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Paging Rods2 to General Discussion
« on: 05 March 2018, 18:44:45 »

This one should be your area of expertise:

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-russia/former-russian-spy-critically-ill-after-exposure-to-substance-in-uk-bbc-idUKKBN1GH2V6?il=0

Interested to see what Ms Weak n Wobbly does about it. My bet is fark n all.  ::)
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Re: Paging Rods2 to General Discussion
« Reply #1 on: 05 March 2018, 20:51:51 »

You can't beat a nice cup of polonium tea to keep warm in the cold weather!  ::)
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« Reply #2 on: 05 March 2018, 22:53:40 »



There will be an investigation, the press will speculate like made. The story will die down. Some conclusion may be made. The Russians will stonewall and say "nyet", and nothing will happen. There ya go . . . .



 
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« Reply #3 on: 05 March 2018, 23:20:22 »



There will be an investigation, the press will speculate like made. The story will die down. Some conclusion may be made. The Russians will stonewall and say "nyet", and nothing will happen. There ya go . . . .

Obviously "Mad" not "Made" . . . . . .
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Re: Paging Rods2 to General Discussion
« Reply #4 on: 06 March 2018, 00:25:49 »



There will be an investigation, the press will speculate like made. The story will die down. Some conclusion may be made. The Russians will stonewall and say "nyet", and nothing will happen. There ya go . . . .

Yup. If only we were the “global power” like some in here believe, we’d be doing something about foreign Powers killing people on our streets. But we aren’t. So we’ll sit quietly by and take our medicine like good little islanders.

Sorry, that probably counts as talking down the UK  ::)
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« Reply #5 on: 06 March 2018, 01:48:13 »

Putin is a former FSB (KGB) Colonel and once a Soviet Checkist always a Checkist. Russia (Putin) has got much more aggressive over traitors over the last 10 years and generally deals with them in normal Checkist fashion very vindictive in what is known as Checkist 'wetwork'. What is much more alarming this has not only included Russian 'dissidents' but also UK citizens where they have helped and prospered from the 'dissidents' fraud/wealth creating activities that have p*ssed off Putin. The worry is that the UK government has the IMO unacceptable attitude it's about 'the money'. In other words as long as UK PLC and politicians are benefiting from massive corruption and money laundering through one of the global money laundering capitals of the world London they will turn a blind eye to it. Personally, I think this is very, very dangerous and could get out of hand and does the UK's global standing and corruption index no favours at all. :( :( :(

Putin is an aggressive bloodthirsty murdering tyrant who has been involved with the deaths of ~0.5m people in Chechnya, Syria and Ukraine. Appeasement, like with Stalin and Hitler only encourages him and also makes him bolder and more reckless where he is currently adding (for his own survival and ends) to global instability, which includes providing DPRK with their ICBM and nukes technology. >:( >:( >:( We have already had the major miscalculation and mass murder of innocent passengers with MH17, his future miscalculations, like Hitlers maybe much, much worse. >:( >:( >:(
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Re: Paging Rods2 to General Discussion
« Reply #6 on: 06 March 2018, 08:23:30 »



There will be an investigation, the press will speculate like made. The story will die down. Some conclusion may be made. The Russians will stonewall and say "nyet", and nothing will happen. There ya go . . . .

Yup. If only we were the “global power” like some in here believe, we’d be doing something about foreign Powers killing people on our streets. But we aren’t. So we’ll sit quietly by and take our medicine like good little islanders.

Sorry, that probably counts as talking down the UK  ::)

We probably don't want anyone to look too closely into the times we've done the same thing...
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Re: Paging Rods2 to General Discussion
« Reply #7 on: 06 March 2018, 10:20:28 »

Putin is a former FSB (KGB) Colonel and once a Soviet Checkist always a Checkist. Russia (Putin) has got much more aggressive over traitors over the last 10 years and generally deals with them in normal Checkist fashion very vindictive in what is known as Checkist 'wetwork'. What is much more alarming this has not only included Russian 'dissidents' but also UK citizens where they have helped and prospered from the 'dissidents' fraud/wealth creating activities that have p*ssed off Putin. The worry is that the UK government has the IMO unacceptable attitude it's about 'the money'. In other words as long as UK PLC and politicians are benefiting from massive corruption and money laundering through one of the global money laundering capitals of the world London they will turn a blind eye to it. Personally, I think this is very, very dangerous and could get out of hand and does the UK's global standing and corruption index no favours at all. :( :( :(

Putin is an aggressive bloodthirsty murdering tyrant who has been involved with the deaths of ~0.5m people in Chechnya, Syria and Ukraine. Appeasement, like with Stalin and Hitler only encourages him and also makes him bolder and more reckless where he is currently adding (for his own survival and ends) to global instability, which includes providing DPRK with their ICBM and nukes technology. >:( >:( >:( We have already had the major miscalculation and mass murder of innocent passengers with MH17, his future miscalculations, like Hitlers maybe much, much worse. >:( >:( >:(


I agree, as usual, with your great assessment of Putin, but he, on his actions to date is nothing like Hitler and will not make manic
miscalculations as he did, only very clever ones :y
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« Reply #8 on: 06 March 2018, 10:39:18 »

Any one individual who can clearly and reliably manipulate the bulk of their population by whatever means that they feel appropriate and all for their personal gain, be that wealth or power, could never be described as manic...

Sure, Putins numbers are a fraction of Hitlers, but rest assured, as individuals they are fruit from the same tree...
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« Reply #9 on: 06 March 2018, 12:46:22 »

Any one individual who can clearly and reliably manipulate the bulk of their population by whatever means that they feel appropriate and all for their personal gain, be that wealth or power, could never be described as manic...

Sure, Putins numbers are a fraction of Hitlers, but rest assured, as individuals they are fruit from the same tree...

Well that is a relief then.  :y
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Re: Paging Rods2 to General Discussion
« Reply #10 on: 06 March 2018, 12:48:16 »

Any one individual who can clearly and reliably manipulate the bulk of their population by whatever means that they feel appropriate and all for their personal gain, be that wealth or power, could never be described as manic...

Sure, Putins numbers are a fraction of Hitlers, but rest assured, as individuals they are fruit from the same tree...

Hitler was manic as per the definition in his day to day actions : showing wild, apparently deranged, excitement and energy.
"a manic grin"
synonyms:   mad, insane, deranged, demented, maniacal, lunatic, crazed, wild, demonic, demoniacal, hysterical, raving, neurotic, unhinged, unbalanced


All accounts of Hitler generally including him ranting like a lunatic, and unsettling all around him.

The great Field Marshal Erwin Rommel once stated, Fraser.D Knight's Cross: A Life of Field Marshall Erwin Rommel HarperCollins (1994) p.382 that Hitler "was a lunatic, determined from sheer obstinacy on a course which would lead to the loss of the last German soldier and, one day, to the total destruction of Germany."     This was after Rommel had initially praised the man in 1934 after first meeting him.  During the days after Rommel's Afrika Korps defeat at El Alamein in November 1942 Rommel witnessed Hitler's erratic and delusional behavior, with decisions that defied logical military practice.  The usually very careful and measured Field Marshal was heard to shout out aloud (p.382) " The Fuhrer must be a complete lunatic"  This was a very bold, but highly dangerous statement, but it echoed what many wehrmacht Generals believed by then, with the wrong / manic decisions being made by Hitler over the Russian campaign and privately they admitted the war was lost, as revealed by historians research since WW2.  Many senior military commanders also witnessed Hitler's manic ranting and raving, but could say little without the very real risk of being shot. 

When Hitler's whole approach and ideology is taken into account, with his beliefs that whole sections of humanity should be eliminated, along with his wild fantasy on how Germany and the whole World should look, in the realms of ideology, architecture, and general way of life in a complete totalitarian state after war's end within the Third Reich, and after reading and watching much evidence of the reality of the overall situation it is clear Hitler was a madman, a lunatic, completely manic, who had a gift to hypnotize people into conforming to and delivering his wishes.  By April 1945 all those who had contact with Hitler in the Fuhrerbunker, Berlin would only confirm he was the lunatic to the end, and hundreds of thousands died, in addition to the 56 million up to that point, unnecessarily due to that. ;)   
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« Reply #11 on: 06 March 2018, 13:16:16 »

If somebody backed Putin into a corner, then I very much doubt his reaction would be any different.

Thus far, he hasn't been cornered, and don't forget, he made himself President, so I doubt he would lose a seconds sleep over cleansing entire countries if his needs demanded it.

Incidentally, one of the futilities of war is that large numbers of people die needlessly. Also, I very much doubt that Hitlers suicide was out of guilt, he was cold and calculating to the end. Much like Putin...
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« Reply #12 on: 06 March 2018, 13:38:18 »

Any one individual who can clearly and reliably manipulate the bulk of their population by whatever means that they feel appropriate and all for their personal gain, be that wealth or power, could never be described as manic...

Sure, Putins numbers are a fraction of Hitlers, but rest assured, as individuals they are fruit from the same tree...

Hitler was manic as per the definition in his day to day actions : showing wild, apparently deranged, excitement and energy.
"a manic grin"
synonyms:   mad, insane, deranged, demented, maniacal, lunatic, crazed, wild, demonic, demoniacal, hysterical, raving, neurotic, unhinged, unbalanced


All accounts of Hitler generally including him ranting like a lunatic, and unsettling all around him.

The great Field Marshal Erwin Rommel once stated, Fraser.D Knight's Cross: A Life of Field Marshall Erwin Rommel HarperCollins (1994) p.382 that Hitler "was a lunatic, determined from sheer obstinacy on a course which would lead to the loss of the last German soldier and, one day, to the total destruction of Germany."     This was after Rommel had initially praised the man in 1934 after first meeting him.  During the days after Rommel's Afrika Korps defeat at El Alamein in November 1942 Rommel witnessed Hitler's erratic and delusional behavior, with decisions that defied logical military practice.  The usually very careful and measured Field Marshal was heard to shout out aloud (p.382) " The Fuhrer must be a complete lunatic"  This was a very bold, but highly dangerous statement, but it echoed what many wehrmacht Generals believed by then, with the wrong / manic decisions being made by Hitler over the Russian campaign and privately they admitted the war was lost, as revealed by historians research since WW2.  Many senior military commanders also witnessed Hitler's manic ranting and raving, but could say little without the very real risk of being shot. 

When Hitler's whole approach and ideology is taken into account, with his beliefs that whole sections of humanity should be eliminated, along with his wild fantasy on how Germany and the whole World should look, in the realms of ideology, architecture, and general way of life in a complete totalitarian state after war's end within the Third Reich, and after reading and watching much evidence of the reality of the overall situation it is clear Hitler was a madman, a lunatic, completely manic, who had a gift to hypnotize people into conforming to and delivering his wishes.  By April 1945 all those who had contact with Hitler in the Fuhrerbunker, Berlin would only confirm he was the lunatic to the end, and hundreds of thousands died, in addition to the 56 million up to that point, unnecessarily due to that. ;)   

Some put his unbalanced mental state down to his vegetarianism. ;)

Seriously though, Hitler was a champion of animal rights which sits uncomfortably with his manic ranting hatred of the Jews.
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Re: Paging Rods2 to General Discussion
« Reply #13 on: 06 March 2018, 13:45:24 »

If somebody backed Putin into a corner, then I very much doubt his reaction would be any different.

Thus far, he hasn't been cornered, and don't forget, he made himself President, so I doubt he would lose a seconds sleep over cleansing entire countries if his needs demanded it.

Incidentally, one of the futilities of war is that large numbers of people die needlessly. Also, I very much doubt that Hitlers suicide was out of guilt, he was cold and calculating to the end. Much like Putin...

You are right DG, it was because he didn't want to fall into the hands of the Red Army and what they would do to him! ;)
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« Reply #14 on: 06 March 2018, 13:57:55 »

Any one individual who can clearly and reliably manipulate the bulk of their population by whatever means that they feel appropriate and all for their personal gain, be that wealth or power, could never be described as manic...

Sure, Putins numbers are a fraction of Hitlers, but rest assured, as individuals they are fruit from the same tree...

  stuff

Some put his unbalanced mental state down to his vegetarianism. ;)

Seriously though, Hitler was a champion of animal rights which sits uncomfortably with his manic ranting hatred of the Jews.

one of the first things he did was ban foxhunting
even when a few of his main men were hunting /shooting people.
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