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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4839454/Cyclist-chases-cab-goads-driver-RUN-OVER.html

[Viral_Jim]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4839454/Cyclist-chases-cab-goads-driver-RUN-OVER.html

Happened in Blackpool.


Case closed 

[STEMO]

An off-his-head-on-something cyclist. I've seen them behind the wheels of a car in that state, now that is scary.

[Gaffers]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4839454/Cyclist-chases-cab-goads-driver-RUN-OVER.html

Happened in Blackpool.


Case closed 

Nuff said.   


But if you want me to justify the actions of a few "idiots on a bike"  I shall ask the same of you for the same minority of motorists

[redelitev6]

  The scary eyes give it away

[Gaffers]

Seeing as we are in the habit of having to justify every mistake and unlawful act performed by people in our tribes, have a go at this one Bigron:

https://twitter.com/veloevol/status/902808360654917632/video/1

[Gaffers]

And explain how this driver got off lightly considering the potential danger he could have caused:

http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/Drunk-HGV-driver-could-have-caused-catastrophic-disaster-after-making-a-U-turn-on-the-M6-in-Cumbria-64f9cfe6-2166-4f59-9255-afe9b7661efe-ds

Compared to this cyclist who did everything right but the police and the CPS went out of their way to convict him of a 19th century law:

http://road.cc/content/news/228582-drunk-cyclist-who-had-been-pushing-bike-was-locked-police-under-19th-century-law

[Viral_Jim]

That HGV driver is outrageous!

I'd bet my last quid that had this happened after the recent M1 crash (in the other thread) he would have been dealt with more harshly!

[Gaffers]

One would think so but Judges go by sentencing guidelines and not the public mood.

[Doctor Gollum]

One would think so but Judges go by sentencing guidelines and not the public mood.

This is a good thing.

[Gaffers]

One would think so but Judges go by sentencing guidelines and not the public mood.

This is a good thing.

Unless you were directly and adversely affected by the offense committed.  I speak here from experience.  Last weekend I was back up in Cheshire so I decided to go and see my brother's grave, lay some flowers and give it a tidy up.  It has been over 27 years but every time I go I never fail to shed a tear.  Part of that is not just the loss but the fact that his life was worth a measly 9 months in prison.  The injustice still hurts and always will.

[Doctor Gollum]

That does, understandably, add a sense of perspective.

But at the same time, would you rather a society whose justice system is run by kangeroo courts with judgements made on the basis of whim, for example where all the men in 'community' are ordered to rape a child because of some perceived misdemeanor; or one devoid of emotion, guided by precedent and the letter of the law and which occasionally appears soft in its punishment?

My simplification above is in no way meant to be an affront to your brother, or to you and your families loss. And I know you will be constantly trying to improve the system so that other similarly affected families may take some small solace in tougher/more appropriate sentences.

Sometimes the law is an ass, but it could be far, far worse.

[biggriffin]

And explain how this driver got off lightly considering the potential danger he could have caused:

http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/Drunk-HGV-driver-could-have-caused-catastrophic-disaster-after-making-a-U-turn-on-the-M6-in-Cumbria-64f9cfe6-2166-4f59-9255-afe9b7661efe-ds

 

The above should have had the book thrown at him, the case proves the law is an ass. 
And as for the mitigating circumstances, that's just a very good lawyer/qc fighting his case,hence why he got what he did, which is wrong.

[Gaffers]

That does, understandably, add a sense of perspective.

But at the same time, would you rather a society whose justice system is run by kangeroo courts with judgements made on the basis of whim, for example where all the men in 'community' are ordered to rape a child because of some perceived misdemeanor; or one devoid of emotion, guided by precedent and the letter of the law and which occasionally appears soft in its punishment?

My simplification above is in no way meant to be an affront to your brother, or to you and your families loss. And I know you will be constantly trying to improve the system so that other similarly affected families may take some small solace in tougher/more appropriate sentences.

Sometimes the law is an ass, but it could be far, far worse.

I full agree with you, I was just trying to add that element which many feel is lost in sentencing even with today's 'Victim Impact Statements' which do little to influence things imo.  I agree that the law is an ass, but so long as it is an ass of equal measure to everyone then it is ok.

Counter your statement with the public lynching of cyclist pr!ck Mr Alliston while the whole country has complete apathy toward the two cyclists who were killed, one in a hit and run, during the trial.  Like you said, the law is an ass but if it was swayed by public opinion it would be worse.

[Terbs]

Off topic slightly, but in view of a previous post, I don't know how these lawyers can sleep at nights. They defend these 'criminal acts' and the more sickening horrendous crimes that seem part of modern life, and do everything in their power to get these slimy b******s off, when in reality, they should rot in hell !!!