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[Varche]

Well today is the day.

Will it be a breakthrough that both sides can work with?

Is it just grandstanding? Going through the motions as we head for the 31st Oct.

As Cleverly says , it is the moment of truth. Maybe it is just a moment of truth of many more.

[Doctor Gollum]

We've spent the last three years trying to reason with a body that has no interest or incentive whatsoever to negotiate anything put to them...

I cannot see today being any different 

[Raeturbo]

I agree, I’m afraid it’s their way or no way, and it’s clear it’s been that from the start, we simply should have stated our terms at the outset, try to compromise, and when that failed we should have got out ASAP.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Just been listening to the news.

Is Boris thinking of throwing N. Ireland under the bus?......or do I have it wrong?

[Doctor Gollum]

Just been listening to the news.

Is Boris thinking of throwing N. Ireland under the bus?......or do I have it wrong?

You have it wrong, I think, but he is certainly putting the onus on to Eire/the EU to sort their border out.

[Nick W]

Just been listening to the news.

Is Boris thinking of throwing N. Ireland under the bus?......or do I have it wrong?

You have it wrong, I think, but he is certainly putting the onus on to Eire/the EU to sort their border out.

It's our border too, and isn't part of Brexit about getting control of them back?


We've spent over a 1000 years causing trouble in Ireland; it's way past time that the whole island was just Ireland

[TheBoy]

I agree, I’m afraid it’s their way or no way, and it’s clear it’s been that from the start, we simply should have stated our terms at the outset, try to compromise, and when that failed we should have got out ASAP.

But a lot of people voted on the promise that the EU would role over, let us have our cake and eat it. Well, that and the already backtracked promise of £349m a week extra to the NHS.

All but the completely brainwashed know a no deal exit is financial suicide for generations.


Although I'm beyond caring, as long as we do something at the end of the month. Leave, stay, surrender to the Nazis, commit mass suicide. Just not extended it further.

[Doctor Gollum]

That number was on the bus with an NHS logo and was to highlight just how much money we waste on the EU membership as spending that much on the NHS would be equally pointless.

[TheBoy]

That number was on the bus with an NHS logo and was to highlight just how much money we waste on the EU membership as spending that much on the NHS would be equally pointless.

Hardline brexiteers are backtracking on it, now chief brainwasher Farage has backtracked on it, but go and look at the pic of the bus again.  Very evidently, its implying that £349m a week would be spent on the NHS.


Which I agree is a waste of money. But that doesn't make an outright naughty porkie suddenly OK.

[STEMO]

Here we go. It doesn't matter what the EU says, old man Corbyn doesn't like it.

[TheBoy]

Here we go. It doesn't matter what the EU says, old man Corbyn doesn't like it.

His standard response seems to be to disagree.

[STEMO]

I really can't see why the EU don't just say no deal now. How can we possibly end up anywhere else? Nothing, but nothing, will get through parliament, so a no deal has to be the end result.

[TheBoy]

I really can't see why the EU don't just say no deal now. How can we possibly end up anywhere else? Nothing, but nothing, will get through parliament, so a no deal has to be the end result.

That's a UK problem, not an EU problem.

[STEMO]

I really can't see why the EU don't just say no deal now. How can we possibly end up anywhere else? Nothing, but nothing, will get through parliament, so a no deal has to be the end result.

That's a UK problem, not an EU problem.

What difference does that make? Still no deal.

[TheBoy]

I really can't see why the EU don't just say no deal now. How can we possibly end up anywhere else? Nothing, but nothing, will get through parliament, so a no deal has to be the end result.

That's a UK problem, not an EU problem.

What difference does that make? Still no deal.

The EU don't need to look like blockers here, so why would they?

I'm sure they know the UK wont agree that "deal", Boris knows it, in fact it smells of another delay method by Boris to get nearer the 31st date