mk3 with a Mondeo style dash, designed to see off the imminent Omega B. Or not, as it turned out