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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: aaronjb on 14 June 2018, 09:11:09
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So I've come to my senses (some would say) and am considering off-loading the Skoda to save the £460/mo PCP and get something older and bought outright now that I'm no longer doing starship mileage.
So what does a friend send me? This: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dodge-Magnum-R-T-AWD-5-7-Hemi-with-Prinns-LPG-Low-Mileage/173350442688
Why, why must he tempt me.. ;D
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Senses? They're over there... ;D
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So what does a friend send me? This: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dodge-Magnum-R-T-AWD-5-7-Hemi-with-Prinns-LPG-Low-Mileage/173350442688
Subtle, I like it ;D
Although from my initial investigation (considered an lpg Xj at one point), there seems to be precious few lpg sites in Northampton. :-\
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£5520 each year to run around in a Skoda you don't own. :-\
Not even a proper 'Porsche 911 type Skoda' that was lovingly built in Czechoslovakia by communists. ::) ::)
How much do you want to spend?
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So I've come to my senses (some would say) and am considering off-loading the Skoda to save the £460/mo PCP and get something older and bought outright now that I'm no longer doing starship mileage.
So what does a friend send me? This: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dodge-Magnum-R-T-AWD-5-7-Hemi-with-Prinns-LPG-Low-Mileage/173350442688
Why, why must he tempt me.. ;D
No price on it.
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Although from my initial investigation (considered an lpg Xj at one point), there seems to be precious few lpg sites in Northampton. :-\
I think there is basically only the Shell garage on the A45.. which, yeah, is less than convenient!
No price on it.
"Classified Ad price:£7,995.00" - for some reason that doesn't show up on the mobile version of the page, but it is there..
How much do you want to spend?
In reality I'm thinking of "snotter" territory, so y'know.. a little more than your average Omega, but less than the Dodge above. Estate essential, towbar nice to have, and probably LPG. I don't mind eating fuel economy around town, but on the once weekly commute, LPG would make a big dent in the cost.
This caught my eye: https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/subaru/legacy/subaru-legacy-jdm-twinscroll-turbo-spec-b-auto-estate-with-lpg-conversion/8719434
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Oh, it's LPG'd! Practical runaround, then.
.. which I'd defy even the most ardent middle-lane-newspaper-reader not to notice in their mirrors. ;D
"I'M COMING THROUGH"... :D
EDIT: the truck, that is, not the scooby.
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£6000 for a 14 year old Subaru....... :o :o :o :o :o. Way too much.
The mighty Signum has similar performance. 250 BHP......zero to 60 in 6.7 seconds. Large carrying capacity and no need to wear your baseball cap the wrong way round. :y
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You should be able to buy three 2007 Signum 2.8V6 for he same price as one 'chav owned' Scooby. :)
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Alternatively, Saab 9-3 2.8T estate? Similar to the signum (same engine), other than being better looking that is :P
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Alternatively, Saab 9-3 2.8T estate? Similar to the signum (same engine), other than being better looking that is :P
Yes. Like the Signum something of a sleeper that often slips below the radar.
My car, dreary as it looks, has the legs on a 2.0 turbocharged Golf GTI. The ' wet behind the ears' kid who was driving it was not amused. :y
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Always nice! ;D
Once we get moved and my commute goes down by 50%, the Ovlov will be departing. Tempted by the 2.8T lump in... something. :-\
Shame it never made it into the Saab 9-5 (beyond a handful of examples), a lightly fettled 2.3T maybe an answer...
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Always nice! ;D
Once we get moved and my commute goes down by 50%, the Ovlov will be departing. Tempted by the 2.8T lump in... something. :-\
Shame it never made it into the Saab 9-5 (beyond a handful of examples), a lightly fettled 2.3T maybe an answer...
Insignia VXR has the same 2.8 lump in 4 wheel drive form. It all depends if you can stomach the looks. :-\
If not how about a Vectra VXR for a nice dose of torque steer. :)
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Always nice! ;D
Once we get moved and my commute goes down by 50%, the Ovlov will be departing. Tempted by the 2.8T lump in... something. :-\
Shame it never made it into the Saab 9-5 (beyond a handful of examples), a lightly fettled 2.3T maybe an answer...
Insignia VXR has the same 2.8 lump in 4 wheel drive form. It all depends if you can stomach the looks. :-\
If not how about a Vectra VXR for a nice dose of torque steer. :)
Start at £4k for the Insignia :o
Saab 9-3 had the 2.8 4x4 drivetrain as well.. 8)
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My only concert with the 9-3 turbo X (awd) is the age/mileage. Chances are it’s likely to not have had the haldex serviced properly.
I did notice an 09 plate 2.8T elite insignia with only 9k on it for £6k (I think). Not bad.
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My only concert with the 9-3 turbo X (awd) is the age/mileage. Chances are it’s likely to not have had the haldex serviced properly.
I did notice an 09 plate 2.8T elite insignia with only 9k on it for £6k (I think). Not bad.
Sounds good in isolation. :y
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As always with cars with ultra low mileage, depends on the back story. But the interior and condition don’t seem at odds with the mileage.
Solid long-term car for someone.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201806067226791?atmobcid=soc3 (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201806067226791?atmobcid=soc3)
I’m not sure I could put up wiv da bling (innit) of an insignia vxr. Rather get the elite and have it remapped, for 95% of the performance with 5% of the Halfords factor.
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As always with cars with ultra low mileage, depends on the back story. But the interior and condition don’t seem at odds with the mileage.
Solid long-term car for someone.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201806067226791?atmobcid=soc3 (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201806067226791?atmobcid=soc3)
I’m not sure I could put up wiv da bling (innit) of an insignia vxr. Rather get the elite and have it remapped, for 95% of the performance with 5% of the Halfords factor.
I'd say that is well worth a look if the mileage is 9000 and not 90000.
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As always with cars with ultra low mileage, depends on the back story. But the interior and condition don’t seem at odds with the mileage.
Solid long-term car for someone.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201806067226791?atmobcid=soc3 (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201806067226791?atmobcid=soc3)
I’m not sure I could put up wiv da bling (innit) of an insignia vxr. Rather get the elite and have it remapped, for 95% of the performance with 5% of the Halfords factor.
Would you trust a WWD slush box with 320 bhp running through it ::)
There's an ex plod one for £3,995 with 118k on it ;)
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Would you trust a WWD slush box with 320 bhp running through it ::)
Sure, what’s the worst that could happen ;D
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Joking aside Aaron, how about a tidy Seventiesish Yank 8)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLASSIC-AMERICAN-CHEVROLET-PICKUP-C20-1968-/323299927513 8)
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Someone has spent too much time in the sun! :P ;D
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Someone has spent too much time in the sun! :P ;D
I bet the spark plugs are easy to get at on it 8)
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And it will tow the Cobra to track days ;)
Not to mention being tax and MoT exempt...
See, I am not always as stupid as people give me credit for :P
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And it will tow the Cobra to track days ;)
Not to mention being tax and MoT exempt...
See, I am not always as stupid as people give me credit for :P
And if you need to pop down the shops, you still have the 640 ;) so that's the practical stuff covered as well as the emotional... :y
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For me, nothing Saab came up with after the early 90s ever floated my boat. Yet its all jimmy944 really fancies (if only the right one would come along).
I find it really fascinating how people desire certain cars, and often wonder why. Certainly makes interesting reading :y
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For me, nothing Saab came up with after the early 90s ever floated my boat.
Don't get me wrong, if I could have landed a 9000 that hadn't been feasted on by the tin worm, I'd have gone for one of them years ago, but (I think) they're all at least 21yrs old now - so probably will never happen. ::)
I quite like the Jaaaags of the early 2000's era, well XJ and s-type, not the x-type. In fact most things in the 220-300 bhp <£5-6k bracket will get a look in when I can get a change. Sadly 20-25k/yr (even after the move) rules out anything too exciting.
The Swede is mighty comfortable and is proving reliable, touch wood, but (to quote clarkson) its as dull and grey as sitting in Eyore's bottom. But 35-40k/yr rather forces my hand atm ;D
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A mate who I know from school had a 9000 from near new (always was a rich kid ;D). Lovely motor :y, but as said, all will be knocking on a bit now.
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For me, nothing Saab came up with after the early 90s ever floated my boat.
Don't get me wrong, if I could have landed a 9000 that hadn't been feasted on by the tin worm, I'd have gone for one of them years ago, but (I think) they're all at least 21yrs old now - so probably will never happen. ::)
I quite like the Jaaaags of the early 2000's era, well XJ and s-type, not the x-type. In fact most things in the 220-300 bhp <£5-6k bracket will get a look in when I can get a change. Sadly 20-25k/yr (even after the move) rules out anything too exciting.
The Swede is mighty comfortable and is proving reliable, touch wood, but (to quote clarkson) its as dull and grey as sitting in Eyore's bottom. But 35-40k/yr rather forces my hand atm ;D
Same, an XJ-R from this era still looks good. Effortless power as well, which is what I like.
Trouble is finding examples, some appear to be around ~3/5k or crazy 10k+ :-\ - Then who knows how to actually work on them.
I'll continue to run 3.2 for some time yet, as it ticks all my boxes for now. If I lost if for what ever reason, I've no idea to be honest what I'd get.
I'd like to scratch that V8 urge, given my current low miles. Maybe something like e39 5 Series 540i.
I was even looking at Astra GTC's other day on Autotrader, for the cash, they offer great value. That would be a head over heart decision though!
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Same, an XJ-R from this era still looks good. But smell of piss.
FTFY
Then who knows how to actually work on them.
Can't speak for the X350 or X358, but the X351 is well engineered, and seems easy enough to do most tasks. Due to time needed to remove trim/plastics, I reckon some tasks could be pricey if not DIY though.
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Same, an XJ-R from this era still looks good. But smell of piss.
FTFY
Then who knows how to actually work on them.
Can't speak for the X350 or X358, but the X351 is well engineered, and seems easy enough to do most tasks. Due to time needed to remove trim/plastics, I reckon some tasks could be pricey if not DIY though.
Trouble is for X351, you need to be spending £15k. That gets you something with 100,000+ miles as well. :(
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Same, an XJ-R from this era still looks good. But smell of piss.
FTFY
Then who knows how to actually work on them.
Can't speak for the X350 or X358, but the X351 is well engineered, and seems easy enough to do most tasks. Due to time needed to remove trim/plastics, I reckon some tasks could be pricey if not DIY though.
Trouble is for X351, you need to be spending £15k. That gets you something with 100,000+ miles as well. :(
I never said get a current one ;). It wouldn't suit you anyway. I agree, your 3.2 is your best choice for the foreseeable future :y
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Same, an XJ-R from this era still looks good. But smell of piss.
FTFY
Then who knows how to actually work on them.
Can't speak for the X350 or X358, but the X351 is well engineered, and seems easy enough to do most tasks. Due to time needed to remove trim/plastics, I reckon some tasks could be pricey if not DIY though.
Trouble is for X351, you need to be spending £15k. That gets you something with 100,000+ miles as well. :(
Boo Hoo (https://m.imgur.com/t/millennials/aIoYY) ::)
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Same, an XJ-R from this era still looks good. But smell of piss.
FTFY
Then who knows how to actually work on them.
Can't speak for the X350 or X358, but the X351 is well engineered, and seems easy enough to do most tasks. Due to time needed to remove trim/plastics, I reckon some tasks could be pricey if not DIY though.
Trouble is for X351, you need to be spending £15k. That gets you something with 100,000+ miles as well. :(
I never said get a current one ;). It wouldn't suit you anyway. I agree, your 3.2 is your best choice for the foreseeable future :y
Yup, cheap as chips to run.
Needs it's annual service soon, getting a bit overdue. Got everything I need bar oil for it, might just shove ECP QX stuff oil in it.
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For me, nothing Saab came up with after the early 90s ever floated my boat.
Don't get me wrong, if I could have landed a 9000 that hadn't been feasted on by the tin worm, I'd have gone for one of them years ago, but (I think) they're all at least 21yrs old now - so probably will never happen. ::)
I quite like the Jaaaags of the early 2000's era, well XJ and s-type, not the x-type. In fact most things in the 220-300 bhp <£5-6k bracket will get a look in when I can get a change. Sadly 20-25k/yr (even after the move) rules out anything too exciting.
The Swede is mighty comfortable and is proving reliable, touch wood, but (to quote clarkson) its as dull and grey as sitting in Eyore's bottom. But 35-40k/yr rather forces my hand atm ;D
Same, an XJ-R from this era still looks good. Effortless power as well, which is what I like.
Trouble is finding examples, some appear to be around ~3/5k or crazy 10k+ :-\ - Then who knows how to actually work on them.
I'll continue to run 3.2 for some time yet, as it ticks all my boxes for now. If I lost if for what ever reason, I've no idea to be honest what I'd get.
I'd like to scratch that V8 urge, given my current low miles. Maybe something like e39 5 Series 540i.
I was even looking at Astra GTC's other day on Autotrader, for the cash, they offer great value. That would be a head over heart decision though!
Hairdresser's car. :)
Way back in the eighties we knew a kid who drove a white XR3i cabriolet. He thought he looked cool. The girls liked the car but thought that all the drivers were benders.
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Monaro Tunnie?
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:-X
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Monaro Tunnie?
For Tunnie?.... :-X :-\
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Monaro Tunnie?
For Tunnie?.... :-X :-\
He needs a five seater ;)
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Monaro Tunnie?
To expensive for that V8 itch, if I would get one would still be doing car share. But only really want to burn few grand (sub £5k) - I do like them though, thing is, I guess I'm getting old. I would prefer an auto. :-[
So VXR8 :D - But for the cash to buy one of those, I'd probably get XJ like the fatty admin.
For me, nothing Saab came up with after the early 90s ever floated my boat.
Don't get me wrong, if I could have landed a 9000 that hadn't been feasted on by the tin worm, I'd have gone for one of them years ago, but (I think) they're all at least 21yrs old now - so probably will never happen. ::)
I quite like the Jaaaags of the early 2000's era, well XJ and s-type, not the x-type. In fact most things in the 220-300 bhp <£5-6k bracket will get a look in when I can get a change. Sadly 20-25k/yr (even after the move) rules out anything too exciting.
The Swede is mighty comfortable and is proving reliable, touch wood, but (to quote clarkson) its as dull and grey as sitting in Eyore's bottom. But 35-40k/yr rather forces my hand atm ;D
Same, an XJ-R from this era still looks good. Effortless power as well, which is what I like.
Trouble is finding examples, some appear to be around ~3/5k or crazy 10k+ :-\ - Then who knows how to actually work on them.
I'll continue to run 3.2 for some time yet, as it ticks all my boxes for now. If I lost if for what ever reason, I've no idea to be honest what I'd get.
I'd like to scratch that V8 urge, given my current low miles. Maybe something like e39 5 Series 540i.
I was even looking at Astra GTC's other day on Autotrader, for the cash, they offer great value. That would be a head over heart decision though!
Hairdresser's car. :)
Way back in the eighties we knew a kid who drove a white XR3i cabriolet. He thought he looked cool. The girls liked the car but thought that all the drivers were benders.
I think there are decent enough cars, but for similar money can get facelifted previous shape Insignia. Be it diesel :(
I like the diesel mum bus, we've been really, really pleased with it. Just not sure I could live with inline 4 pot diesel as my commuter. Not exactly smooth or effortless :(
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To expensive for that V8 itch, if I would get one would still be doing car share. But only really want to burn few grand (sub £5k) - I do like them though, thing is, I guess I'm getting old. I would prefer an auto. :-[
Ha! I never picked up that the monaro was manual only! I just assumed that a big lazy v8 from the colonies would have an auto option...
Sub £5k v8 could be challenging!
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To expensive for that V8 itch, if I would get one would still be doing car share. But only really want to burn few grand (sub £5k) - I do like them though, thing is, I guess I'm getting old. I would prefer an auto. :-[
Ha! I never picked up that the monaro was manual only! I just assumed that a big lazy v8 from the colonies would have an auto option...
Sub £5k v8 could be challenging!
Monaro is very much available as an auto, about 50/50 in the US and Oz... Unfortunately rocking horse shit rare in the UK as it was basically an unavailable special order...
In its home market it is simply a 2 door example of the Commodore range, here it was marketed as a two door sports coupe ;)
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To expensive for that V8 itch, if I would get one would still be doing car share. But only really want to burn few grand (sub £5k) - I do like them though, thing is, I guess I'm getting old. I would prefer an auto. :-[
Ha! I never picked up that the monaro was manual only! I just assumed that a big lazy v8 from the colonies would have an auto option...
Sub £5k v8 could be challenging!
Yeah Monaro's manual only, I would prefer the effortless "put it in D" type stuff where you don't need to fart around with gears, getting change just right. Just push that pedal harder to 'smoke' em.
Something we do in the M235i, is that, surprisingly can smoke nearly anything it comes up to.
It's surprising what V8 you can get, sub £5k:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201803054272205?onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&radius=1500&minimum-badge-engine-size=4.0&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=tw89de&model=6%20SERIES&make=BMW&sort=price-asc&page=1 (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201803054272205?onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&radius=1500&minimum-badge-engine-size=4.0&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=tw89de&model=6%20SERIES&make=BMW&sort=price-asc&page=1)
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-HOLDEN-HSV-MALOO-5-7-AUTOMATIC-R8-V8-Y2-UTE-MONARO-PICK-UP-LOW-MILES/352376274207?hash=item520b433d1f:g:IiAAAOSwTuJYvr4~ about as close to an auto Monaro as you can get ;)
More practical than an Astra GTC too ;D
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Thoughts also:
540i
740/45
Jag XJ-R or XK
E500 Merc, bit of sleeper!
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If a Jag is out of budget, so will a 540 worth buying ;)
7 series would be a leggy diesel.
Either Jag and again you don't want to buy cheap.
W211 E500 nice choice, especially in estate form 8) but nice ones still fetch good money.
If you can reach £10k, there's some nice, well specced W212 estates around...
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It's surprising what V8 you can get, sub £5k
Nice 8).
Wonder how well they take lpg :-X
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Here's (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-Discovery-3-4-4-V8-auto-HSE-2004-54/323099318911?hash=item4b3a385a7f:g:LrIAAOSw8fZaoxRd) my V8 offering. 8)
The miles are a tad high though, so I'd want to knock a bit off the price, but these are great cars, not as agricultural as they look and can eat up the motorway miles effortlessly. This one has 295bhp! :y
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It's surprising what V8 you can get, sub £5k
Nice 8).
Wonder how well they take lpg :-X
Ask nicely and Aaron might sell you his... ::)
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Here's (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-Discovery-3-4-4-V8-auto-HSE-2004-54/323099318911?hash=item4b3a385a7f:g:LrIAAOSw8fZaoxRd) my V8 offering. 8)
Hmm, think I’d prefer the L322 FFRR, disco’s just never “did” it for me :/.
Also, why settle for a mere 4.4l ;)
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201802203914819?atmobcid=soc3 (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201802203914819?atmobcid=soc3)
Poundland interior notwithstanding ofc ::)
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Looking at the background, £20k for a VXR8... :o
There was a point in 2008 where you could by a new one for £23k... Nearly did, but stock was all red and I wanted white ::)
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Here's (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-Discovery-3-4-4-V8-auto-HSE-2004-54/323099318911?hash=item4b3a385a7f:g:LrIAAOSw8fZaoxRd) my V8 offering. 8)
Hmm, think I’d prefer the L322 FFRR, disco’s just never “did” it for me :/.
Yes I got rid of my Disco 3 and have my eye out for a suitable Rangie as I've always fancied one. :y
I think that the Disco 3/4 are somewhat cooler than the Rangie though, and the old joke What's the difference between a Range Rover and a Hedgehog........, sums it up really. ::) ;D
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Pricks on the outside?
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Pricks on the outside?
That's the one! :y ;D
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Probably explains why I like them.... ???
Wait, what?! >:(
;D
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Not a fan of the Range Rooney.
When all is said and done it is an expensive van with windows.
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Got everything I need bar oil for it, might just shove ECP QX stuff oil in it.
Ah, yes, sorry, everything else all happened, and I didn't get you anything.
Fire over another PM if you need ought still
:-[
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I still have a RR itch, and no matter how long I nick one of joshwyatts ones, itch doesn't go.
But when I put it on the driveway, its plain how impractical it is.
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Lexus LS400-or whatever number they're up to in your price range?
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I still have a RR itch, and no matter how long I nick one of joshwyatts ones, itch doesn't go.
But when I put it on the driveway, its plain how impractical it is.
Speaking of young Mr Wyatt. Is he still in the RR selling business ? I know a bloke who is looking for an L322.
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Crikey, I go away for three days and four pages of thread appear ;D ;D
In order of things I can remember to reply to:
1) I hadn't really thought about the Insignia - does seem good value, though, and I guess I could slum it in a VX again ;)
2) Saab 9-3 - there was an LPGd (I think) estate for sale that I spotted, and seriously considered as an option - assuming I can find one when/if the Skoda sells
3) Old Yank truck - would love one, but if I got one I think it would be the end of the BMW as I'd be told to get shot and only have one 'toy'! (I swear I wear the trousers, honest..)
I still have a RR itch, and no matter how long I nick one of joshwyatts ones, itch doesn't go.
I would love a nice RR Sport, but not being a footballer or drug dealer means I can't really afford one ;D
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Can I interest you in a nice MGB ? ;D
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Can I interest you in a nice MGB ? ;D
If I wanted something I had to weld back together every other day, I'd buy a Defender :P ;) ;D
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Its like new. ;)
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Its like new. ;)
Oh dear.
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Yeah I know. I drove newish ones back in the day. They were shite then, so I cant see why some people love them now.
Rose tinted specs and all that.
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2 door Morris Oxford. :y
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Zackley. :y ;D
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2 door Morris Oxford. :y
Although without the pudding stirring column gear change. ::)
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We took a trip to Skoda today to see if they'd consider a part ex against a much smaller car to basically shift the car to being L's (something like a Skoda CitiGo) - and they would, but only if I paid them an extra £2400 to take it off my hands...
Ho hum, seems like I might be keeping it till the end of the finance agreement and then looking for something to buy outright; facelift L320 RR Sport, another Ranger Wildtrak, something silly..
Finance, it's a mugs game :-[ :D
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We took a trip to Skoda today to see if they'd consider a part ex against a much smaller car to basically shift the car to being L's (something like a Skoda CitiGo) - and they would, but only if I paid them an extra £2400 to take it off my hands...
Ho hum, seems like I might be keeping it till the end of the finance agreement and then looking for something to buy outright; facelift L320 RR Sport, another Ranger Wildtrak, something silly..
Finance, it's a mugs game :-[ :D
These PCP deals may be tempting with their low APR but in essence they are equivalent to renting a house as opposed to buying one.
After 2 or 3 years and some £10-£15000 later you own SFA.
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We took a trip to Skoda today to see if they'd consider a part ex against a much smaller car to basically shift the car to being L's (something like a Skoda CitiGo) - and they would, but only if I paid them an extra £2400 to take it off my hands...
Ho hum, seems like I might be keeping it till the end of the finance agreement and then looking for something to buy outright; facelift L320 RR Sport, another Ranger Wildtrak, something silly..
Finance, it's a mugs game :-[ :D
These PCP deals may be tempting with their low APR but in essence they are equivalent to renting a house as opposed to buying one.
After 2 or 3 years and some £10-£15000 later you own SFA.
Youngsters these days lease houses, cars, tv content, music & books and as you say SFA of anything of any value. :-[ :(
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We took a trip to Skoda today to see if they'd consider a part ex against a much smaller car to basically shift the car to being L's (something like a Skoda CitiGo) - and they would, but only if I paid them an extra £2400 to take it off my hands...
Ho hum, seems like I might be keeping it till the end of the finance agreement and then looking for something to buy outright; facelift L320 RR Sport, another Ranger Wildtrak, something silly..
Finance, it's a mugs game :-[ :D
These PCP deals may be tempting with their low APR but in essence they are equivalent to renting a house as opposed to buying one.
After 2 or 3 years and some £10-£15000 later you own SFA.
Youngsters these days lease houses, cars, tv content, music & books and as you say SFA of anything of any value. :-[ :(
It used to be a case of 'if I can't afford it I can't have it'
.........That'll never work these days. ;D
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1) I hadn't really thought about the Insignia - does seem good value, though, and I guess I could slum it in a VX again ;)
They do represent excellent value, I think the last of the previous shape were crammed full of tech. The mummy bus has made me consider them for future.
A very reasonable sum will get you 2015 Elite, lots of standard toys, on paper great value I think:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201806137467493?onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&model=INSIGNIA&radius=1500&sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&make=VAUXHALL&postcode=tw89de&aggregatedTrim=Elite%20Nav&page=3 (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201806137467493?onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&model=INSIGNIA&radius=1500&sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&make=VAUXHALL&postcode=tw89de&aggregatedTrim=Elite%20Nav&page=3)
The mummy bus easily cruises at 80mph and is a very silent motorway mile muncher. However, after doing 750 miles last week in the mummy bus, it's very nice to be back in the 3.2 for work 8) - The smooth effortless power is a welcome change from the CDTi. But that the bus is function over pleasure.
Don't think I would "enjoy" driving an Insignia quickly, the engine just does not lend itself to that.
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The 150/180/195 in 4x4 Sri guise is a pretty formidable B road blaster 8)
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We took a trip to Skoda today to see if they'd consider a part ex against a much smaller car to basically shift the car to being L's (something like a Skoda CitiGo) - and they would, but only if I paid them an extra £2400 to take it off my hands...
Ho hum, seems like I might be keeping it till the end of the finance agreement and then looking for something to buy outright; facelift L320 RR Sport, another Ranger Wildtrak, something silly..
Finance, it's a mugs game :-[ :D
These PCP deals may be tempting with their low APR but in essence they are equivalent to renting a house as opposed to buying one.
After 2 or 3 years and some £10-£15000 later you own SFA.
If you catch it right, it can work.
Bro is just handing in his S Class in a couple of weeks. Lets ignore, for a moment, its a typical, crap Mercedes Benz. For what he paid over the lease term is far less than the depreciation on the car (not helped by the diesel shenanigans halfway through his lease). Trouble is, they are getting wiser to the fact that the more expensive cars are not attracting sales in 2nd hand market, so doesn't work for the leasing companies, and prices have started to increase on those.
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We took a trip to Skoda today to see if they'd consider a part ex against a much smaller car to basically shift the car to being L's (something like a Skoda CitiGo) - and they would, but only if I paid them an extra £2400 to take it off my hands...
Ho hum, seems like I might be keeping it till the end of the finance agreement and then looking for something to buy outright; facelift L320 RR Sport, another Ranger Wildtrak, something silly..
Finance, it's a mugs game :-[ :D
These PCP deals may be tempting with their low APR but in essence they are equivalent to renting a house as opposed to buying one.
After 2 or 3 years and some £10-£15000 later you own SFA.
If you catch it right, it can work.
Bro is just handing in his S Class in a couple of weeks. Lets ignore, for a moment, its a typical, crap Mercedes Benz. For what he paid over the lease term is far less than the depreciation on the car (not helped by the diesel shenanigans halfway through his lease). Trouble is, they are getting wiser to the fact that the more expensive cars are not attracting sales in 2nd hand market, so doesn't work for the leasing companies, and prices have started to increase on those.
I hear the boss of Audi cars has been arrested. :) :)