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[Mister Rog]

Neymar, Rooney, Bale etc

How do you compare ?  A bit of depressing fun  I like the bit at the bottom showing earnings in real time

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/41037621


 

[tunnie]

I'd rather compare 5L emulsion white paint, from 3 different manufactures.

Be far more interesting. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

So some nancy boy gets paid £1M a week for kicking a ball around on a piece of grass.

The PM earns around £150,000 each year.

It's a totally fu*cked up world.

[Mister Rog]

So some nancy boy gets paid £1M a week for kicking a ball around on a piece of grass.

The PM earns around £150,000 each year.

It's a totally fu*cked up world.

Exactly my point. Bonkers. A highly trained NHS consultant earns around £95k - £150k PA excluding private practice.

[Mister Rog]

I'd rather compare 5L emulsion white paint, from 3 different manufactures.

Be far more interesting. 

Ah. Sorry about that. I'l try to ensure that all future posts are rivetingly interesting to everyone here, like DIY,  weather, and Sky TV services. (terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired)

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

So some nancy boy gets paid £1M a week for kicking a ball around on a piece of grass.

The PM earns around £150,000 each year.

It's a totally fu*cked up world.

Exactly my point. Bonkers. A highly trained NHS consultant earns around £95k - £150k PA excluding private practice.[/highl

 

So it takes a skilled consultant roughly 5-7 years to earn the same as a little lad kicking a ball about earns in a week.

[Paddy Flannery]

Galling though it is, these unskilled boys have agents who get them the best deals in a sport that is awash with money. Christ knows what they do with it all as most of the year they are training and playing, so apart from maybe going out for a meal that's fits the dietary advice that have been given by the club, what the hell do they do with it all ? Suppose family and hangers on do well ...

[ronnyd]

Thought that Mr Rooney spent his early salary on ageing ladies of ill repute.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Thought that Mr Rooney spent his early salary on ageing ladies of ill repute.

Grey muff! 

[BazaJT]

They are all massively overpaid,although I can't say as I blame them for demanding and getting it.There was a programme on the radio this afternoon asking listeners what buildings they'd like to see demolished and my immediate thought was every football stadium in the country!It's a totally boring game and should be abolished.

[plym ian]

Can't go on it. Think opti has broken it being on more than Neymar

[Rods2]

So some nancy boy gets paid £1M a week for kicking a ball around on a piece of grass.

The PM earns around £150,000 each year.

It's a totally fu*cked up world.

Exactly my point. Bonkers. A highly trained NHS consultant earns around £95k - £150k PA excluding private practice.[/highl

 

So it takes a skilled consultant roughly 5-7 years to earn the same as a little lad kicking a ball about earns in a week.

If I show a printed piece of plastic/paper with I promise to pay and a nominal £££'s value does it over all other printed pieces of plastic/paper suddenly have morals? No, it is our societies, amazingly flexible and useful (if you don't believe me try using the alternative of bartering), standard method of exchange for charging or consuming goods or services called money.

If I offer to sell totally legal goods, services or rent out my time and skills or consume other people's offered goods, services or rent their time or skills in what is called a market place has the market morals? No.

If lots of people are prepared to pay for my skills so I make lots of money have the transactions morals? No.

Therefore applying morality to all of the above is a totally bogus argument and some people use their brains to subjectively apply morals, as they feel fit, to the above. (btw it is normally lefties to make themselves feel smug and superior to the rest of us ).

So why does a very top footballer get paid much more than a doctor or nurse?

1. Supply and demand there are many more doctors and nurses than top, top footballers. The Premier League consists of 20 football clubs with a team having a maximum of 23 registered players. So the core of a multibillion industry has 460 top, top players.

2. Why does a small industry make billions, because like all hobbies and entertainment industries we are prepared to spend disproportionate amounts of money on enjoying them. Most people have about 60 hours of leisure time per week and (apart from Tunnie who likes watching 5l tins of white paint, when he is not in the local student bar telling all and sundry how exciting the speed and acceleration are as you do 2000 miles on a thimble of derv  ) want their sensory perception to be stimulated in exciting ways. Now I'm sure Lord Opti, spends hours thinking about, planning and deciding how can I spend Saturday afternoon. Now shall I plan to watch some entertainment I love or shall I plan to have a really bad accident and love even more consuming those doctor's or nurses services as they painfully put me back together again? I can't wait to get those tickets for my entertainment of choice or I can't wait for all that blood, gore, pain and disability as the doctors and nurses put me back together again from that bad accident. Most normal people will go out of their way to be entertained and also go out our way to avoid the skills and services of doctors and nurses which most of us do successfully avoid most of the time.

3. What we earn all comes down to supply and demand in free markets, simples.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

It's a crazy world.
All the really shitty jobs that nobody wants to do are paid at minimum wage.

All the really great jobs that we would do for free or even pay to do are paid at at a high rate.

It's all arse about tit really.

If all the clubs in the premier league got together and decided that no club would pay no more than £500 a week to any footballer the quality of the 'entertainment ' would be exactly the same.

TB should add overpaid nancy boy footballers to his cull list.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

So some nancy boy gets paid £1M a week for kicking a ball around on a piece of grass.

The PM earns around £150,000 each year.

It's a totally fu*cked up world.

Exactly my point. Bonkers. A highly trained NHS consultant earns around £95k - £150k PA excluding private practice.[/highl

 

So it takes a skilled consultant roughly 5-7 years to earn the same as a little lad kicking a ball about earns in a week.

If I show a printed piece of plastic/paper with I promise to pay and a nominal £££'s value does it over all other printed pieces of plastic/paper suddenly have morals? No, it is our societies, amazingly flexible and useful (if you don't believe me try using the alternative of bartering), standard method of exchange for charging or consuming goods or services called money.

If I offer to sell totally legal goods, services or rent out my time and skills or consume other people's offered goods, services or rent their time or skills in what is called a market place has the market morals? No.

If lots of people are prepared to pay for my skills so I make lots of money have the transactions morals? No.

Therefore applying morality to all of the above is a totally bogus argument and some people use their brains to subjectively apply morals, as they feel fit, to the above. (btw it is normally lefties to make themselves feel smug and superior to the rest of us ).

So why does a very top footballer get paid much more than a doctor or nurse?

1. Supply and demand there are many more doctors and nurses than top, top footballers. The Premier League consists of 20 football clubs with a team having a maximum of 23 registered players. So the core of a multibillion industry has 460 top, top players.

2. Why does a small industry make billions, because like all hobbies and entertainment industries we are prepared to spend disproportionate amounts of money on enjoying them. Most people have about 60 hours of leisure time per week and (apart from Tunnie who likes watching 5l tins of white paint, when he is not in the local student bar telling all and sundry how exciting the speed and acceleration are as you do 2000 miles on a thimble of derv  ) want their sensory perception to be stimulated in exciting ways. Now I'm sure Lord Opti, spends hours thinking about, planning and deciding how can I spend Saturday afternoon. Now shall I plan to watch some entertainment I love or shall I plan to have a really bad accident and love even more consuming those doctor's or nurses services as they painfully put me back together again? I can't wait to get those tickets for my entertainment of choice or I can't wait for all that blood, gore, pain and disability as the doctors and nurses put me back together again from that bad accident. Most normal people will go out of their way to be entertained and also go out our way to avoid the skills and services of doctors and nurses which most of us do successfully avoid most of the time.

3. What we earn all comes down to supply and demand in free markets, simples.

I imagine there are far fewer 'cutting edge' neurosurgeons than premier league footballers. So your supply and demand theory is overly simplistic.

Such people are hard working professionals with a high I.Q. Compare this with the average footballer, who has the intellectual capacity of a retarded goat.

[New POD]

Neymar, Rooney, Bale etc

How do you compare ?  A bit of depressing fun  I like the bit at the bottom showing earnings in real time

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/41037621


 

ROOOOONEY, When he last played for everton, before the united years, he lived at the posh end of my town.  One evening I saw him parked half on the pavement, on double yellows, and he came out of a pizza take away carrying about 6 boxes. I did find it strange that he had a second job as a delivery guy, but hey.....he was playing for the love and not the money.

[Rods2]

So some nancy boy gets paid £1M a week for kicking a ball around on a piece of grass.

The PM earns around £150,000 each year.

It's a totally fu*cked up world.

Exactly my point. Bonkers. A highly trained NHS consultant earns around £95k - £150k PA excluding private practice.[/highl

 

So it takes a skilled consultant roughly 5-7 years to earn the same as a little lad kicking a ball about earns in a week.

If I show a printed piece of plastic/paper with I promise to pay and a nominal £££'s value does it over all other printed pieces of plastic/paper suddenly have morals? No, it is our societies, amazingly flexible and useful (if you don't believe me try using the alternative of bartering), standard method of exchange for charging or consuming goods or services called money.

If I offer to sell totally legal goods, services or rent out my time and skills or consume other people's offered goods, services or rent their time or skills in what is called a market place has the market morals? No.

If lots of people are prepared to pay for my skills so I make lots of money have the transactions morals? No.

Therefore applying morality to all of the above is a totally bogus argument and some people use their brains to subjectively apply morals, as they feel fit, to the above. (btw it is normally lefties to make themselves feel smug and superior to the rest of us ).

So why does a very top footballer get paid much more than a doctor or nurse?

1. Supply and demand there are many more doctors and nurses than top, top footballers. The Premier League consists of 20 football clubs with a team having a maximum of 23 registered players. So the core of a multibillion industry has 460 top, top players.

2. Why does a small industry make billions, because like all hobbies and entertainment industries we are prepared to spend disproportionate amounts of money on enjoying them. Most people have about 60 hours of leisure time per week and (apart from Tunnie who likes watching 5l tins of white paint, when he is not in the local student bar telling all and sundry how exciting the speed and acceleration are as you do 2000 miles on a thimble of derv  ) want their sensory perception to be stimulated in exciting ways. Now I'm sure Lord Opti, spends hours thinking about, planning and deciding how can I spend Saturday afternoon. Now shall I plan to watch some entertainment I love or shall I plan to have a really bad accident and love even more consuming those doctor's or nurses services as they painfully put me back together again? I can't wait to get those tickets for my entertainment of choice or I can't wait for all that blood, gore, pain and disability as the doctors and nurses put me back together again from that bad accident. Most normal people will go out of their way to be entertained and also go out our way to avoid the skills and services of doctors and nurses which most of us do successfully avoid most of the time.

3. What we earn all comes down to supply and demand in free markets, simples.

I imagine there are far fewer 'cutting edge' neurosurgeons than premier league footballers. So your supply and demand theory is overly simplistic.

Such people are hard working professionals with a high I.Q. Compare this with the average footballer, who has the intellectual capacity of a retarded goat.

Wrong, we don't need a nation of brain surgeons but a large group of people with a diverse range of exceptional talents.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

The money earned by "entertainers", whether in sport, music, films etc. is pretty obscene and very difficult to justify, although its us the general populace who actually enable it via our SKY / BT subs and the like.
We enable it because its a kind of new religion which takes our minds of the daily grind, lifes troubles etc.
Its a rotten system which allows it to happen, but the alternative is for the state to place upper (as well as lower) limits on how much money people can earn, and that has been shown time and time again, to be much worse.
There is no easy answer to it, unless we all wise up and stop forking out to enable it.

[Rods2]

The money earned by "entertainers", whether in sport, music, films etc. is pretty obscene and very difficult to justify, although its us the general populace who actually enable it via our SKY / BT subs and the like.
We enable it because its a kind of new religion which takes our minds of the daily grind, lifes troubles etc.
Its a rotten system which allows it to happen, but the alternative is for the state to place upper (as well as lower) limits on how much money people can earn, and that has been shown time and time again, to be much worse.
There is no easy answer to it, unless we all wise up and stop forking out to enable it.

It is very easy to look at the exceptional headline figures that the press always quote. As soon as you drop from the top point of the very steep sided pyramid the amounts earnt drop rapidly. I know several people as former international musicians that have done okay but once it has dried up, which has included at their peak such delights as living out of a suitcase for months on tour (but their hedonistic lifestyle would have made Lord Opti jealous) they then had to pay the daily bills with regular incomes coming in.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

That is also true. If you make it to the top of the mountain the rewards are huge. if you get half way up and then slide back down, it can result in years of hard work for absolutely nothing, and this is often down to nothing more than bad luck, or a bad manager, and no reflection on level of talent.
I knew a keyboards player in the 70,s who was superb. Would give Rick Wakeman something to worry about. His band made three albums, while the manager paid the band £20 a week. He left the band and had to sign on, as he was penniless and had a wife and three kids to support.
On the other hand, my kids went to school with Steve Harleys kids, and although he isn't a squillionare, the royalties from Come up and see me, along with is other hits, will keep him comfortable for the rest of his days.
This high risk scenario, along with the drugs is probably why my parents strongly discouraged me from trying for a career in rock music and steered me towards the steady 9 to 5 type of job.
I still deeply regret taking any notice of them. I could hardly have ended up worse off than I am now. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

The money earned by "entertainers", whether in sport, music, films etc. is pretty obscene and very difficult to justify, although its us the general populace who actually enable it via our SKY / BT subs and the like.
We enable it because its a kind of new religion which takes our minds of the daily grind, lifes troubles etc.
Its a rotten system which allows it to happen, but the alternative is for the state to place upper (as well as lower) limits on how much money people can earn, and that has been shown time and time again, to be much worse.
There is no easy answer to it, unless we all wise up and stop forking out to enable it.

Well, I certainly wouldn't pay for Sky......or pay an arm and a leg to watch 22 foreign players kick a ball around on 'English grass' 

[Mister Rog]

The money earned by "entertainers", whether in sport, music, films etc. is pretty obscene and very difficult to justify, although its us the general populace who actually enable it via our SKY / BT subs and the like.
We enable it because its a kind of new religion which takes our minds of the daily grind, lifes troubles etc.
Its a rotten system which allows it to happen, but the alternative is for the state to place upper (as well as lower) limits on how much money people can earn, and that has been shown time and time again, to be much worse.
There is no easy answer to it, unless we all wise up and stop forking out to enable it.

Well, I certainly wouldn't pay for Sky......or pay an arm and a leg to watch 22 foreign players kick a ball around on 'English grass'

I am often shocked by how much people cough up per month for various subscriptions, phone, internet, sky or whatever, and then various specialized channels. And, I don't mean wealthy people, often on benefits  spending £50 or even £100 per month. It's only entertainment, it's not actually important.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Apparently Rooney was arrested on suspicion of drink driving last night. 

Now what was Lord Opti saying about footballers intellect?   

[STEMO]

The money earned by "entertainers", whether in sport, music, films etc. is pretty obscene and very difficult to justify, although its us the general populace who actually enable it via our SKY / BT subs and the like.
We enable it because its a kind of new religion which takes our minds of the daily grind, lifes troubles etc.
Its a rotten system which allows it to happen, but the alternative is for the state to place upper (as well as lower) limits on how much money people can earn, and that has been shown time and time again, to be much worse.
There is no easy answer to it, unless we all wise up and stop forking out to enable it.

Well, I certainly wouldn't pay for Sky......or pay an arm and a leg to watch 22 foreign players kick a ball around on 'English grass'

I am often shocked by how much people cough up per month for various subscriptions, phone, internet, sky or whatever, and then various specialized channels. And, I don't mean wealthy people, often on benefits  spending £50 or even £100 per month. It's only entertainment, it's not actually important.

I think it is important and, given the choice between one night out or a month of sky, I would choose sky.

[Kevin Wood]

Apparently Rooney was arrested on suspicion of drink driving last night. 

Now what was Lord Opti saying about footballers intellect?   

I thought that was a little unfair towards retarded goats, personally. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Mr Rods uses the 'supply and demand' mantra in order to justify the obscene amount of money premier league players are paid.

Take away football and the world would still revolve as people find another way to spend ninety minutes each week. In the great scheme of things footballers contribute nothing to society. It is unimportant.

Take away all the farmers and see what happens.

Take away all the doctors, nurses, and hospitals and see what happens.

Take away all the teachers and see what happens.

Take away all the architects and engineers and see what happens.

Overpaid nancy boy footballers are like Joey Essex. He may 'entertain' some people but if he simply vanished the world would go on exactly as before.




 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Apparently Rooney was arrested on suspicion of drink driving last night. 

Now what was Lord Opti saying about footballers intellect?   

I thought that was a little unfair towards retarded goats, personally. 

Yes....I'm sure if a retarded goat was paid £300,000 a week it would score more goals than Rooney.

[Rods2]

Mr Rods uses the 'supply and demand' mantra in order to justify the obscene amount of money premier league players are paid.

Take away football and the world would still revolve as people find another way to spend ninety minutes each week. In the great scheme of things footballers contribute nothing to society. It is unimportant.

Take away all the farmers and see what happens.

Take away all the doctors, nurses, and hospitals and see what happens.

Take away all the teachers and see what happens.

Take away all the architects and engineers and see what happens.

Overpaid nancy boy footballers are like Joey Essex. He may 'entertain' some people but if he simply vanished the world would go on exactly as before.

That argument could be used to justify banning all leisure time activities and with no leisure pursuits then you might as well stop people kicking their heels by making them work 16 hours a day 7 days a week, just make sure that a significant amount of extra wealth created is spent on mental health facilities, hospitals and undertakers as these industries will expand significantly.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Mr Rods uses the 'supply and demand' mantra in order to justify the obscene amount of money premier league players are paid.

Take away football and the world would still revolve as people find another way to spend ninety minutes each week. In the great scheme of things footballers contribute nothing to society. It is unimportant.

Take away all the farmers and see what happens.

Take away all the doctors, nurses, and hospitals and see what happens.

Take away all the teachers and see what happens.

Take away all the architects and engineers and see what happens.

Overpaid nancy boy footballers are like Joey Essex. He may 'entertain' some people but if he simply vanished the world would go on exactly as before.

That argument could be used to justify banning all leisure time activities and with no leisure pursuits then you might as well stop people kicking their heels by making them work 16 hours a day 7 days a week, just make sure that a significant amount of extra wealth created is spent on mental health facilities, hospitals and undertakers as these industries will expand significantly.

Did I say ban? I don't think so.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

There are very few things I would ban.

Is it possible to ban gobby feminists?

[Lizzie Zoom]

Mr Rods uses the 'supply and demand' mantra in order to justify the obscene amount of money premier league players are paid.

Take away football and the world would still revolve as people find another way to spend ninety minutes each week. In the great scheme of things footballers contribute nothing to society. It is unimportant.

Take away all the farmers and see what happens.

Take away all the doctors, nurses, and hospitals and see what happens.

Take away all the teachers and see what happens.

Take away all the architects and engineers and see what happens.

Overpaid nancy boy footballers are like Joey Essex. He may 'entertain' some people but if he simply vanished the world would go on exactly as before.

That argument could be used to justify banning all leisure time activities and with no leisure pursuits then you might as well stop people kicking their heels by making them work 16 hours a day 7 days a week, just make sure that a significant amount of extra wealth created is spent on mental health facilities, hospitals and undertakers as these industries will expand significantly.

Yep, back to good old Victorian values, with all new work houses and lunatic asylums!

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Im pretty close to those hours at the moment.

Sat, August 26th - 12 hour dayshift
Sun. 27th 12 hour dayshift
Mon 28th - 12 hour dayshift.
Tues 29th - 15 hour nightshift
Weds 30th - 15 hour nightshift
Thurs 31st - 15 hour nightshift
Sat 2nd Sep. (today) - 12 hour dayshift
Sun, 3rd - 12 hour dayshift.
Got Mon & Tues off then.....
Weds 6th - 15 hour nightshift
Thurs 7th - 15 hour nightshift
Fri. 8th- 15 hour nightshift
Sat 9th - 12 hour nightshift
Sun 10th - 12 hour nightshift
Mon. 11th - 15 hour nightshift.

Got four days off after that - YAY. 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Yep, back to good old Victorian values, with all new work houses and lunatic asylums!

We'd be filling these as soon as we could build them!   

[Rods2]

Mr Rods uses the 'supply and demand' mantra in order to justify the obscene amount of money premier league players are paid.

Take away football and the world would still revolve as people find another way to spend ninety minutes each week. In the great scheme of things footballers contribute nothing to society. It is unimportant.

Take away all the farmers and see what happens.

Take away all the doctors, nurses, and hospitals and see what happens.

Take away all the teachers and see what happens.

Take away all the architects and engineers and see what happens.

Overpaid nancy boy footballers are like Joey Essex. He may 'entertain' some people but if he simply vanished the world would go on exactly as before.

That argument could be used to justify banning all leisure time activities and with no leisure pursuits then you might as well stop people kicking their heels by making them work 16 hours a day 7 days a week, just make sure that a significant amount of extra wealth created is spent on mental health facilities, hospitals and undertakers as these industries will expand significantly.

Yep, back to good old Victorian values, with all new work houses and lunatic asylums!

My great great grandad Joseph Mountain did very well in Victorian times, born into a very poor family but as a self-made entrepreneur in that new technology of plumbing followed by property development, he was worth the equivalent of £4m today at his peak in the 1870's, but lost much of it, where he was over extended, in the 1880's recession.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Mr Rods uses the 'supply and demand' mantra in order to justify the obscene amount of money premier league players are paid.

Take away football and the world would still revolve as people find another way to spend ninety minutes each week. In the great scheme of things footballers contribute nothing to society. It is unimportant.

Take away all the farmers and see what happens.

Take away all the doctors, nurses, and hospitals and see what happens.

Take away all the teachers and see what happens.

Take away all the architects and engineers and see what happens.

Overpaid nancy boy footballers are like Joey Essex. He may 'entertain' some people but if he simply vanished the world would go on exactly as before.

That argument could be used to justify banning all leisure time activities and with no leisure pursuits then you might as well stop people kicking their heels by making them work 16 hours a day 7 days a week, just make sure that a significant amount of extra wealth created is spent on mental health facilities, hospitals and undertakers as these industries will expand significantly.

Yep, back to good old Victorian values, with all new work houses and lunatic asylums!

My great great grandad Joseph Mountain did very well in Victorian times, born into a very poor family but as a self-made entrepreneur in that new technology of plumbing followed by property development, he was worth the equivalent of £4m today at his peak in the 1870's, but lost much of it, where he was over extended, in the 1880's recession.

Oh yes, for the right minded, fortunes could be made.  It was the age of the grafter, the one with enterprise, and of course the great self taught architects, engineers, scientists and business leaders.

However, so many "commoners", who's life circumstances had not been good, ended up as expendable "fodder" until Government regulation (very)gradually created change.