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Re: secrets of the lost Fords never made
« Reply #1 on: 18 November 2018, 08:39:13 »

Cheers for that. I love this stuff 👍

I have a question re the love for the Capri.

My auntie n uncle used to take me to the rugby when I was 8 (in 1990) and they used to pick me up in a red Capri. I remember thinking it was shit 😂 but obviously they came back in to fashion as they got older?
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Re: secrets of the lost Fords never made
« Reply #2 on: 18 November 2018, 08:41:43 »

It was a misprint when they named it - should have been Ford Crapi.  ;D

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Re: secrets of the lost Fords never made
« Reply #3 on: 18 November 2018, 08:56:02 »

I had a red Crapi for a while. Your young mind was quite observant. They were indeed shite. A cortina that looked a bit sporty.
All old cars come back into fashion to some extent, due to nostalgia, but for some inexplicable reason, this applies much more to Fords than other old mass produced cars.  :)
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Re: secrets of the lost Fords never made
« Reply #4 on: 18 November 2018, 08:57:11 »

The Capri[not to be confused with the earlier Consul Capri] was I believe based on the MkII Cortina floorpan/chassis.Never owned a Capri but drove plenty and I must say the Fuego[of which I also drove plenty but never owned one]was a far superior car as was the Alfa GTV6 that I did own.Capri could[with the bigger engines-the 1300 versions were just slugs]be "tail happy" and with the V6 versions the front brakes weren't really up to the job,hence a lot of owners changed the calipers to those off the BL Princess.
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Re: secrets of the lost Fords never made
« Reply #5 on: 18 November 2018, 09:34:35 »

I like the targa Sierra, although the rear end looks a bit clunky.

Also the facelift Sierra Cosworth 3dr hatch... 8) 8) 8)

Always fancied an Escort Cosworth estate in Citrine Yellow :D and a Granada Cosworth 4x4 saloon in Smokestone or Levant Grey 8)... No accounting for taste.
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Re: secrets of the lost Fords never made
« Reply #6 on: 18 November 2018, 09:53:35 »

Cheers for that. I love this stuff 👍

I have a question re the love for the Capri.

My auntie n uncle used to take me to the rugby when I was 8 (in 1990) and they used to pick me up in a red Capri. I remember thinking it was shit 😂 but obviously they came back in to fashion as they got older?

I owned a black MK3 3.0S Capri for over five years and loved it.  :y Very predictable handling and I was gutted when it had to go. The boot was just too small to cope with the kids buggies so I sold it and bought a Moonraker Blue SD1 V8 Vitesse Twin Plenun. Big mistake, by the time I sold it, if rust was gold I'd be a trillionaire.  ::)  Good engine though, sounded the nuts with a silencer removed.  :)

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Re: secrets of the lost Fords never made
« Reply #7 on: 18 November 2018, 11:24:04 »

The Capri[not to be confused with the earlier Consul Capri] was I believe based on the MkII Cortina floorpan/chassis.Never owned a Capri but drove plenty and I must say the Fuego[of which I also drove plenty but never owned one]was a far superior car as was the Alfa GTV6 that I did own.Capri could[with the bigger engines-the 1300 versions were just slugs]be "tail happy" and with the V6 versions the front brakes weren't really up to the job,hence a lot of owners changed the calipers to those off the BL Princess.


Hmmm, where to start:


there are bits of mk2 Cortina in the Capri, but a lot more mk1 Escort: the only difference in the front suspension is the track width for example.


Capris don't like changing direction once settled into a turn, but once you've got that covered aren't a problem


Capri brakes are poor, and many were fitted with Princess calipers. But, they don't fit under 13" wheels without grinding them down a bit(and the castings aren't consistent enough to thiat safely in my experience) and the discs are slightly too small in diameter for the pads. I've seen more than one Capri so equipped boil the grease out of the wheel bearings. Increasing the diameter and thickness of the disc from the stock 247mm/12mm(247x20 for 2.8i venteds) is what's actually required but isn't quite so easy to do. The brakes are not helped by the rear mechanisms frequently being seized solid: a long pedal and ineffective hand brake is the sign of this. Fixing it, an hour's work, makes a huge difference.


I never found the Alfa, Manta or Porsche 924/944 to be any better than a much cheaper, more comfortable and better looking Capri. But this was back when a nice 2.8i was easily a sub £1000 car.
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Re: secrets of the lost Fords never made
« Reply #8 on: 18 November 2018, 14:24:17 »

Cheers for that. I love this stuff 👍

I have a question re the love for the Capri.

My auntie n uncle used to take me to the rugby when I was 8 (in 1990) and they used to pick me up in a red Capri. I remember thinking it was shit 😂 but obviously they came back in to fashion as they got older?

I owned a black MK3 3.0S Capri for over five years and loved it.  :y Very predictable handling and I was gutted when it had to go. The boot was just too small to cope with the kids buggies so I sold it and bought a Moonraker Blue SD1 V8 Vitesse Twin Plenun. Big mistake, by the time I sold it, if rust was gold I'd be a trillionaire.  ::)  Good engine though, sounded the nuts with a silencer removed.  :)

Back in the mid nineties a woman I know owned a 2.8i with a 5 speed box.

It needed  thrashing to within an inch of it's life to have any meaningful acceleration due to a combination of leggy gearing and a lack of torque at low revs. I know the V6 Essex lump has been described as a 'boat anchor' but at least it had good low speed torque.
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Re: secrets of the lost Fords never made
« Reply #9 on: 18 November 2018, 14:29:20 »


Back in the mid nineties a woman I know owned a 2.8i with a 5 speed box.

It needed  thrashing to within an inch of it's life to have any meaningful acceleration due to a combination of leggy gearing and a lack of torque at low revs. I know the V6 Essex lump has been described as a 'boat anchor' but at least it had good low speed torque.


That's the difference, under 100mph a 3.0l(which is on the same gearing) is quicker. But the fifth gear makes the 2.8i better over 100. There are two easy fixes to this: fitting a 2.0l diff(3.44 instead of 3.02) is the simple one, but  a 2.9 engine is the best
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Re: secrets of the lost Fords never made
« Reply #10 on: 18 November 2018, 18:36:28 »

owned 7 ;D 3 litre capri,s mk1 an 2 and a rs2.6 left hooker that had an appetite for breaking rocker arms,ten min fix at the side of the road to fix, till the next time i over revved it,at the time it was just an unusual capri :o and i swapped it for the first of my 11 rover SD1 v8 models! doh

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Re: secrets of the lost Fords never made
« Reply #11 on: 18 November 2018, 18:43:02 »

Either you're a former banger racer or a glutton for punishment  :o

Mind you, I have had seven Granadas and seven Omegas  :-[
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Re: secrets of the lost Fords never made
« Reply #12 on: 18 November 2018, 18:49:25 »

I've had 10, maybe 11 but I'm pretty sure it's 10, Capris and only one was a V6. That was a £600 2.8 Special which quickly got a 12v 2.9 to solve the issues. The others were daily drivers when I was doing 30,000 miles a year, and the most expensive cost £250 - twice what the next one had. I wish I still had the last three I owned, as they would be worth about £12k!
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Re: secrets of the lost Fords never made
« Reply #13 on: 18 November 2018, 18:53:26 »

My mate had a black Granada. G reg and two tone if I remember rightly (lower portion was dark grey iirc. It had probably the most comfortable seats I’ve ever sat in. And literally everything was electric. This on a freakin’ G reg.!
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Re: secrets of the lost Fords never made
« Reply #14 on: 18 November 2018, 19:04:46 »

Talk of Capri's always reminds me of a girl called Amanda that me and my mates all lusted after when we were about 19 or so.  :-*

She was hot, knew it and thought she was too good for the likes of us!  :(   Anyway she got a new boyfriend, who was a bit older, drove a 2.8i Capri and was a bit of a self-abuser to be honest.  ::)

One day walking past his car in the car car park we spotted a set of footprints on the inside of the windscreen!  :)  Oh how we laughed!  ;D
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