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[Kevin Wood]

Perhaps before passing judgment we should actually read the documents...

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/publications/draft-agreement-withdrawal-uk-eu-agreed-negotiators-level-14-november-2018-including-text-article-132_en

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/publications/political-declaration-setting-out-framework-future-relationship-between-european-union-and-united-kingdom_en

 

TL;DR 

[STEMO]

That little twa twerp Gove is now singing the praises of this deal. HTF does he keep getting elected to parliament? He changes his mind more often than I change my undercrackers. No...hang on....more often than that. 

[STEMO]

After all the ranting and raving, this might just get through. Then we can all have a nice cup of tea. 

[Sir Tigger KC]

After all the ranting and raving, this might just get through. Then we can all have a nice cup of tea. 

Hope not! 

Micron said yesterday that he would veto any trade deal that didn't maintain current access to Britain's waters for the French fishing fleet, and this would mean Britain would be stuck in the Customs Union.

There he's said it.  They will use the absurd backstop where we have no legal unilateral right of exit, as maximum leverage to get what they want.  Anyone who thinks that they will negotiate a mutually favourable deal in good faith to avoid the backstop are fools, and yet they'll all be on the radio and telly for the next two weeks telling us exactly that! 

Tell a lie often enough....

[STEMO]

If it does get through, the middle aged and older amongst us will lick our wounds and be resentful for years to come. The youngsters will think they have saved us from solitary confinement until, in years to come, they realise they have actually sold our souls.

[STEMO]

Vlad is watching and, realising what a f*ucking mess the west is in at the moment, has decided to play games with Ukraine.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Vlad is watching and, realising what a f*ucking mess the west is in at the moment, has decided to play games with Ukraine.

If Russia invades us don't expect any help from the EU once we leave.

[Olympia5776]

Yeah ,but if the bear invaded any of them they'd soon come bleating for our help , again.

[STEMO]

Vlad is watching and, realising what a f*ucking mess the west is in at the moment, has decided to play games with Ukraine.

If Russia invades us don't expect any help from the EU once we leave.

They'd have to cross the EU to get to us. That would give us around 6 hours to prepare. 

[Kevin Wood]

Vlad is watching and, realising what a f*ucking mess the west is in at the moment, has decided to play games with Ukraine.

If Russia invades us don't expect any help from the EU once we leave.

They'd have to cross the EU to get to us. That would give us around 6 hours to prepare. 

But the EU is going to get its own army - so we'd be alerted by the rumble of tanks reversing through the channel tunnel.

[Varche]

Vlad is watching and, realising what a f*ucking mess the west is in at the moment, has decided to play games with Ukraine.

If Russia invades us don't expect any help from the EU once we leave.

Theywouldnt bother with Britain. Havent you heard Remainers describe us wholesomely as an insignificant island. No Germany would be a better target and they havent got an army yet.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Vlad is watching and, realising what a f*ucking mess the west is in at the moment, has decided to play games with Ukraine.

If Russia invades us don't expect any help from the EU once we leave.

Theywouldnt bother with Britain. Havent you heard Remainers describe us wholesomely as an insignificant island. No Germany would be a better target and they havent got an army yet.

The most resistance the Russians would meet on their westward advance, would be from left behind WW1 ordinance in Flanders on their way to CheeseEatingSurrenderMonkeyland! 

[Varche]

Just seen your poll doctor Gollum.

It highlights the problem withwording of referendums / polls.

How about

1. Mays marvellous deal

2. Chaos of no deal

3. Uncertainty of negotiating a deal without ludicrous backstop.

I suspect for those words option one would receive most votes.


Gaining concensus is an every day scenario in business, life and  politics.  Todo it effectively is an art. The UK is horribly divided by Brexit and I cannot see those wounds healing quickly.

[Doctor Gollum]

The thing is, the EU will be carrying without us regardless of what Parliament decides.

Accepting the deal and moving forward by using the Transition Period to negotiate the finer details of each point of contention is the only reasonable approach to the situation.

This needs to be done by a unilateral parliamentary group unconstrained by personal motive. Once the Transition Period is concluded, the dust needs to settle before a General Election...

So I suppose the real question is how do we go about forming a unilateral government to oversee the UK for the next four or five years in order to move us forward?

[STEMO]

The thing is, the EU will be carrying without us regardless of what Parliament decides.

Accepting the deal and moving forward by using the Transition Period to negotiate the finer details of each point of contention is the only reasonable approach to the situation.

This needs to be done by a unilateral parliamentary group unconstrained by personal motive. Once the Transition Period is concluded, the dust needs to settle before a General Election...

So I suppose the real question is how do we go about forming a unilateral government to oversee the UK for the next four or five years in order to move us forward?

That's the only reasonable approach.....according to you. Fortunately, that approach has no chance of success. Out means out, and f*uck them.