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Re: Watch out! It looks like Boris....
« Reply #15 on: 17 September 2017, 16:11:24 »

Oh no they are not, in that scenario.  >:(
The Tories are useless, have been since the demise of Thatcher. The alternative though, is beyond unthinkable.  :o
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Re: Watch out! It looks like Boris....
« Reply #16 on: 17 September 2017, 16:12:04 »

If anyone has forgotten, this is how the Brexit Battle Bus was seen and how it was interpreted.  Boris stood behind this statement:

http://metro.co.uk/2017/04/27/boris-johnson-stands-by-350million-vote-leave-bus-message-6600240/

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Re: Watch out! It looks like Boris....
« Reply #17 on: 17 September 2017, 16:22:05 »

The slogan is absolutely true. We do send the EU £350 million a week. It says lets fund our NHS instead. It doesn't mention spending £350 million a week extra on the NHS.
We do get some of the £350 million back, but we are not allowed to have control on how its spent. So, in theory, we could have an extra £350 million a week to spend on the NHS, but obviously that will never happen.
In political terms, it borders on honesty, in comparison to the usual downright lies we are served, and nowhere near as dishonest as many of the downright lies we got from the other side.
Doesn't matter now anyway, the outcome is what it is and as a country, we need to get on with it.
Cast our eyes toward the seas, as I believe Churchill said.  :)
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Re: Watch out! It looks like Boris....
« Reply #18 on: 17 September 2017, 16:32:52 »

The slogan is absolutely true. We do send the EU £350 million a week. It says lets fund our NHS instead. It doesn't mention spending £350 million a week extra on the NHS.
We do get some of the £350 million back, but we are not allowed to have control on how its spent. So, in theory, we could have an extra £350 million a week to spend on the NHS, but obviously that will never happen.
In political terms, it borders on honesty, in comparison to the usual downright lies we are served, and nowhere near as dishonest as many of the downright lies we got from the other side.
Doesn't matter now anyway, the outcome is what it is and as a country, we need to get on with it.
Cast our eyes toward the seas, as I believe Churchill said.  :)

True.....but the implication is that the £350 million we get back will go to the NHS. It is misleading......deliberately so.
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Re: Watch out! It looks like Boris....
« Reply #19 on: 17 September 2017, 16:43:59 »

lets not get back into the nitty gritty otherwise someone will be dredging up Project Fear next and all the lies that turned out to be.

Any truth in the story doing the rounds that Cameron is coming back to lead the party and the country back into the EU we never left ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Watch out! It looks like Boris....
« Reply #20 on: 17 September 2017, 16:56:29 »

The slogan is absolutely true. We do send the EU £350 million a week. It says lets fund our NHS instead. It doesn't mention spending £350 million a week extra on the NHS.
We do get some of the £350 million back, but we are not allowed to have control on how its spent. So, in theory, we could have an extra £350 million a week to spend on the NHS, but obviously that will never happen.
In political terms, it borders on honesty, in comparison to the usual downright lies we are served, and nowhere near as dishonest as many of the downright lies we got from the other side.
Doesn't matter now anyway, the outcome is what it is and as a country, we need to get on with it.
Cast our eyes toward the seas, as I believe Churchill said.  :)

True.....but the implication is that the £350 million we get back will go to the NHS. It is misleading......deliberately so.

Folk should be aware that you cant trust a cast iron gaurantee from politicians (remember them from Cameron and Blair) so believing an implication................. ::)
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Re: Watch out! It looks like Boris....
« Reply #21 on: 17 September 2017, 16:58:01 »

lets not get back into the nitty gritty otherwise someone will be dredging up Project Fear next and all the lies that turned out to be.

Any truth in the story doing the rounds that Cameron is coming back to lead the party and the country back into the EU we never left ;D ;D ;D

And Blair coming back to Labour to save the country from itself. Its laughable fantasy, but Corbyn almost got to number 10, and May is still there, so anything could happen.  ;D
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Re: Watch out! It looks like Boris....
« Reply #22 on: 17 September 2017, 17:08:41 »

The statement on the bus was just a suggestion of what we could do with the money that we (hopefully) won't be sending to Brussels when we have actually left the EU.  ::)

1) It was never a commitment or a promise.  How anyone can construe that statement 'Lets fund our NHS instead!' as such, is so stupid that they should go immediately to the top of TB's cull list!  ::)

2) Also it seems that many of these retards have been of the opinion that the £350m a week would be handed over to the NHS straight after the referendum, even before we have left the EU!  :o  These people should be fast tracked to the top of TB's list!  ::)

TB will be a very busy boy and will probably have to charge people for their bullets, as there will be too many to be funded by the taxpayer!  ::)  ;D

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Re: Watch out! It looks like Boris....
« Reply #23 on: 17 September 2017, 18:00:41 »

The statement on the bus was just a suggestion of what we could do with the money that we (hopefully) won't be sending to Brussels when we have actually left the EU.  ::)

1) It was never a commitment or a promise.  How anyone can construe that statement 'Lets fund our NHS instead!' as such, is so stupid that they should go immediately to the top of TB's cull list!  ::)

2) Also it seems that many of these retards have been of the opinion that the £350m a week would be handed over to the NHS straight after the referendum, even before we have left the EU!  :o  These people should be fast tracked to the top of TB's list!  ::)

TB will be a very busy boy and will probably have to charge people for their bullets, as there will be too many to be funded by the taxpayer!  ::)  ;D


He could always ask the NHS to contribute. ;)
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Re: Watch out! It looks like Boris....
« Reply #24 on: 17 September 2017, 18:03:52 »

Ok, I singled out the Daily Fail, but in reality, people should stop treating the self defecating lefties carrot munching media (social or otherwise) as news.

It is nothing more than shit stirring propaganda designed to disrupt and annoy.

I am all for free press, but the rubbish foisted upon us is in no way free in the intended sense ie free of bias, spin or influence. As such it should be silenced out of existence.

Just saying.
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Re: Watch out! It looks like Boris....
« Reply #25 on: 17 September 2017, 18:08:35 »

You think the Daily Mail is left wing ? ! Or did I read it wrong ?  :-\
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Re: Watch out! It looks like Boris....
« Reply #26 on: 17 September 2017, 18:32:29 »

The statement on the bus was just a suggestion of what we could do with the money that we (hopefully) won't be sending to Brussels when we have actually left the EU.  ::)

1) It was never a commitment or a promise.  How anyone can construe that statement 'Lets fund our NHS instead!' as such, is so stupid that they should go immediately to the top of TB's cull list!  ::)

2) Also it seems that many of these retards have been of the opinion that the £350m a week would be handed over to the NHS straight after the referendum, even before we have left the EU!  :o  These people should be fast tracked to the top of TB's list!  ::)

TB will be a very busy boy and will probably have to charge people for their bullets, as there will be too many to be funded by the taxpayer!  ::)  ;D


And that is exactly how the Brexiteers did it; the majority a high proportion of the voting public are stupid and will believe anything that seems "so good", hence we are now in a Brexit situation.  Those people were coned as they were fooled by Johnson & Co.

That is why  I, and now a growing number of others are hoping for a second referendum.  We need a chance to vote on facts, not promises and false hope.  The young know that, and opinion surveys are now suggesting a majority wanting a second vote. This will be a growing movement leading up to March 2019 ;)

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Re: Watch out! It looks like Boris....
« Reply #27 on: 17 September 2017, 18:59:07 »

You think the Daily Mail is left wing ? ! Or did I read it wrong ?  :-\
It isn't especially, but no less contemptible that the rest ;)
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Re: Watch out! It looks like Boris....
« Reply #28 on: 17 September 2017, 18:59:16 »

...............and today the BBC have reported Johnson has repeated his claim that the UK will be a full £350 million per week better off when we leave!

FFS!!! >:( >:( >:(
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Re: Watch out! It looks like Boris....
« Reply #29 on: 17 September 2017, 18:59:55 »

Actually Lizzie, I think that most of the complaints about the slogan on Boris's bus have come from embittered 'remainers'.  ::)

I voted leave and don't regret it in the slightest and I don't know anybody else who voted for Britain to leave the EU who regrets it either, especially now that we have seen how the EU are conducting themselves in the 'Negotiations' and how they are now open about their ambitions for the United States of Europe!  ;)

The idea that there is any sort of appetite for a second referendum is fantasy, in fact most opinion polls show that the British public accept BREXIT and just want the government to get on with it!   :y
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