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[tunnie]

https://imgur.com/gallery/2YYlgBk

Spotted this morning, typical is chucking it down tonight.

[STEMO]

They can become loose for a number of reasons, i.e. expansion and contraction with the different weather. But the main reason is that they weren't fixed properly in the first place.
That shouldn't leak, but get it put back before it falls on your head/your car/your dog.

[STEMO]

You could reach that with your gadget arms through the velux.

[tunnie]

You could reach that with your gadget arms through the velux.

Attempting this when I get home!

[dave the builder]

Looks like the nib (tab /hook on the back) is missing(or damaged when the velux was fitted  ) ,or lathe has rotted ,nail cancer
fix via the velux 
underfelt /membrane tyvek should keep the rain out short term BTW

as uncle STEMO says
plus
reach out the velux ,recover the tile NOW before it lands 

[tunnie]

They can become loose for a number of reasons, i.e. expansion and contraction with the different weather. But the main reason is that they weren't fixed properly in the first place.
That shouldn't leak, but get it put back before it falls on your head/your car/your dog.

Thanks. Worried about leaking and snow/sleet currently falling.

[tunnie]

I won’t be able to reach it sadly...

Thanks for detail though 

[tunnie]

Wider view

https://imgur.com/gallery/r5KTiA4

[STEMO]

They can become loose for a number of reasons, i.e. expansion and contraction with the different weather. But the main reason is that they weren't fixed properly in the first place.
That shouldn't leak, but get it put back before it falls on your head/your car/your dog.

Thanks. Worried about leaking and snow/sleet currently falling.

If you can reach it enough to manipulate it, put some clear silicon sealant on the underside and plonk it back till you get it repaired. Or leave it stuck with it forever 

[STEMO]

That's either gonna end up in the gutter, or jump over and smash a few more below.

[STEMO]

Dave the builder.....can you fix it?

[Alnico Blue]

Dave the builder.....can you fix it?

Course he can  . .

[dave the builder]

Do a Michael Jackson
hang one of the kids out by the ankles 
or make a wire coat hanger hook and snag it through a nail hole in the tile 
if you can rescue it ,you will save the ball ache of trying to find matching tiles when it lands

Dave the builder.....can you fix it?

I could 
about 100 miles out my working circle I'd have thought
and simple enough for a DIY fix 

[tunnie]

No nail or space to grab the tile, just tried to reach out, it’s a narrow window. No chance.

Can feel gap, membrane is wet.

Skip is below due to building work, so handy if it drops! Have spare tiles already due to building work.

How long is good for? Should have someone looking at it Thursday.

[ronnyd]

Are they solar panels on the roof? if so complain to the company that fitted them. The house across the road was having them fitted and one of the fitters was stomping around all over the roof, it,s a wonder they have any whole tiles left.

[STEMO]

Are they solar panels on the roof? if so complain to the company that fitted them. The house across the road was having them fitted and one of the fitters was stomping around all over the roof, it,s a wonder they have any whole tiles left.

That's another one of the reasons they break...firkin great boots stomping all over them. It should be fine till Thursday.

[dave the builder]

make a dog collar lasso then ,loop of string in a tube/pipe 
and if you can reach to feel the felt,you can reach to bodge it fix it securely back 

[tunnie]

Thermal Solar, fitted when house was built in 2012.

[ronnyd]

Thermal Solar, fitted when house was built in 2012.

Was due to fail then.

[dave the builder]

Thermal Solar, fitted when house was built in 2012.

Was due to fail then.

My staff blue tiles have been up since 1890 and there still up there 
(apart from the ones I removed to fit velux windows )
snotted on the back of the lathe with weak lime mortar ,no nails and it's on the top of a hill (for when the global warming melts the ice caps)
windy here in winter

[Shackeng]

Off topic, why is there what looks like an expansion joint in the brickwork in line with the dish? Dave will know I'm sure.

[dave the builder]

Off topic, why is there what looks like an expansion joint in the brickwork in line with the dish? Dave will know I'm sure.

Fake header brick course
for the architectural detail ,
(so it looks like it was built by the Romans 2000 years ago .......
rather than the Romanians 6 years ago )

[STEMO]

That looks like a fault in the picture, Chris.

[dave the builder]

confused now ,i thought Shackeng was talking about the blue brick course level with satellite dish  in pic 2 
https://imgur.com/gallery/r5KTiA4

[STEMO]

confused now ,i thought Shackeng was talking about the blue brick course level with satellite dish  in pic 2 
https://imgur.com/gallery/r5KTiA4

I think he means the bit that looks like an extension, tied in.

[dave the builder]

confused now ,i thought Shackeng was talking about the blue brick course level with satellite dish  in pic 2 
https://imgur.com/gallery/r5KTiA4

I think he means the bit that looks like an extension, tied in.

Ah
I see , said the blind man 
the line in the brickwork directly above the dish
that is odd 

[tunnie]

Goes all the way down, rubber sealant there. Bricks cut in half as well, no idea why, all part of original house.

Extension taking place around the back.

[STEMO]

It is odd  Our house was built on the end of an existing terrace (because there was nowhere for the station master of the newly built station to live in 1926) and has a similar line between us and next door.

[dave the builder]

I've seen them between new build terraced houses ,but never mid wall on a single property  and usually wider ,like 20 to 25mm 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Have you got a garden rake Tunnie, and if so could you drag it back with it? 

[tunnie]

Have you got a garden rake Tunnie, and if so could you drag it back with it? 

Sadly no, garage empty due to building work.

I'll risk it till Thursday, when the bigger ladders arrive. We are a 2 story town house, so bit higher than normal.

[ronnyd]

confused now ,i thought Shackeng was talking about the blue brick course level with satellite dish  in pic 2 
https://imgur.com/gallery/r5KTiA4

I think he means the bit that looks like an extension, tied in.

Ah
I see , said the blind man 
the line in the brickwork directly above the dish
that is odd 

Could it be a cable running  from the dish horizontally? Well, sort of. 

[tunnie]

confused now ,i thought Shackeng was talking about the blue brick course level with satellite dish  in pic 2 
https://imgur.com/gallery/r5KTiA4

I think he means the bit that looks like an extension, tied in.

Ah
I see , said the blind man 
the line in the brickwork directly above the dish
that is odd 

Could it be a cable running  from the dish horizontally? Well, sort of. 

No, it’s not a cable

[Kevin Wood]

confused now ,i thought Shackeng was talking about the blue brick course level with satellite dish  in pic 2 
https://imgur.com/gallery/r5KTiA4

I think he means the bit that looks like an extension, tied in.

Ah
I see , said the blind man 
the line in the brickwork directly above the dish
that is odd 

Could it be a cable running  from the dish horizontally? Well, sort of. 

No, it’s not a cable

Far too neat to be a Sky cable.

[Shackeng]

It continues vertically below the dish, and definitely looks like an expansion joint, but I can't figure why it would have been necessary.

[Doctor Gollum]

Definitely cabling as it isn't even vertical

[dave the builder]

It could be to allow for movement for when a new building settles if ground around is prone to movement or clay heave (expansion joint )
or it could be there if in close proximity to blast zones ,all new builds in Brackley have them,laminated glass,downstairs toilet bomb shelter etc 
or the builder forgot his tape when marking out 

[tunnie]

All the houses are town house style if that makes a difference, we all have ground, 1st and 2nd floors. Mine is just one of 2 that are detached. Others are Semi or Terrace.

Small development of 9 houses, they must have done it for a reason. All houses were built with thermal-solar as well, but that might have been just to keep the council happy.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Have you got a garden rake Tunnie, and if so could you drag it back with it? 

......or a ladder.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Have you got a garden rake Tunnie, and if so could you drag it back with it? 

......or a ladder.

No need, he could reach it from the velux. 

In fact I'm sure he could reach it if he lent out of the velux far enough with Mrs Tunnie hanging on to his ankles. 

What could possibly go wrong? 

[Marks DTM Calib]

Are they bricks or brick veneers (you often see this with veneers)?

That tiling around the Velux is very shoddy!

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Have you got a garden rake Tunnie, and if so could you drag it back with it? 

......or a ladder.

No need, he could reach it from the velux. 

In fact I'm sure he could reach it if he lent out of the velux far enough with Mrs Tunnie hanging on to his ankles. 

What could possibly go wrong? 

And if Mrs Tunnie has taken out life insurance losing her grip may not be the worst thing that could happen.

[tunnie]

Are they bricks or brick veneers (you often see this with veneers)?

That tiling around the Velux is very shoddy!

Don’t know difference in bricks?

Being new build, found many issues. 

Solar thermal was installed by standard plumber who knew nothing about solar.

Fixed all issues though, until now

[STEMO]

Are they bricks or brick veneers (you often see this with veneers)?

That tiling around the Velux is very shoddy!

The pointing doesn't look regular enough for it to be a veneer, but......who knows. It may be a new type of veneer to make it look shitty enough to have been done by a tradesman.

[STEMO]

Tunnie...you're going to have to ask the builders to put us out of our misery.

[tunnie]

From Google:

“A brick veneer wall is constructed by having a non-structural external layer, usually with bricks and it is backed by an air cavity. The innermost element of this type of wall is structural can consist of wood, metal framing or masonry. A brick veneer construction has many advantages over solid masonry.”

.... I think the house is timber frame. 

[Doctor Gollum]

That's going to be fun doing the extension...

[Viral_Jim]

Tunnie...you're going to have to ask the builders to put us out of our misery.

Its a movement joint.

Here's a link to a very boring NHBC standard which offers some explanation.

Old houses didn't need them as lime mortar allowed a greater degree of movement. 

[Phil]

Its unlikely to be a brick rainscreen, joints are far too rubbish for a factory made panel.

Also mortar is different shades suggesting 'hand' not 'machine' batched and the efflorescence in the face of the brickwork suggests proper bricks badly stored, you very rarely see that in factory made rainscreen panels.

If it was a rainscreen panel, based on where the joint is, its over 3m wide and they don't generally make them that big as they are too fragile

Its not uncommon to have a timber frame house with a proper brick facade, that's what I'd suggest is what this house is

[Shackeng]

I am still puzzled as to why the builder found it necessary to put this joint in. Is it commonly done nowadays?

[dave the builder]

I am still puzzled as to why the builder found it necessary to put this joint in. Is it commonly done nowadays?

New houses have to last the 10 years of the NHBC guarantee without major repairs,
but houses built on ground prone to movement , not virgin ground, but built up,or drained wetland or brownfield  or area prone to clay heave or subsidence are going to move,
put a movement joint in, if and when the land settles, either the joint will close, OR IF it opens the joint up ,the builder has to send the YTS trainee round with a mastic gun to snot over the joint to keep the sucker proud new homeowner happy.

that's why all new builds are magnolia inside, when the house settles, said YTS trainee will be sent to fill cracks and touch up the magnolia paint .

[Marks DTM Calib]

Are they bricks or brick veneers (you often see this with veneers)?

That tiling around the Velux is very shoddy!

Don’t know difference in bricks?

Being new build, found many issues. 

Solar thermal was installed by standard plumber who knew nothing about solar.

Fixed all issues though, until now

Not the solar thermal, the Velux, tile falls short on the right side (there are ways to stop this happening with a it of careful planning and/or cutting).

[Shackeng]

I am still puzzled as to why the builder found it necessary to put this joint in. Is it commonly done nowadays?

New houses have to last the 10 years of the NHBC guarantee without major repairs,
but houses built on ground prone to movement , not virgin ground, but built up,or drained wetland or brownfield  or area prone to clay heave or subsidence are going to move,
put a movement joint in, if and when the land settles, either the joint will close, OR IF it opens the joint up ,the builder has to send the YTS trainee round with a mastic gun to snot over the joint to keep the sucker proud new homeowner happy.

that's why all new builds are magnolia inside, when the house settles, said YTS trainee will be sent to fill cracks and touch up the magnolia paint .

Thanks Dave, well explained.

PS This would have worked on my house which was built on made up ground, and suffered settlement cracks.