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[TheBoy]

maybe i'm wrong, though it was 3.2...

actually, you're all right, it is 3.0l - its got an egr 

[AndyVXR300]

Have a feeling it is now on flea-bay

[cem_devecioglu]

 :-?

bad news.. 

but I'm sure you will sort anyway..

will cost you though :-/

[tunnie]

ooooops!

[smoothomega]

 :-/

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Sorry to hear of your woes James!

These cars can be right buggers; give me kids anyday!!

[markey mark]

Sorry to hear of your woes James!

These cars can be right buggers; give me kids anyday!!

swop you a 17 year old lizzie for your omega !! 

[JamesV6CDX]

No, the MV6 is not on fleabay. The Elite is.

It's a 3.0

I will catch up on this thread tomorrow

[p j morgan]

sorry to hear about your probs james you will sort it !

[JamesV6CDX]

I don't believe in coincidences

I agree - I work on the same principle, but however much I think about it, I can't imagine how I could have done anything to cause it.


I keep beating myself up wondering if I did something - Everything was fitted spotlessly clean - set correctly - torqued correctly.

I didn't touch the oil cooler - and it was fine before, so it can't have "co-incidently" leaked...

Sump plug all intact.

When it blew - it dumped LOADS of oil on the road - indicating it hadn't all leaked out, and caused the failure.

Can't get my head around this one, other than bloody bad luck!

It's getting a bit like your tractor TB - it's personal - and it WILL be fixed !!! 

[TheBoy]

I don't believe in coincidences

I agree - I work on the same principle, but however much I think about it, I can't imagine how I could have done anything to cause it.


I keep beating myself up wondering if I did something - Everything was fitted spotlessly clean - set correctly - torqued correctly.

I didn't touch the oil cooler - and it was fine before, so it can't have "co-incidently" leaked...

Sump plug all intact.

When it blew - it dumped LOADS of oil on the road - indicating it hadn't all leaked out, and caused the failure.

Can't get my head around this one, other than bloody bad luck!

It's getting a bit like your tractor TB - it's personal - and it WILL be fixed !!! 

It does smack of lack of oil (not necessarily in the sump), so worth checking oil pick-up/strainer if resusing anything of the engine.  But then if the conrod is hanging out of the block, you ain't using that engine

[Omegatoy]

I don't believe in coincidences

I agree - I work on the same principle, but however much I think about it, I can't imagine how I could have done anything to cause it.


I keep beating myself up wondering if I did something - Everything was fitted spotlessly clean - set correctly - torqued correctly.

I didn't touch the oil cooler - and it was fine before, so it can't have "co-incidently" leaked...

Sump plug all intact.

When it blew - it dumped LOADS of oil on the road - indicating it hadn't all leaked out, and caused the failure.

Can't get my head around this one, other than bloody bad luck!

It's getting a bit like your tractor TB - it's personal - and it WILL be fixed !!! 

dont beat yyourself up James, it aint your fault!!  hers a poss scenario but i wouyldnt mind betting its the right one,
now i dont know who you b ought the car off/ and im not blaming them in any way
but here is how i see it and believe me i have seen many cars go this way!!!
the headgaskets were gone correct? so this means that water was in the combustion chambers or being forced into the oil gallerys on the head, either way it will have the same effect, and that is water gets mixed with the oil, which is not a good lubricant for big ends, so we dont know how ling the gaskets were gone or how many miles it has done with a water and oil mix in the sump, the previous owner may not have known either
as a lot of the water will be burnt/condensed  off as the oil runs
 very hot, however enough of it will score the bigends and mains, if the oil was changed just before you got or indeed a while before you got it there wouldnt be much siign of the impending disaster, as fresh oil will take up the slack in the system till it gets really hot when the tolerances will simoly become to large and the bigend will let go,
so what i am sayimg is a motor that has haed gasket gone will often blow its bottom end if used for anytime with the headgasket gone!!! unless yiou had pulled the sump off and checked a big end and a main bearing for scoring you wouldnt have known ,
hope that makes sense to all
and answers a question?
seen it to many times to know it happens a lot!!
Omegatoy

[TheBoy]

I don't believe in coincidences

I agree - I work on the same principle, but however much I think about it, I can't imagine how I could have done anything to cause it.


I keep beating myself up wondering if I did something - Everything was fitted spotlessly clean - set correctly - torqued correctly.

I didn't touch the oil cooler - and it was fine before, so it can't have "co-incidently" leaked...

Sump plug all intact.

When it blew - it dumped LOADS of oil on the road - indicating it hadn't all leaked out, and caused the failure.

Can't get my head around this one, other than bloody bad luck!

It's getting a bit like your tractor TB - it's personal - and it WILL be fixed !!! 

dont beat yyourself up James, it aint your fault!!  hers a poss scenario but i wouyldnt mind betting its the right one,
now i dont know who you b ought the car off/ and im not blaming them in any way
but here is how i see it and believe me i have seen many cars go this way!!!
the headgaskets were gone correct? so this means that water was in the combustion chambers or being forced into the oil gallerys on the head, either way it will have the same effect, and that is water gets mixed with the oil, which is not a good lubricant for big ends, so we dont know how ling the gaskets were gone or how many miles it has done with a water and oil mix in the sump, the previous owner may not have known either
as a lot of the water will be burnt/condensed  off as the oil runs
 very hot, however enough of it will score the bigends and mains, if the oil was changed just before you got or indeed a while before you got it there wouldnt be much siign of the impending disaster, as fresh oil will take up the slack in the system till it gets really hot when the tolerances will simoly become to large and the bigend will let go,
so what i am sayimg is a motor that has haed gasket gone will often blow its bottom end if used for anytime with the headgasket gone!!! unless yiou had pulled the sump off and checked a big end and a main bearing for scoring you wouldnt have known ,
hope that makes sense to all
and answers a question?
seen it to many times to know it happens a lot!!
Omegatoy

The HG failure on the V6 is normally just coolant ways leaking to outside of block (as it was in this case). The firerings remained in tact, and the oil appear unaffected - I did see and drive this car before the HG was replaced. It went OK (needed a good service imho), certainly nothing to suggest any issue at all with firerings, and both the oil and 'water' (no antifreeze in it) were clear of contamination.

I'm still of the opinion maybe a bit of gasket (or other crud - I bet the coolant ways were in a mess) dropped down the oil return into sump, eventually getting sucked up into oil pickup....

[Marks DTM Calib]

James, did you drop the sump pan after the work to check the strainer (I cant remember)

[Kevin Wood]

James, did you drop the sump pan after the work to check the strainer (I cant remember)

It did have evidence of a lot of "bathroom sealent" IIRC. 

Bad news, James, and must be gutting after doing so much work on it.

Kevin