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[TheBoy]

[link=http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1157117391/0]Plug change for 2.2[/link]

[TheBoy]

Must be honest, didn't think the gap on multi-electrode plugs could be changed.

Excellent guide

[Auto Addict]

Must be honest, didn't think the gap on multi-electrode plugs could be changed.

Excellent guide

If I'd got Autodata, I think that's what it would say....

Thanks.

[Allenm]

Quality guide AA ! Love the tool labels  

You can almost hear the haynes guides sobbing!

[Taxi_Driver]

Excellent guide AA  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Wish my engine was that clean   I bet you dont even have to wash your hands after working on your engine.

Im guilty of not using a torque wrench as well  

Tho I can add a bit of advice to your guide......do NOT attempt to change the plugs when the engine is still hot....apart from the plugs being a sod to get out......you also burn your fingers trying to get the plugs out of the plug socket  

[Auto Addict]

Excellent guide AA  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Wish my engine was that clean   I bet you dont even have to wash your hands after working on your engine.

Im guilty of not using a torque wrench as well  

Tho I can add a bit of advice to your guide......do NOT attempt to change the plugs when the engine is still hot....apart from the plugs being a sod to get out......you also burn your fingers trying to get the plugs out of the plug socket  

I know, you take it to the local garage and watch the lad burn his fingers....

[Taxi_Driver]

Excellent guide AA  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Wish my engine was that clean   I bet you dont even have to wash your hands after working on your engine.

Im guilty of not using a torque wrench as well  

Tho I can add a bit of advice to your guide......do NOT attempt to change the plugs when the engine is still hot....apart from the plugs being a sod to get out......you also burn your fingers trying to get the plugs out of the plug socket  

I know, you take it to the local garage and watch the lad burn his fingers....

No, im talking from 1st hand experience AA   its only the oil i wont change myself...plus lot more fun watching somebody else burn their fingers  

[Auto Addict]

I'll ask Jamie to amend it to include 'Do not attempt to change the spark plugs when the engine is hot'.

Thanks TD. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

[tunnie]

Great Guide AA, almost as good as mine  

Seriously though, very clear. Well Done  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]


Just a suggestion? - Make the arrows slightly bigger??, its just a little struggle to see.

[Auto Addict]

Great Guide AA, almost as good as mine  

Seriously though, very clear. Well Done  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]


Just a suggestion? - Make the arrows slightly bigger??, its just a little struggle to see.

Sorry God.

[Auto Addict]

By the way, just got up have we tunnie?

[tunnie]

Don't let it happen again.  

[tunnie]

Yaawwwn er umm what?  

Yup, i think 6AM is a very reasonable time to      ge   t    up.

Ohh

Its 6PM  

[Auto Addict]

Don't let it happen again.  

Will modify the piccies, oh great one.

[tunnie]

Don't let it happen again.  

Will modify the piccies, oh great one.

Loyality, will be reward.  

[Taxi_Driver]

Great Guide AA, almost as good as mine  

Seriously though, very clear. Well Done  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]


Just a suggestion? - Make the arrows slightly bigger??, its just a little struggle to see.

Sorry God.

Yes AA you must try harder next time  

[Taxi_Driver]

I'll ask Jamie to amend it to include 'Do not attempt to change the spark plugs when the engine is hot'.

Thanks TD. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

I think i has summat to do with the laws of physics....hot things expand and therefore plugs are in there tighter than a knats arse tight things are....plus hot things are generally well ummm hot  

[Taxi_Driver]

Yaawwwn er umm what?  

Yup, i think 6AM is a very reasonable time to      ge   t    up.

Ohh

Its 6PM  

You remind me off my black lab Tunnie  
She wakes up for breakfast and has a 20 min walk.....then snoozes all day.....wakes up again for dinner an another 20 min walk....then snoozes again all evening.....pops out briefly b4 i go to bed for a wee....then sleeps all night....

Only difference is i can see you probably dont for two 20 min walks a day and probably dont go outside for a wee  

[tunnie]

Yaawwwn er umm what?  

Yup, i think 6AM is a very reasonable time to      ge   t    up.

Ohh

Its 6PM  

You remind me off my black lab Tunnie  
She wakes up for breakfast and has a 20 min walk.....then snoozes all day.....wakes up again for dinner an another 20 min walk....then snoozes again all evening.....pops out briefly b4 i go to bed for a wee....then sleeps all night....

Only difference is i can see you probably dont for two 20 min walks a day and probably dont go outside for a wee  

Very true!!  

Our Springer is only 3, so she's boucing around all the time.

[Taxi_Driver]

Yaawwwn er umm what?  

Yup, i think 6AM is a very reasonable time to      ge   t    up.

Ohh

Its 6PM  

You remind me off my black lab Tunnie  
She wakes up for breakfast and has a 20 min walk.....then snoozes all day.....wakes up again for dinner an another 20 min walk....then snoozes again all evening.....pops out briefly b4 i go to bed for a wee....then sleeps all night....

Only difference is i can see you probably dont for two 20 min walks a day and probably dont go outside for a wee  

Very true!!  

Our Springer is only 3, so she's boucing around all the time.

Mines only 4....but a lab is food orientated....food shes happy....no food shes asleep  

[tunnie]

same here, as soon as i get a crisp packet or something russles, or she can smell. she's hovering around me.

She could be fast asleep, but as soon as she hears russle russle, bam she's next to me wanting bits..

[Auto Addict]

No wonder you lot get your post counts up, what's this got to do with spark plugs.....

You'll all be talking about fish and chips next

[Taxi_Driver]

No wonder you lot get your post counts up, what's this got to do with spark plugs.....

You'll all be talking about fish and chips next

Well....if my car is parked right outside my house......she does sit and watch me change the plugs from the front door  

Fish an chips.....nahh....now kebabs, where do i start...

[Auto Addict]

Does anyone else have problems seeing the arrows like tunnie?

They show up perfectly clear on my computer.

I did read on one post he needs a new computer.

.....and God said come forth...but he came fifth......

[Taxi_Driver]

Does anyone else have problems seeing the arrows like tunnie?

They show up perfectly clear on my computer.

I did read on one post he needs a new computer.

.....and God said come forth...but he came fifth......

I can see the arrows ok   and thats on a tiny laptop screen.
Its probably the blinding light coming of your shiney engine AA  

Right gota dash now....going to ipswich in a bit....have a good day everyone  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

[tunnie]

Does anyone else have problems seeing the arrows like tunnie?

They show up perfectly clear on my computer.

I did read on one post he needs a new computer.

.....and God said come forth...but he came fifth......

Could be the fact i am running a very high res here, 1400 x 1050.

The photos of my brake bleed and oil change look quite small acutally!  

But if its clear then its probably my silly high resolution, don't worry about it AA.

[Markjay]

Well done, AA, we are now waiting for the cambelt change How2...  

1600x1200 here, no problem with arrows, and the pictures are great.

[Markjay]

Just for the record, the GM Part Number for the spark plugs according to Trade Club:

2.0/2.2 (twin electrode) (GM09) P/N 9195109 / Retail £3.08 / Trade £2.43 / Trade Club £1.73 (+VAT)

And just to re-cap something I mentioned some time ago when I changed my plugs on the V6, while we all know that the GM/Vauxhalls plugs are Bosch re-badged, I was still quite surprised when I saw that the original factory-fitted plugs on my engine were actually Bosch-branded, not GM/Vauxhall...

[Markjay]

One last point -

There have been mixed views whether spark plugs should be fitted dry or with copper grease on the threads (which is what we used to do in the 'old days' to make sure they don't seaze), but since the factory-fitted ones that I removed had copper grease on them, I used copper grease on the new ones as well. But as I said there have been mixed views about this so make up your own mind...

[TheBoy]

not doing them up too tight is the other way to stop seizing. I've seen vx monkeys really putting a lot of effort into over-tightening...

[Auto Addict]

don't worry about it AA.

I'm not

[Auto Addict]

Just for the record, the GM Part Number for the spark plugs according to Trade Club:

2.0/2.2 (twin electrode) (GM09) P/N 9195109 / Retail £3.08 / Trade £2.43 / Trade Club £1.73 (+VAT)

And just to re-cap something I mentioned some time ago when I changed my plugs on the V6, while we all know that the GM/Vauxhalls plugs are Bosch re-badged, I was still quite surprised when I saw that the original factory-fitted plugs on my engine were actually Bosch-branded, not GM/Vauxhall...

That's interesting, the one's I took out were badged GM, supposedly changed by the dealer at the last service.

As we are well aware, you should take your car to the dealer to have it serviced properly
Plug 1 must have been just past finger tight.
Plug 2 I thought I was going to have to put an extension bar on it, but it gave in the end.
Plug 3 was just a touch tighter than plug 1.
Plug 4 was just a bit looser than plug 2.

The gaps in each of the plugs I removed were all over the place, and, bear in mind they have only been in for about 4K.

I set all the gaps in the new plugs to the correct tolerance, and torqued them to the correct setting.

All I can say is, what a difference, the car ticks over better, and seems to respond better.

By the way MJ, those prices, each, or for 4?

[TheBoy]

By the way MJ, those prices, each, or for 4?

each

[Taxi_Driver]

I was still quite surprised when I saw that the original factory-fitted plugs on my engine were actually Bosch-branded, not GM/Vauxhall...

Probably run out in the Factory MJ and popped out to their local 'Halfords' to get some more  

[Taxi_Driver]

Just for the record, the GM Part Number for the spark plugs according to Trade Club:

2.0/2.2 (twin electrode) (GM09) P/N 9195109 / Retail £3.08 / Trade £2.43 / Trade Club £1.73 (+VAT)

And just to re-cap something I mentioned some time ago when I changed my plugs on the V6, while we all know that the GM/Vauxhalls plugs are Bosch re-badged, I was still quite surprised when I saw that the original factory-fitted plugs on my engine were actually Bosch-branded, not GM/Vauxhall...

That's interesting, the one's I took out were badged GM, supposedly changed by the dealer at the last service.

As we are well aware, you should take your car to the dealer to have it serviced properly
Plug 1 must have been just past finger tight.
Plug 2 I thought I was going to have to put an extension bar on it, but it gave in the end.
Plug 3 was just a touch tighter than plug 1.
Plug 4 was just a bit looser than plug 2.

The gaps in each of the plugs I removed were all over the place, and, bear in mind they have only been in for about 4K.

I set all the gaps in the new plugs to the correct tolerance, and torqued them to the correct setting.

All I can say is, what a difference, the car ticks over better, and seems to respond better.

By the way MJ, those prices, each, or for 4?

What were the gaps like on the new ones you put in AA?
They usually say 1.0mm on the boxes, I dont check them   I assume they are 1.0mm and just bung em in.

[Auto Addict]

Just for the record, the GM Part Number for the spark plugs according to Trade Club:

2.0/2.2 (twin electrode) (GM09) P/N 9195109 / Retail £3.08 / Trade £2.43 / Trade Club £1.73 (+VAT)

And just to re-cap something I mentioned some time ago when I changed my plugs on the V6, while we all know that the GM/Vauxhalls plugs are Bosch re-badged, I was still quite surprised when I saw that the original factory-fitted plugs on my engine were actually Bosch-branded, not GM/Vauxhall...

That's interesting, the one's I took out were badged GM, supposedly changed by the dealer at the last service.

As we are well aware, you should take your car to the dealer to have it serviced properly
Plug 1 must have been just past finger tight.
Plug 2 I thought I was going to have to put an extension bar on it, but it gave in the end.
Plug 3 was just a touch tighter than plug 1.
Plug 4 was just a bit looser than plug 2.

The gaps in each of the plugs I removed were all over the place, and, bear in mind they have only been in for about 4K.

I set all the gaps in the new plugs to the correct tolerance, and torqued them to the correct setting.

All I can say is, what a difference, the car ticks over better, and seems to respond better.

By the way MJ, those prices, each, or for 4?

What were the gaps like on the new ones you put in AA?
They usually say 1.0mm on the boxes, I dont check them   I assume they are 1.0mm and just bung em in.

2 of them were OK, the other 2 were a very loose 1.0mm.

[Auto Addict]

By the way MJ, those prices, each, or for 4?

each

I paid 2.73 each Halfords trade.

[Hillper]

Great guide AA.  Thanks!

[Markjay]

By the way MJ, those prices, each, or for 4?

each

Indeed

[Markjay]

That's interesting, the one's I took out were badged GM, supposedly changed by the dealer at the last service.

As we are well aware, you should take your car to the dealer to have it serviced properly
Plug 1 must have been just past finger tight.
Plug 2 I thought I was going to have to put an extension bar on it, but it gave in the end.
Plug 3 was just a touch tighter than plug 1.
Plug 4 was just a bit looser than plug 2.

The gaps in each of the plugs I removed were all over the place, and, bear in mind they have only been in for about 4K.

I set all the gaps in the new plugs to the correct tolerance, and torqued them to the correct setting.

All I can say is, what a difference, the car ticks over better, and seems to respond better.

By the way MJ, those prices, each, or for 4?

So did you change the spark plugs 4k after the Vx dealr did?  

Well I suppose that at around a tenner for materials and for the fun of having it done, it was worth it...

[Markjay]

Also, I though that all like the 4-electrode ones, all multi-electrode plugs were non-adjustable, but if you say Autodata has it as 1.0mm, I will not argue with them  

[Auto Addict]

So did you change the spark plugs 4k after the Vx dealr did?  

Well I suppose that at around a tenner for materials and for the fun of having it done, it was worth it...

Yes, I changed the plugs 4K after the dealer did, and am I pleased that I have.

If that is the state of the plugs after 4K, then I shall be changing them again in another 4K.

I wish now that I had posted a picture of the state of the plugs after 4K for you all to look at.