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Re: Taking the NCDC 2013 CDC apart
« Reply #15 on: 24 September 2017, 12:31:34 »

Thanks Zirk, I may drop you a PM. I bought some boxes anyway, only £1.60.

Yes I donít want to use CDC, only get aux input, to then use a Bluetooth adaptor.

So I can use just left and right input? And Earth

Stupid question, as I donít want the CDC can I not unplug the loom from CDC, discard the cdc unit and solder the L/R input to the pins on the plug? No it talks to the Main HU as a CD Unit, ie, when you switch it to CD your get the Audio from your Aux Device, Guessing if you unplugged altogether the HU wont like it but never tried that.
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Re: Taking the NCDC 2013 CDC apart
« Reply #16 on: 24 September 2017, 12:37:22 »

Once you've done the Mod, just treat it the same as you did on the Green Mig, ie, short fly lead sticking out somewhere under the HU.  ;)

Or if you want BT, someone on here did a nice neat Mod by using a BT Module in the Ash Tray  :y but I cant remember who it was now and also assuming you can find an Ash Tray that actually works.  ;D
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Re: Taking the NCDC 2013 CDC apart
« Reply #17 on: 24 September 2017, 13:28:16 »

Going to experiment with BT  :y

I've got a few of these in the garage: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RCA_connector I'll rip them apart and discard the yellow video leads. Would these be suitable?

So as per discussions above, I don't want/need the CDC, only aux input. So following that Russian guide, can I just intercept the L/R, cut them on 1 on 4 and attach the L/R from RCA cables directly?  Leaving the ones coming from the loom connector just blank/taped off?

What should I use as an earth  :-\

Sorry for daft questions, can you tell I don't actually do proper work.  ;D ;D
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Re: Taking the NCDC 2013 CDC apart
« Reply #18 on: 24 September 2017, 13:34:08 »

 ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Taking the NCDC 2013 CDC apart
« Reply #19 on: 24 September 2017, 18:45:55 »

It's an easy enough job Tunnie, hardest part is extracting the NCDC if it hasn't been out before.

You can split the unit as per the guide I wrote some time ago, you need to keep the CDC unit as the HU coding ring is located there.

A bit of careful cutting with a Stanley knife blade will allow you to extract the correct cables 1,4 and 8, 8 being the Earth which you would solder to both of the shielding on your L & R shielded cable. Make sure you solder to the extracted L & R from the headunit - sounds obvious but when you have it apart you do have think about that!

I did a variation of the above and also linked back to the CDC using a DPDT switch so you can select either source and then fitted an MP3 player in the ashtray.

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Re: Taking the NCDC 2013 CDC apart
« Reply #20 on: 24 September 2017, 18:54:29 »

It's an easy enough job Tunnie, hardest part is extracting the NCDC if it hasn't been out before.

Thanks  :y :y :y :y

Well a fatty admin did take out the current unit, so hopefully no big issues.

Also I am working on my spare in the garage first  :)

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You can split the unit as per the guide I wrote some time ago, you need to keep the CDC unit as the HU coding ring is located there.

Thanks, I did wonder, but wanted to ask the question if it was required.  :y

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A bit of careful cutting with a Stanley knife blade will allow you to extract the correct cables 1,4 and 8, 8 being the Earth which you would solder to both of the shielding on your L & R shielded cable. Make sure you solder to the extracted L & R from the headunit - sounds obvious but when you have it apart you do have think about that!

I feel I can do this, dug out a soldering iron. The pictures on the Russian guide and diagram now make sense. One thing though, what would you recommend for L/R cables? Where would you source these? I was thinking Maplins (not the cheapest I know)

I would want to split the CDC loom and connect to this which I've ordered https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01AOVBH88

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I did a variation of the above and also linked back to the CDC using a DPDT switch so you can select either source and then fitted an MP3 player in the ashtray.

I plan to connect it to this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01KZ1S46A

As I like bluetooth wireless streaming, as I like to use Spotify in the car.

I'll tuck this and hide it around the back, or maybe hack the ash tray. Yours looks excellent.  :y
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Re: Taking the NCDC 2013 CDC apart
« Reply #21 on: 24 September 2017, 18:56:52 »

Granted I could not use that jack box, instead connect earth to both L/R sections.  :-\

Save a jack connection and would make it more simple.

Not sure what cables/wires to use for this  :-\
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Re: Taking the NCDC 2013 CDC apart
« Reply #22 on: 24 September 2017, 19:19:00 »

Stupid question, as I donít want the CDC can I not unplug the loom from CDC, discard the cdc unit and solder the L/R input to the pins on the plug?
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Re: Taking the NCDC 2013 CDC apart
« Reply #23 on: 24 September 2017, 19:22:07 »

The MP3 player I have in the ashtray supports Bluetooth connectivity although I never use it, just have my music on a few memory cards.

That Bluetooth module looks OK, i'd just put it above the kickpanel by the glovebox if there's no need to touch the unit - there's an ignition switched 12V feed available there from the phone prewiring as well.
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Re: Taking the NCDC 2013 CDC apart
« Reply #24 on: 24 September 2017, 19:23:43 »

If you haven't got a rear blind you could mount a 3.5mm jack in the blank switch cover. Saw this done on a Vectra C and it looked very neat.
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Re: Taking the NCDC 2013 CDC apart
« Reply #25 on: 24 September 2017, 19:36:06 »

If you haven't got a rear blind you could mount a 3.5mm jack in the blank switch cover. Saw this done on a Vectra C and it looked very neat.

Yes saw that setup, tempted, but I prefer wireless with bluetooth  :y
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Re: Taking the NCDC 2013 CDC apart
« Reply #26 on: 24 September 2017, 19:36:23 »

Stupid question, as I donít want the CDC can I not unplug the loom from CDC, discard the cdc unit and solder the L/R input to the pins on the plug?
No

Thanks, had a feeling that would be too easy!
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Re: Taking the NCDC 2013 CDC apart
« Reply #27 on: 24 September 2017, 19:42:17 »

PM replied to, sorry been busy all weekend. Hope it clarifies.
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Re: Taking the NCDC 2013 CDC apart
« Reply #28 on: 24 September 2017, 19:48:25 »

PM replied to, sorry been busy all weekend. Hope it clarifies.

No worries, thanks for taking the time  :y

Got a load of bits on order, but need to go to Maplins for some audio cable for use on the CDC loom.

Basically going to follow the Russian guide  :)
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Re: Taking the NCDC 2013 CDC apart
« Reply #29 on: 24 September 2017, 20:31:04 »

PM replied to, sorry been busy all weekend. Hope it clarifies.

No worries, thanks for taking the time  :y

Got a load of bits on order, but need to go to Maplins for some audio cable for use on the CDC loom.

Basically going to follow the Russian guide  :)
The White / Red leads on the RCA cable you mentioned should be fine to use.  ;)
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