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« Reply #15 on: 28 August 2019, 11:49:55 »

Whatever it is, it is a strong car. The irritating man with the tash got out unscathed.

Fancy the other guy being there at the side of the road just at that time!
The other guy is the same guy.
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« Reply #16 on: 28 August 2019, 12:23:21 »



Cars are certainly very 'samey'  these days .......especially small cars.

Without a badge of identification to help me I wouldn't know a small Renault from a small Pug, Citroen, Mazda, Ford or Vauxhall. :-X


Cars have ALWAYS been 'samey', as they all have to conform to the same packaging requirements and the style of the day. So every now and then, there's a sudden change, before all the other manufacturers follow.


Just look at thirties cars; the only way to tell the difference is to look at the grille.


Then you have Ford Consuls and the A90 Westminsters of the fifties; the same silhouette, just slightly different chrome trims.


Mk2 Cortina and Hillman Hunter?


mk1 Escort, Avenger and Marina? They could be brothers, let alone cousins


Polo and Fiesta? Golf and Horizon? Alpine and Cavalier hatchback? Astra and mk3 Escort?


Primera and Mondeo?


etc, etc




Modern platform sharing makes this even more apparent. VAG cars are obviously the same, as a quick look at areas like the windscreen pillars, scuttles and sills show, but it doesn't take much to spot the relationship between the Ka and 500, or Renaults and European Nissans
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« Reply #17 on: 28 August 2019, 12:28:11 »

Have a look at the rear of a golf estate and an astra estate, they are virtually identical.
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« Reply #18 on: 28 August 2019, 12:40:21 »

Have a look at the rear of a golf estate and an astra estate, they are virtually identical.


Kinda tricky to make two similarly sized boxes with a door look different.
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« Reply #19 on: 28 August 2019, 12:48:12 »

Have a look at the rear of a golf estate and an astra estate, they are virtually identical.


Kinda tricky to make two similarly sized boxes with a door look different.
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« Reply #20 on: 28 August 2019, 12:49:46 »

Fortunately most of the Vauxhall estates all look the same as the Peugeot ones, which must make the bean counters very happy ;D
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« Reply #21 on: 28 August 2019, 13:32:17 »

Fortunately most of the Vauxhall estates all look the same as the Peugeot ones, which must make the bean counters very happy ;D
Are you sure? This looks better than any Vauxhall I know

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« Reply #22 on: 28 August 2019, 13:34:48 »

Pic is there, but not showing  :-\


Ah..''tis now.
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« Reply #23 on: 28 August 2019, 13:50:58 »



Cars are certainly very 'samey'  these days .......especially small cars.

Without a badge of identification to help me I wouldn't know a small Renault from a small Pug, Citroen, Mazda, Ford or Vauxhall. :-X


Cars have ALWAYS been 'samey', as they all have to conform to the same packaging requirements and the style of the day. So every now and then, there's a sudden change, before all the other manufacturers follow.


Just look at thirties cars; the only way to tell the difference is to look at the grille.


Then you have Ford Consuls and the A90 Westminsters of the fifties; the same silhouette, just slightly different chrome trims.


Mk2 Cortina and Hillman Hunter?


mk1 Escort, Avenger and Marina? They could be brothers, let alone cousins


What!! :o :o :o :o

You obviously never looked at many of those cars.  The styling, the wings, the headlights, the shape of the windows, the door handles, the engine cowlings, wing mirrors, bumpers, were all very different on every one of those you mention

Even those with the same chassis, like the Morris Oxford vs. the Austin Cambridge were identifiable by their differences at even 300 yards, as was the likes of the Austin Westminster vs. the Wolsley 6/99.

Ford Escort Mk1 looked the same as the Marina or Avenger? ................oh, come on!!  You must be blind or not old enough to know the difference at a distance that even me, a girlie, could identify! ::) ::) ::)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D :) 
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« Reply #24 on: 28 August 2019, 14:18:21 »

I've been interested in, and looking at, cars for over 45 years.


Go and look at an Escort, Avenger and Marina again. Properly. Pictures will probably have to do. The curve through the door, over the wheel arch and into the quarter panel? The roofline or shapes of the doors, both things that are going to be the same due to the size of the car. Look at the front, and how the wings dip towards to the bonnet, which then rises to a gentle curve over the engine, with a low wide eggcrate grille. Avengers and Escorts(and Allegros among others) even use the same headlights! The shape of the back window with a steeply raked boot and quarter panels, although the Avenger tail is better resolved with 'L' shaped rear lights that flow into a back panel that isn't recessed. Narrow wheels inside much bigger wheelarches(12" wheels on some Avengers and Escorts too)


The other examples I mentioned can be compared in the same way, because they all follow the styling conventions of their day, wrapped around the mechanical bits.


And I never said that Avengers, Escorts and Marinas(HC Vivas too) weren't individually identifiable - I'll happily point out different Avenger models based on the different side trims if you want -just that they look very similar.


designers tried to distinguish their cars from others and their own lower spec cars with chrome trims, vinyl roofs, flashy wheel trims, two tone paint, different bumpers or four lights instead of two. Now they do it with weird bodylines, bulkier bumpers and bigger wheels, all the same tricks.
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« Reply #25 on: 28 August 2019, 14:24:23 »

I've been interested in, and looking at, cars for over 45 years.


Go and look at an Escort, Avenger and Marina again. Properly. Pictures will probably have to do.

Do not need to as I know them all very well as I was driving an Escort Mk1 47 years ago, after "watching cars" since 60 years ago, and travelled extensively across this fair land seeing everything on the road and studying all the features mentioned.  I know exactly what existed before you even started "looking" at cars - sorry Nick, but that is the truth! ::) ::) :D :D :-* :-* ;)
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« Reply #26 on: 28 August 2019, 14:49:33 »

Ever tried fitting bodyparts off one to another? Takes a lot more than just looking.....
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« Reply #27 on: 28 August 2019, 14:55:21 »

This isn't a pissing contest.

Apart from a few BL horrors, cars are generally designed by a handful of individuals with a nod to both the past and future whilst respecting current trends ::)

Which is why the lights of the current Galaxy still share a design line with the original Galaxy...
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« Reply #28 on: 28 August 2019, 14:57:50 »

This isn't a pissing contest.

Apart from a few BL horrors, cars are generally designed by a handful of individuals with a nod to both the past and future whilst respecting current trends ::)

Which is why the lights of the current Galaxy still share a design line with the original Galaxy...
I reckon Nick would beat Lizzie in a pissing contest every time.  ;D
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« Reply #29 on: 28 August 2019, 20:16:59 »

Ever tried fitting bodyparts off one to another? Takes a lot more than just looking.....

No, don't need to as I have had men to do that for me as I watch them!;D ;D ;D ;)
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