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Avatars on Photobucket
« on: 01 October 2017, 13:18:32 »

If you host your Avatar on Photobucket, and are impacted by there recent policy change about using on 3rd party websites, can you modify your avatar so it isn't hosted on Photobucket.

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Re: Avatars on Photobucket
« Reply #1 on: 01 October 2017, 13:21:33 »

How come some peoples are affected and some arn't?  :-\
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Re: Avatars on Photobucket
« Reply #2 on: 01 October 2017, 13:24:30 »

Rumor has it, Drop Box is doing the same,

"Important changes to the Dropbox public folder
As of September 1, 2017 public links have been disabled for all users. See below for more information."
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Re: Avatars on Photobucket
« Reply #3 on: 01 October 2017, 13:27:25 »

How come some peoples are affected and some arn't?  :-\
I think it depends how old your account is or how long the Image has been hosted, mine still works, but if I try and post a new one for public view no dice, guessing they will get around to barring the image sooner or later.
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Re: Avatars on Photobucket
« Reply #4 on: 01 October 2017, 13:35:15 »

They've really screwed the forums.  I was searching the BMW forums for info on how to change my sub frame bushes and most of the photos have gone.  :(  I'm sure it's the same here.  :-\

I guess at the end of the day the free service funded by adverts wasn't working.  They had so many adverts on Photobucket the the site was almost unusable!  ::)
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Re: Avatars on Photobucket
« Reply #5 on: 01 October 2017, 13:37:11 »

I've tried to change mine to an image on Postimage .... but unsuccessfully  :(
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Re: Avatars on Photobucket
« Reply #6 on: 01 October 2017, 13:44:44 »

They've really screwed the forums.  I was searching the BMW forums for info on how to change my sub frame bushes and most of the photos have gone.  :(  I'm sure it's the same here.  :-\

I guess at the end of the day the free service funded by adverts wasn't working.  They had so many adverts on Photobucket the the site was almost unusable! ::)
Yep it almost ground to a halt on my lappy.  >:(

I started using pClould for Advert free Public image hosting, but hey, guess what theve just brought out new feature called Public Folder which is a paid for option.

I do find on a lot of personal Cloud Images if you open the Image File within your Browser then click and copy the Image Address directly that should work as a public link (Not Photobucket) but for how long for?

example here - http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=140368.0
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Re: Avatars on Photobucket
« Reply #7 on: 01 October 2017, 18:01:54 »

How come some peoples are affected and some arn't?  :-\

I deleted most of my files on Photobucket when they would not allow 3rd party postings, and immediately I lost my avatar on OOF.

Have not bothered since, as one effort to use another hosting site proved too complicated and just would not do what I wanted.  My life is too short to worry about such things. 

No doubt some clever, enterprising soul will see a glaring opportunity to make hosting work without charging for the privilege, and make good money out of it.  Richard Branson / Virgin Media, are you listening? :D :D ;)
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Re: Avatars on Photobucket
« Reply #8 on: 01 October 2017, 21:58:26 »

How come some peoples are affected and some arn't?  :-\

I deleted most of my files on Photobucket when they would not allow 3rd party postings, and immediately I lost my avatar on OOF.

Have not bothered since, as one effort to use another hosting site proved too complicated and just would not do what I wanted.  My life is too short to worry about such things. 

No doubt some clever, enterprising soul will see a glaring opportunity to make hosting work without charging for the privilege, and make good money out of it.  Richard Branson / Virgin Media, are you listening? :D :D ;)

Unlikely as people use advert blockers or don't click on adverts which they need to pay the bills. :( Online newspapers are going over to using videos with adverts as it defeats advert blockers and works as a better income stream, but how much more effective it is, I don't know?
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Re: Avatars on Photobucket
« Reply #9 on: 01 October 2017, 22:18:35 »

They've really screwed the forums.  I was searching the BMW forums for info on how to change my sub frame bushes and most of the photos have gone.  :(  I'm sure it's the same here.  :-\

I guess at the end of the day the free service funded by adverts wasn't working.  They had so many adverts on Photobucket the the site was almost unusable!  ::)
As this was always going to happen, we made sure from the outset that our official guides have their images served from our own images server :)
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Re: Avatars on Photobucket
« Reply #10 on: 01 October 2017, 22:51:06 »

They've really screwed the forums.  I was searching the BMW forums for info on how to change my sub frame bushes and most of the photos have gone.  :(  I'm sure it's the same here.  :-\

I guess at the end of the day the free service funded by adverts wasn't working.  They had so many adverts on Photobucket the the site was almost unusable!  ::)
As this was always going to happen, we made sure from the outset that our official guides have their images served from our own images server :)

Clever buggers!  :y
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Re: Avatars on Photobucket
« Reply #11 on: 01 October 2017, 22:52:42 »

They've really screwed the forums.  I was searching the BMW forums for info on how to change my sub frame bushes and most of the photos have gone.  :(  I'm sure it's the same here.  :-\

I guess at the end of the day the free service funded by adverts wasn't working.  They had so many adverts on Photobucket the the site was almost unusable!  ::)
As this was always going to happen, we made sure from the outset that our official guides have their images served from our own images server :)
Plus OOF images have a water mark ( although you cant really see it) for copy right reasons.  :)
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Re: Avatars on Photobucket
« Reply #12 on: 02 October 2017, 10:29:22 »

They've really screwed the forums.  I was searching the BMW forums for info on how to change my sub frame bushes and most of the photos have gone.  :(  I'm sure it's the same here.  :-\

I guess at the end of the day the free service funded by adverts wasn't working.  They had so many adverts on Photobucket the the site was almost unusable!  ::)
As this was always going to happen, we made sure from the outset that our official guides have their images served from our own images server :)

Now I am going to ask this TB with my usual ignorance about PC operating systems and them talking to each other, but here goes:

I am about to use Moonpig yet again and use my images online and place them on the card of my choice.  I browse my photos, and post onto the Moonpig product.  Is there a way that we could use our own photo libraries and post them direct on OOF?  :-\ :-\ :-\ ;)
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Re: Avatars on Photobucket
« Reply #13 on: 02 October 2017, 10:45:54 »

They've really screwed the forums.  I was searching the BMW forums for info on how to change my sub frame bushes and most of the photos have gone.  :(  I'm sure it's the same here.  :-\

I guess at the end of the day the free service funded by adverts wasn't working.  They had so many adverts on Photobucket the the site was almost unusable!  ::)
As this was always going to happen, we made sure from the outset that our official guides have their images served from our own images server :)

Now I am going to ask this TB with my usual ignorance about PC operating systems and them talking to each other, but here goes:

I am about to use Moonpig yet again and use my images online and place them on the card of my choice.  I browse my photos, and post onto the Moonpig product.  Is there a way that we could use our own photo libraries and post them direct on OOF?  :-\ :-\ :-\ ;)

Without stealing TB's thunder, and not wishing to "intrude" ... simple reason Lizzie is "cost" both financially and physically. To "store" photo libraries in any decent resolution requires large amounts of disk space, and equally large amount of "back up" disk space.

All these "free" image hosting sites pay for the storage requirements by adverts, we now use adblockers or simply ignore adverts, so their income has dried up and they are now charging to cover the hardware costs ... on OOF we pay for nothing, so an additional cost of large storage volumes and back up volumes would have to come from somewhere (and we haven't even mentioned the cost of systems/electricity or the large amount of time TB must spend nurturing the system) etc etc.

With some 14866 registered accounts to give even 1 GB of storage to everyone would need some very large, and expensive disks. I know many accounts are "dormant" but my guess is the software would not differentiate between active and dormant and would need to provide the same for all, I'm probably wrong but it gives an idea of the scale, hopefully.

Just my POV, TB will no doubt prove me wrong ...  :)
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Re: Avatars on Photobucket
« Reply #14 on: 02 October 2017, 11:09:52 »

They've really screwed the forums.  I was searching the BMW forums for info on how to change my sub frame bushes and most of the photos have gone.  :(  I'm sure it's the same here.  :-\

I guess at the end of the day the free service funded by adverts wasn't working.  They had so many adverts on Photobucket the the site was almost unusable!  ::)
As this was always going to happen, we made sure from the outset that our official guides have their images served from our own images server :)

Now I am going to ask this TB with my usual ignorance about PC operating systems and them talking to each other, but here goes:

I am about to use Moonpig yet again and use my images online and place them on the card of my choice.  I browse my photos, and post onto the Moonpig product.  Is there a way that we could use our own photo libraries and post them direct on OOF?  :-\ :-\ :-\ ;)

Without stealing TB's thunder, and not wishing to "intrude" ... simple reason Lizzie is "cost" both financially and physically. To "store" photo libraries in any decent resolution requires large amounts of disk space, and equally large amount of "back up" disk space.

All these "free" image hosting sites pay for the storage requirements by adverts, we now use adblockers or simply ignore adverts, so their income has dried up and they are now charging to cover the hardware costs ... on OOF we pay for nothing, so an additional cost of large storage volumes and back up volumes would have to come from somewhere (and we haven't even mentioned the cost of systems/electricity or the large amount of time TB must spend nurturing the system) etc etc.

With some 14866 registered accounts to give even 1 GB of storage to everyone would need some very large, and expensive disks. I know many accounts are "dormant" but my guess is the software would not differentiate between active and dormant and would need to provide the same for all, I'm probably wrong but it gives an idea of the scale, hopefully.

Just my POV, TB will no doubt prove me wrong ...  :)

Many thanks Entwood! 8) 8) :y :y

I had a niggling feeling it would come down to cost, although I was unsure if it could even be done. :-* :-*
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Re: Avatars on Photobucket
« Reply #15 on: 02 October 2017, 17:54:47 »

They've really screwed the forums.  I was searching the BMW forums for info on how to change my sub frame bushes and most of the photos have gone.  :(  I'm sure it's the same here.  :-\

I guess at the end of the day the free service funded by adverts wasn't working.  They had so many adverts on Photobucket the the site was almost unusable!  ::)
As this was always going to happen, we made sure from the outset that our official guides have their images served from our own images server :)
Plus OOF images have a water mark ( although you cant really see it) for copy right reasons.  :)
Theoretically speaking, that might have happened some time after, due to a handful of members trying to start their own Omega forum and trying to nick our guides in the process.  Even more blatant than that was the fact that, to save their own costs involved in storage and transit, they served those images from our platform, in essence, we were paying for some members to start up their own, competing forums.

Also, theoretically speaking, the Admin Team was not best pleased! ;D
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Re: Avatars on Photobucket
« Reply #16 on: 02 October 2017, 18:07:05 »

I had a niggling feeling it would come down to cost, although I was unsure if it could even be done. :-* :-*
What Entwood says is pretty much on the nail, bar some of the calculations, but due to the (completely unique) way we are set up, there would also be a couple of complex technical issues to work around as well.


Cost wise to add that required amount of storage isn't quite as simple as Entwood suggested either, as it would mean replicating that data in the same way we replicate the OOF database, which would mean the storage being needed on 3 servers here in TB Towers, and on a remote server in a geographically diverse location, plus the network bandwidth between them (which is no issue here, being a cross between 10Gbps and 1Gbps, but to our remote site, this could be a problem.  Then there is tape capacity, which our ageing LTO-5 cannot provide much of.
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« Reply #17 on: 02 October 2017, 19:35:20 »

I had a niggling feeling it would come down to cost, although I was unsure if it could even be done. :-* :-*
What Entwood says is pretty much on the nail, bar some of the calculations, but due to the (completely unique) way we are set up, there would also be a couple of complex technical issues to work around as well.


Cost wise to add that required amount of storage isn't quite as simple as Entwood suggested either, as it would mean replicating that data in the same way we replicate the OOF database, which would mean the storage being needed on 3 servers here in TB Towers, and on a remote server in a geographically diverse location, plus the network bandwidth between them (which is no issue here, being a cross between 10Gbps and 1Gbps, but to our remote site, this could be a problem.  Then there is tape capacity, which our ageing LTO-5 cannot provide much of.

Thanks for explaining that TB :y
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Re: Avatars on Photobucket
« Reply #18 on: 02 October 2017, 22:02:39 »

Plus OOF images have a water mark ( although you cant really see it) for copy right reasons.  :)
Theoretically speaking, that might have happened some time after, due to a handful of members trying to start their own Omega forum and trying to nick our guides in the process.  Even more blatant than that was the fact that, to save their own costs involved in storage and transit, they served those images from our platform, in essence, we were paying for some members to start up their own, competing forums.

Also, theoretically speaking, the Admin Team was not best pleased! ;D
Yea, I vaguely remember that, think it was around 2009, cheeky buggers, shame they didnt ask you if they could mount there Forum on your Server, least that way you could have taken them down quicker.  ;D
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