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Old name revival
« on: 20 June 2018, 20:28:15 »

In the next few days/weeks the East Coast Mainline-currently run under the Virgin Trains name will be changed[don't know whether it'll be same company running it or a different one]and it will then become LNER-hardly an original name but there you go.Of course whether the service will improve or not is an entirely different kettle of fish.
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Re: Old name revival
« Reply #1 on: 20 June 2018, 22:54:28 »

Well I'm a sucker for nostalgia, so this is 'good' (though how it will improve anything, I don't know, but that's another story.) Thanks for the info mate  :y
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« Reply #2 on: 20 June 2018, 23:18:45 »

If 'Southern' is anything to go by, rose tints and sepia will only allow so much tolerance... :D
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Re: Old name revival
« Reply #3 on: 21 June 2018, 00:23:45 »

Late and Never Early Railway?  ;D

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Re: Old name revival
« Reply #4 on: 21 June 2018, 06:20:48 »

If 'Southern' is anything to go by, rose tints and sepia will only allow so much tolerance... :D
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Re: Old name revival
« Reply #5 on: 21 June 2018, 08:12:00 »

maybe LNER should use this mythbusters clip in their ad campaigns?
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Re: Old name revival
« Reply #6 on: 21 June 2018, 08:31:55 »

* - Actually, it turns out that you can https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiJ9fy1qSFI, but it's still a turd.

 ;D ;D One of my favourite segments..
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Re: Old name revival
« Reply #7 on: 21 June 2018, 08:37:30 »


They resurrected the "GWR" branding and colours for London to S Wales and the West. Looks nice but service didn't change much.
 
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Re: Old name revival
« Reply #8 on: 21 June 2018, 09:10:09 »

That's because Isambard is no longer in charge of God's Wonderful Railway... :( :(

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Re: Old name revival
« Reply #9 on: 21 June 2018, 10:50:42 »

Does this mean we can look forward to the reintroduction and daily run for the A3 Pacific The Flying Scotsman and the preserved A4s like Sir Nigel Gresley and Mallard? :y :y :y
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Re: Old name revival
« Reply #10 on: 21 June 2018, 10:53:54 »

Wow, yes PLEASE!
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Re: Old name revival
« Reply #11 on: 21 June 2018, 11:21:14 »

That's because Isambard is no longer in charge of God's Wonderful Railway... :( :(

Ron.

He never was in charge Ron, but certainly set the Company's future with the great main line and much of the infrastructure we remember, and can see, today.  No, others directed the Company's day to day running and amoungst the names over the three distinct periods of the GWR';s history throughout the 19th century is Daniel Gooch, later Sir Gooch.  Appointed by Isambard as the railway's first Locomotive Superintendent in 1840, creating many important locomotives and suggesting the site of the GWR Swindon Locomotive Works, he later became Chairman of the Company in 1865, after finally retiring from his post of Locomotive Superintendent in 1864, and saved the GWR from potential financial ruin.  He continued in this post very successfully until his death in 1889, although his contribution to the GWR declined with his health in the final years.  Others followed him, but he is THE key name in GWR history, not forgetting he was also chairman of the company who laid the first two trans Atlantic telegraph cables. ;)
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Re: Old name revival
« Reply #12 on: 21 June 2018, 11:41:23 »

Ok Lizzie, but for me he will always be GWR. What a pity that his broad gauge system wasn't adopted universally; we would have had a safer network with greatly improved carrying capacity.
We still don't listen to good engineering advice, do we? I have a list.....

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Re: Old name revival
« Reply #13 on: 21 June 2018, 11:43:22 »

In the next few days/weeks the East Coast Mainline-currently run under the Virgin Trains name will be changed[don't know whether it'll be same company running it or a different one]and it will then become LNER-hardly an original name but there you go.Of course whether the service will improve or not is an entirely different kettle of fish.

The truly great days of the LNER after 1923 when it was formed, until the 1930's, were short and destined to dramatically decline alongside the fortunes of the coal, steel, and ship building industries throughout the North East of England with a major world depression and the steady loss of supremacy of the British Engineering empire.  Even WW2 war did not revive their fortunes as the railway was run ragged, with little to no compensation.  In the run up to Nationalisation on 1st January 1948 what had been the vital, key profit maker, freight traffic did not recover and left the railway company well in the red.

It is easy to forget in the days of constant media attention on the passenger carrying results of our railways in the 21st century, that the LNER, amongst others, had some famous named passenger trains in the 1930's, but for that operation it was the freight business that was vital for it's survival.  It was built for the transport of coal, steel and other industrial raw materials, and when that business went into terminal decline the passenger business could not rescue the overall business.  Passengers complain about the price of their tickets, but today the railways existence  relies very heavily on these receipts for their profitability, and only a massive return to moving freight by rail can reverse this trend.

Expect nothing different from the new LNER; the basis of the business is still the same as it was last week! ;)
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Re: Old name revival
« Reply #14 on: 21 June 2018, 11:46:34 »

Ok Lizzie, but for me he will always be GWR. What a pity that his broad gauge system wasn't adopted universally; we would have had a safer network with greatly improved carrying capacity.
We still don't listen to good engineering advice, do we? I have a list.....

Ron.

I agree entirely Ron, but you can blame the popularity of the other great 19th century British engineering names, the Stevenson's, for that "stupid" decision in 1845 that also kept much of Europe using the 4' 8 1/2" gauge. ::) :D ;)
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