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Re: Top 10 future classics in decline
« Reply #15 on: 03 September 2018, 21:59:52 »

Car tax is what's going to kill big engine cars , it's only going to get worse  :(

Not so, car tax for past few years has been based on ticket price. If over 40k you pay extra for 5 years, everything sub 40k (excluding electric stuff) is the same.

Car share buddy's 3.0 twin turbo petrol BMW is just £130/yr for road tax, less than half cost of my 3.2  >:(

So find a new car with a V8, with a sale price of sub £40k and it's cheapo tax.  :)
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Re: Top 10 future classics in decline
« Reply #16 on: 03 September 2018, 22:20:23 »

Tough to do.  :-\

Off the top of my head - Mustang V8.  :-\
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Re: Top 10 future classics in decline
« Reply #17 on: 03 September 2018, 23:37:49 »

Production of internal combustion engines is going to cease within 2o years or so. As things stand at the moment cars produced after that wont be subject to v.e.d.

So, it isnt likely to be car tax that kills big engined (or any engined) cars, but enforced obselescence.
No doubt there will be some kind of exemption for the relatively small classic scene, which may well be for wealthy nostalgic people.
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Re: Top 10 future classics in decline
« Reply #18 on: 03 September 2018, 23:51:57 »

Nah. I reckon supply and demand will sort it out long before cat tax kills em.

I mean, fundamentally, to get petrol, you have to go half way around the globe, dig down a mile or so and extract some toxic liquid. Then you refine it, which takes a lot of energy. Then you transport it half way round the world, store it underground and then pump it into another underground tank. Store it and then sell it.

Just as soon as the economies of scale disappear it'll be £5/litre before you know it. Just fine for an occasional classic, totally impractical for daily transport.

I'm sure Rods2 will be along shortly to explain how wrong I am because of EROI, or that this will cause the world to end.

Nevertheless I stand by my prediction ;)
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Re: Top 10 future classics in decline
« Reply #19 on: 04 September 2018, 00:59:07 »

Rightly or wrongly, that rationale was accepted some time ago, hence the decisions to stop production of internal combustion engines in the future.  ;)
My lifespan is likely to be similar (at best) to the i.c.e so Im not too bothered.  :D
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Re: Top 10 future classics in decline
« Reply #20 on: 04 September 2018, 14:27:50 »

Car tax is what's going to kill big engine cars , it's only going to get worse  :(

Not so, car tax for past few years has been based on ticket price. If over 40k you pay extra for 5 years, everything sub 40k (excluding electric stuff) is the same.

Car share buddy's 3.0 twin turbo petrol BMW is just £130/yr for road tax, less than half cost of my 3.2  >:(

So find a new car with a V8, with a sale price of sub £40k and it's cheapo tax.  :)
Not talking about new cars , old cars like late model V6 Rover 75s are very expensive to Tax , that's going to kill demand as banger economics are just not going to apply , and what about LEZ compliance ? £12.50 a day to drive in London and no doubt other local authorities will be going to follow suit , older polluting engines are going to become a liability
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Re: Top 10 future classics in decline
« Reply #21 on: 04 September 2018, 15:41:44 »

Rover 75 is hardly an old car ;D

Smelling of wee is not a measure of classic status ::)

If you truly want a banger, buy anything over 40 years old, service it, fit reasonable tyres and make sure that the brakes and lights work.
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Re: Top 10 future classics in decline
« Reply #22 on: 04 September 2018, 15:42:55 »

Rover 75 is hardly an old car ;D

Smelling of wee is not a measure of classic status ::)

If you truly want a banger, buy anything over 40 years old, service it, fit reasonable tyres and make sure that the brakes and lights work.

No, it was a no-cost option on those, IIRC. ;D
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Re: Top 10 future classics in decline
« Reply #23 on: 04 September 2018, 15:54:30 »

Rover 75 is hardly an old car ;D

Smelling of wee is not a measure of classic status ::)

If you truly want a banger, buy anything over 40 years old, service it, fit reasonable tyres and make sure that the brakes and lights work.


You missed out the most important part:


MAKE SURE YOU USE IT AS YOUR DAILY DRIVER! If you treat it as toy, then it will never be reliable.
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