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[Lizzie Zoom]

just bought a set of these
P7 Cinturato Blue good reviews

I have used 235/45R17 Pirelli P7 CINT 97W XL's for some years now and found them excellent in all conditions, but these would fall within Webby's "expensive" bracket.  I wonder what the difference is between the these tyres and the "Blue" version?

[Kevin Wood]

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No experience apparently of Toyos on here ?
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I used to run Toyo Proxes T1R's on mine. They were fine for stopping grip, wet or dry, good at speed (apparently )  and if I recall correctly the different tread pattern made them quite good in the snow.
The downside was that they were quite soft and wore out quicker than others I've had. I'm currently running Goodyear Eagles (which need replacing) but this is the third set I've had that have split in the tread grooves.
Currently trying to justify PS 4's but having done some pretty impressive big stops in the wet with the Goodyears I'm still not sure. 

Yeah there’s a lot of bad reviews re premature wear and poor wet grip. Not what I’m looking for I believe. It’s a shame cos I can get them decent prices

The T1R is a real "Marmite" tyre. Some swear by them, many hate them. I put a set on Emma's MX 5 and I'd say they are fun when pressing on in the dry but a nightmare in the wet. Ultimate grip level is not that high but they have quite soft sidewalls which means they give loads of "feel" close to the limits which allows you to explore them. The downside is that this impacts stability.

In the wet they are the opposite - unpredictable and not very inspiring of confidence.

Knowing how the Omega responds to tyres that promote instability, there's no way in a million years I'd put them on an Omega.

Actually, I wouldn't buy another set for any car, TBH.

[Sir Tigger KC]

G2000 got bad reviews tig 😂😂😂

The best reviews are the Kumhos...

My review was good Webby.....     For the price.... 

[ronnyd]

I had a full set of Nexan 1000,s and could not fault them on my estate
Just my findings

Agreed, i try not to drive like too much of a loon and my Nexens last very well. Around the 30k mark give or take.

[Shackeng]

I had a full set of Nexan 1000,s and could not fault them on my estate
Just my findings

Agreed, i try not to drive like too much of a loon TB and my Nexens last very well. Around the 30k mark give or take.

Fixed.

[tunnie]

I had Nexens, N6000's I think, personally I hated them, awful at basic traction when surface was even slightly damp in the 3.2.

Could light them up way to easily, even simply pulling away hard from a T junction.

[ronnyd]

I had Nexens, N6000's I think, personally I hated them, awful at basic traction when surface was even slightly damp in the 3.2.

Could light them up way to easily, even simply pulling away hard from a T junction.

You have a lot more horses than my humble Desmond.  (Tugs forelock and slinks away ) 

[Webby the Bear]

Guys really appreciate all the input. 👍

So far it’s the Kumhos for me. Based on price and reviews. As I mentioned before I am not looking for TB levels of grip; merely a good tyre for driving in the wet. Plus with these I can afford a brand new set.

One day when I’m loaded from working on cars (🤔😩) I’ll stick a set of Michelin’s on.

[Webby the Bear]

Ps is it the Kumho Ecsta HM KH31 that we are talking about 👍👍👍

[tunnie]

I had Nexens, N6000's I think, personally I hated them, awful at basic traction when surface was even slightly damp in the 3.2.

Could light them up way to easily, even simply pulling away hard from a T junction.

You have a lot more horses than my humble Desmond.  (Tugs forelock and slinks away ) 

Yeah the 3.2 power delivery means you need decent grip, suspect I may have liked them on my 2.2. 3.2 tends to delivery a lot of torque in one lump low down, not as smooth delivery as 3.0/2.5.

Ps is it the Kumho Ecsta HM KH31 that we are talking about 👍👍👍

Can you still get them? I had them on 2.2, bloody loved those tyres. Excellent wear rate, all around great grip, comfy, silent. Damn good tyre for the 2.2.

Had to replace them with KU39's as 31's no longer around. 

Trouble is Kumho's only a tenner away from premium tyre cost.

[Webby the Bear]

Thanks Tunnie. To be honest those were the tyres that came up on google search. I’ll keep looking though 👍👍👍

[Sir Tigger KC]

Can you still get them? I had them on 2.2, bloody loved those tyres.

You really need to get out more Tunnie!     

[Webby the Bear]

https://www.blackcircles.com/catalogue/kumho/kh31/225/55/R16/W/95/m?tyre=33876921&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7I2R_ZCv3gIVg813Ch1yeQqrEAQYASABEgJoFfD_BwE

Maybe there’d be some oddity when I got to check out. But £62 is bang on budget 👍👍👍

[YZ250]

https://www.blackcircles.com/catalogue/kumho/kh31/225/55/R16/W/95/m?tyre=33876921&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7I2R_ZCv3gIVg813Ch1yeQqrEAQYASABEgJoFfD_BwE

Maybe there’d be some oddity when I got to check out. But £62 is bang on budget 👍👍👍

Your thread prompted me to search for new tyres last night and I was just about to buy four Michelin Pilot Sport 4 from Black Circles when a FLASHCODE popped up. Typed in the code and saved over £40 in total on that site and £73 against my local supplier so thanks for that. 
My usual local supplier is fitting them on Friday. 

[78bex]

Hardly a swerve, and you got the pallet with at least one wheel

It hit my N/S fog lamp & scored the lens