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[Sir Tigger KC]

.... is on manoeuvres!   

With Mother Theresa due to make a speech in Florence next week in which some say she will make the EU a multi £billion offer and the Tory Party conference coming up, there could be fireworks!   

[Bigron]

More power to his elbow - he was always playing a waiting game, allowing May to handle the hot potato and then step in after the danger had passed! 

Ron.

[Nick W]

More power to his elbow - he was always playing a waiting game, allowing May to handle the hot potato and then step in after the danger had passed! 

Ron.

I doubt Boris is capable of planning beyond the end of this week. Making him Foreign Secretary was a classic put-up-or-shut-up appointment, but he's doing what he always does when results are due: making trouble so he gets shifted somewhere else. I'm still surprised that they haven't made him Lord Boris of Piffle and Balderdash, as that would neutralise his effect and ambition.

[Lizzie Zoom]

More power to his elbow - he was always playing a waiting game, allowing May to handle the hot potato and then step in after the danger had passed! 

Ron.

I doubt Boris is capable of planning beyond the end of this week. Making him Foreign Secretary was a classic put-up-or-shut-up appointment, but he's doing what he always does when results are due: making trouble so he gets shifted somewhere else. I'm still surprised that they haven't made him Lord Boris of Piffle and Balderdash, as that would neutralise his effect and ambition.

Indeed, he is a bumbling waffler and always has been.  He actually achieved very little himself during his days as Mayor of London.  He is a stereotypical old "toff" full of bluster, and the sooner May gets rid of him the better.  Don't forget he was at the forefront of the fraudulent claim on the side of the Brexit bus that we would be better off by £350 million a week if we left.  So he has been proved to be a liar as well!!

[STEMO]

The man is a buffoon. I would be as embarrassed to have him as PM as most right-minded Americans are to have Trump as president.

[TD]

More power to his elbow - he was always playing a waiting game, allowing May to handle the hot potato and then step in after the danger had passed! 

Ron.

I doubt Boris is capable of planning beyond the end of this week. Making him Foreign Secretary was a classic put-up-or-shut-up appointment, but he's doing what he always does when results are due: making trouble so he gets shifted somewhere else. I'm still surprised that they haven't made him Lord Boris of Piffle and Balderdash, as that would neutralise his effect and ambition.

Indeed, he is a bumbling waffler and always has been.  He actually achieved very little himself during his days as Mayor of London.  He is a stereotypical old "toff" full of bluster, and the sooner May gets rid of him the better.  Don't forget he was at the forefront of the fraudulent claim on the side of the Brexit bus that we would be better off by £350 million a week if we left.  So he has been proved to be a liar as well!!

He did!
He bought all those water cannons that due elf and safety wasn't allowed to use 

[Bigron]

STEMO, I think that you underestimate both men; oh ok, maybe not Trump! 

Ron.

[Varche]

More power to his elbow - he was always playing a waiting game, allowing May to handle the hot potato and then step in after the danger had passed! 

Ron.

I doubt Boris is capable of planning beyond the end of this week. Making him Foreign Secretary was a classic put-up-or-shut-up appointment, but he's doing what he always does when results are due: making trouble so he gets shifted somewhere else. I'm still surprised that they haven't made him Lord Boris of Piffle and Balderdash, as that would neutralise his effect and ambition.

Indeed, he is a bumbling waffler and always has been.  He actually achieved very little himself during his days as Mayor of London.  He is a stereotypical old "toff" full of bluster, and the sooner May gets rid of him the better.  Don't forget he was at the forefront of the fraudulent claim on the side of the Brexit bus that we would be better off by £350 million a week if we left.  So he has been proved to be a liar as well!!

Poor choice of words there. We did actually send the Eu 350 million a week. That is what the bus said. No lie there. Your words "better off by £350 million a week" is a subtle and wrong statement as after rebates the actual figure is less but still substantial and in positive territory. Here is a BBc reality check of the actual situation (which may or may not be correct!). It doesn't alter the fact that the Uk won't be sending endless money to the EU coffers after 2019. Wait up May might be telling us next week we will be sending endless monies to still be in the single market and not at the decision making table....  There are no decent quality politcians around at the moment. That includes may and Johnson. Merkel is the exception and she will be back next week in top gear mode     http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41289080

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

The statement on the bus was technically correct, if very misleading. We don't give the EU £350 million a week net, but the part we get back has to be spent the way they say it must be spent. So we will be taking back control of £350 million per week.
It then mentioned that we should fund our NHS instead, but it didn't actually mention spending £350 million per week extra on the NHS.
Both slogans just happened to be in close proximity on the bus. 
So, no lies at all. In fact by the standards of politicians it was honest to a fault. 

[Lizzie Zoom]

More power to his elbow - he was always playing a waiting game, allowing May to handle the hot potato and then step in after the danger had passed! 

Ron.

I doubt Boris is capable of planning beyond the end of this week. Making him Foreign Secretary was a classic put-up-or-shut-up appointment, but he's doing what he always does when results are due: making trouble so he gets shifted somewhere else. I'm still surprised that they haven't made him Lord Boris of Piffle and Balderdash, as that would neutralise his effect and ambition.

Indeed, he is a bumbling waffler and always has been.  He actually achieved very little himself during his days as Mayor of London.  He is a stereotypical old "toff" full of bluster, and the sooner May gets rid of him the better.  Don't forget he was at the forefront of the fraudulent claim on the side of the Brexit bus that we would be better off by £350 million a week if we left.  So he has been proved to be a liar as well!!

Poor choice of words there. We did actually send the Eu 350 million a week. That is what the bus said. No lie there. Your words "better off by £350 million a week" is a subtle and wrong statement as after rebates the actual figure is less but still substantial and in positive territory. Here is a BBc reality check of the actual situation (which may or may not be correct!). It doesn't alter the fact that the Uk won't be sending endless money to the EU coffers after 2019. Wait up May might be telling us next week we will be sending endless monies to still be in the single market and not at the decision making table....  There are no decent quality politcians around at the moment. That includes may and Johnson. Merkel is the exception and she will be back next week in top gear mode     http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41289080

No Varche, it as you imply proved that figure was the Gross figure of our weekly contribution, but actually the Net figure after rebates was less than half that, BUT Johnson & Co did not specify that and deliberately advertised to the British public, even after it had been proved to be a "distortion of the truth", that we would have £350 million a week to spend on the NHS.  Any court in the land would deem that to be fraudulent  Johnson knew it to be a false statement that gave out an inaccurate message, so how can we trust him?; and I am a Conservative!  

[Doctor Gollum]

Stop reading the Daily Mail.

[Varche]

More power to his elbow - he was always playing a waiting game, allowing May to handle the hot potato and then step in after the danger had passed! 

Ron.

I doubt Boris is capable of planning beyond the end of this week. Making him Foreign Secretary was a classic put-up-or-shut-up appointment, but he's doing what he always does when results are due: making trouble so he gets shifted somewhere else. I'm still surprised that they haven't made him Lord Boris of Piffle and Balderdash, as that would neutralise his effect and ambition.

Indeed, he is a bumbling waffler and always has been.  He actually achieved very little himself during his days as Mayor of London.  He is a stereotypical old "toff" full of bluster, and the sooner May gets rid of him the better.  Don't forget he was at the forefront of the fraudulent claim on the side of the Brexit bus that we would be better off by £350 million a week if we left.  So he has been proved to be a liar as well!!

Poor choice of words there. We did actually send the Eu 350 million a week. That is what the bus said. No lie there. Your words "better off by £350 million a week" is a subtle and wrong statement as after rebates the actual figure is less but still substantial and in positive territory. Here is a BBc reality check of the actual situation (which may or may not be correct!). It doesn't alter the fact that the Uk won't be sending endless money to the EU coffers after 2019. Wait up May might be telling us next week we will be sending endless monies to still be in the single market and not at the decision making table....  There are no decent quality politcians around at the moment. That includes may and Johnson. Merkel is the exception and she will be back next week in top gear mode     http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41289080

No Varche, it as you imply proved that figure was the Gross figure of our weekly contribution, but actually the Net figure after rebates was less than half that, BUT Johnson & Co did not specify that and deliberately advertised to the British public, even after it had been proved to be a "distortion of the truth", that we would have £350 million a week to spend on the NHS.  Any court in the land would deem that to be fraudulent  Johnson knew it to be a false statement that gave out an inaccurate message, so how can we trust him?; and I am a Conservative!

Sad fact is we cannottrust any of the Tories including May the ultimate horse changer. Remember she presided over immigration. She was a staunch remainer.

[Lizzie Zoom]

More power to his elbow - he was always playing a waiting game, allowing May to handle the hot potato and then step in after the danger had passed! 

Ron.

I doubt Boris is capable of planning beyond the end of this week. Making him Foreign Secretary was a classic put-up-or-shut-up appointment, but he's doing what he always does when results are due: making trouble so he gets shifted somewhere else. I'm still surprised that they haven't made him Lord Boris of Piffle and Balderdash, as that would neutralise his effect and ambition.

Indeed, he is a bumbling waffler and always has been.  He actually achieved very little himself during his days as Mayor of London.  He is a stereotypical old "toff" full of bluster, and the sooner May gets rid of him the better.  Don't forget he was at the forefront of the fraudulent claim on the side of the Brexit bus that we would be better off by £350 million a week if we left.  So he has been proved to be a liar as well!!

Poor choice of words there. We did actually send the Eu 350 million a week. That is what the bus said. No lie there. Your words "better off by £350 million a week" is a subtle and wrong statement as after rebates the actual figure is less but still substantial and in positive territory. Here is a BBc reality check of the actual situation (which may or may not be correct!). It doesn't alter the fact that the Uk won't be sending endless money to the EU coffers after 2019. Wait up May might be telling us next week we will be sending endless monies to still be in the single market and not at the decision making table....  There are no decent quality politcians around at the moment. That includes may and Johnson. Merkel is the exception and she will be back next week in top gear mode     http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41289080

No Varche, it as you imply proved that figure was the Gross figure of our weekly contribution, but actually the Net figure after rebates was less than half that, BUT Johnson & Co did not specify that and deliberately advertised to the British public, even after it had been proved to be a "distortion of the truth", that we would have £350 million a week to spend on the NHS.  Any court in the land would deem that to be fraudulent  Johnson knew it to be a false statement that gave out an inaccurate message, so how can we trust him?; and I am a Conservative!

Sad fact is we cannottrust any of the Tories including May the ultimate horse changer. Remember she presided over immigration. She was a staunch remainer.

The trouble is Varche, I must admit, May has a poor record on the "success" front.  She has failed to support the police when she was Home Secretary, failing to give them, let alone maintain, the funding they need.  As PM she is still failing the police, and it is getting worse!

She certainly is pushing my faith in the Conservative Government.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

The statement on the bus was technically correct, if very misleading. We don't give the EU £350 million a week net, but the part we get back has to be spent the way they say it must be spent. So we will be taking back control of £350 million per week.
It then mentioned that we should fund our NHS instead, but it didn't actually mention spending £350 million per week extra on the NHS.
Both slogans just happened to be in close proximity on the bus. 
So, no lies at all. In fact by the standards of politicians it was honest to a fault. 

I don't remember the message on the bus saying we get £350 million back each week just as soon as we give the EU £100 billion first.

[Varche]

Three speed EU.

Eurozone

Rest of EU taking in the migrants and buying German products

UK  not a member but paying handsomely for membership of single market and filling EU coffers to boot

Everyone happy.