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Re: Parliament is not prorogued
« Reply #75 on: 25 September 2019, 20:15:14 »

Boris has begged them to propose a no confidence motion in his Govt. today, and they refuse to do it. We are through the looking glass folks.

Yep, I'm just waiting for the mad hater to turn up, and a white rabbit :o :o ;)

Wake me up please when this mad, mad nightmare of a dream is over!

Monty Python would have done a wonderful sketch on this; perhaps a Dead Parliament sketch!! ;D ;D
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Re: Parliament is not prorogued
« Reply #76 on: 25 September 2019, 20:17:56 »

We are now effectively ruled by the politicians in the Supreme Court, who unlike the Supreme Court judges in the US who have to place themselves under public scrutiny in the Senate (HoL), but are subject to being elected by elected politicians. In the UK they are appointed. IMV we are now ruled by an 11 person #SupremeCourtJunta. The only parallel I can think of is the 1967-74 rule by the 3 colonels in the #GreekMilitaryJunta where they installed themselves in a coup to save the people from themselves.

IMV the trashing of our unwritten constitution which has trashed our democracy has been done at the government level so we can no longer consider the UK a democracy or a constitutional monarchy :-\, where the Queen was not required to give her Royal Assent to it:

1. The speaker & the Tory rebel MPs overturning SO40 where it is the elected government that decides parliament's business, not the minor parties, this trashes centuries of constitutional president & makes governments & our democracy unworkable.
2. The fact the 'impartial' speaker introduced this and is no longer 'impartial' trashes centuries of president for our unwritten constitution & make him now the most important arbiter on deciding parliament's and government's business.
3. An important part of our former democracy is anybody can apply to the courts to have a decision made over a point of law & many governments have had to improve laws as a result, but judges cannot and must not ever make new laws on the fly (that is parliament's job), to suit their political views and then apply them retrospectively to make something illegal. IMV this firmly puts the #SupremeCourtJunta in the territory of despots who run banana republics.
4. The LimpDims / CaMoron fixed term act is a disaster & means that once a government is a minority it can be kept as a zombee government for as long as the minor parties think they can't win a GE or the 5 years is up. We could end up with no effective government (other that Ginia Miller & the #SupremeCourtJunta) until May 2022. The only other country that has for years had no functioning government is that paragon of law abiding virtue, Somalia which we are now going to unfortunately be compared to.

I knew with May's undermining and trying to set aside of the 17.4m #Brexit leave voters that anti-democratic forces were being unleashed. Corbyn & his cabal have been maneuvering with their 'short term unity government' to use it to set up his Marxist dictatorship & I can't see the how or why this is going to end or when, if ever, & if or how a working democracy will be restored?

A general election won't solve anything not due to where the country is split, but because if it is the remain parties that lose (and they probably will) they will never accept the result & decocracies can't work if the losers never concede defeat. Where elections are like modern sports reasonably civilised rules based contents, like democracies but both are also brutal winner takes all contests. By politicians replacing democracy, we all know what comes next, real no rules, blood sport gladiatorial contests. Like I said previously in hot civil wars we all have to pick a side as fathers & sons, mothers & daughters & brothers & sisters all end up split & end up fighting on different sides, it is classed as the most divisive, brutal & bloody type of war there is. :(

Does anybody know any ultra-remainers? If so, please can you get them to explain to me the attraction of being a colony of the foreign Brussels' dictatorship, beyond the promise of the reward of 30 pieces of silver from the EU and changing your name to Judas? Franco would have been proud during the Spanish civil war where he was attacking Madrid with four columns with a fifth inside. The EU's fifth column within the UK is much bigger. >:( >:( >:(
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Re: Parliament is not prorogued
« Reply #77 on: 25 September 2019, 22:33:06 »

For those who haven't seen it here's the Attorney General Sir Geoffrey Cox's performance at the dispatch box earlier today!  :y
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Re: Parliament is not prorogued
« Reply #78 on: 26 September 2019, 00:34:12 »

For those who haven't seen it here's the Attorney General Sir Geoffrey Cox's performance at the dispatch box earlier today!  :y

Seems he's rather better at empty rhetoric than he is at advising the government on points of law, maybe he and Bojo could arrange some sort of job-share arrangement... Does Boris have any legal training I wonder?  ;D
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Re: Parliament is not prorogued
« Reply #79 on: 26 September 2019, 09:49:00 »

For those who haven't seen it here's the Attorney General Sir Geoffrey Cox's performance at the dispatch box earlier today!  :y

Seems he's rather better at empty rhetoric than he is at advising the government on points of law, maybe he and Bojo could arrange some sort of job-share arrangement... Does Boris have any legal training I wonder?  ;D

I suspect that technically his points of law were spot on regarding the prorogation, it was the points of politics that were suspect, and that is what the Supreme Court gave their verdict on.   ::)

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Re: Parliament is not prorogued
« Reply #80 on: 26 September 2019, 13:31:24 »

Boris has begged them to propose a no confidence motion in his Govt. today, and they refuse to do it. We are through the looking glass folks.
 He said the only thing Labour MP,s fear more than losing an election under Corbyn, is winning one. Which is probably true.
Personally, I don't believe Corbyn wants to be PM. He is a protester, a malcontent, an agitator. He wouldn't know where to begin if he was handed the reins of power, and I suspect he knows it.


Boris' entire 'strategy' was based on making the opposition force him to call a General Election. But they are not playing that game, and he had no other options with any chance of succeeding. His bungling posh-boy persona only works here(and we should be embarrased by that) so he was never going to get anywhere with the EU either.


Your description of Corbyn is equally applicable to Johnson, although you would need to add 'gambler' to the list.
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Re: Parliament is not prorogued
« Reply #81 on: 26 September 2019, 13:46:11 »

"Boris and Cox wiped the floor with the lot of them yesterday, so today they have all gone into holier than though/ Mother Theresa mode, and are trying to get the Tories to promise they wont ever be beastly or nasty ever again.
Boris,s remark about Jo Cox was a tad clumsy though. Although it didn't warrant this outpouring, from the hypocrites on the other benches.
They seem to have forgotten about the Labour MP,s and members who have been threatened and intimidated until they had no choice but to leave the party they loved. Not to mention Corbyns support of mass murderers everywhere, as long as they are left wing mass murderers."


I was about to reply to this post by Albs on the Climate Change mk2 thread but was too slow ...so have added it here .

I just watched the performances of the humble " honourable friends " citing fear for their lives and documenting the abuse that they recieve daily and calling for the PM to come to the despatch box get on his knees and beg for the forgiveness of the House for his , and only his  ::) shameful conduct last evening.
I smiled at the ability of these sanctimonious hypocrits to deftly transform from the baying wolves suffering from chronic rosacea that I witnessed last evening.
Milliband and Swinson were cringeworthy .

They really are a sad ,whinging self righteous lot .


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Re: Parliament is not prorogued
« Reply #82 on: 26 September 2019, 13:52:24 »

And paid handsomely for it sadly >:(
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Re: Parliament is not prorogued
« Reply #83 on: 26 September 2019, 13:56:12 »

His bungling posh-boy persona only works here(and we should be embarrased by that) so he was never going to get anywhere with the EU either.


Doesn't matter who we send to Brussels.  If they try to get a good deal for the UK or even a mutually advantageous deal, they won't get anywhere.  ::)

Corbyn would probably get on OK though, because his deal would make Theresa May's deal look like a rock hard exit!  ::)  :)
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Re: Parliament is not prorogued
« Reply #84 on: 26 September 2019, 14:31:08 »

Boris has begged them to propose a no confidence motion in his Govt. today, and they refuse to do it. We are through the looking glass folks.
 He said the only thing Labour MP,s fear more than losing an election under Corbyn, is winning one. Which is probably true.
Personally, I don't believe Corbyn wants to be PM. He is a protester, a malcontent, an agitator. He wouldn't know where to begin if he was handed the reins of power, and I suspect he knows it.


Boris' entire 'strategy' was based on making the opposition force him to call a General Election. But they are not playing that game, and he had no other options with any chance of succeeding. His bungling posh-boy persona only works here(and we should be embarrased by that) so he was never going to get anywhere with the EU either.


Your description of Corbyn is equally applicable to Johnson, although you would need to add 'gambler' to the list.
They'll have to play that game after Oct 31st. Then November will be taken up with a GE, December with a queen's speech, cabinet shuffle, etc. and, if the electorate have any sense, we'll leave on January 31st anyway.
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Re: Parliament is not prorogued
« Reply #85 on: 26 September 2019, 14:46:08 »

So, they spent the morning being ever so civil and meek until it came to a vote to recess for 3 days to allow the Tories to have their conference. The civility disappeared instantly and they voted against it. Unbelievable.
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Re: Parliament is not prorogued
« Reply #86 on: 26 September 2019, 15:04:32 »

So, they spent the morning being ever so civil and meek until it came to a vote to recess for 3 days to allow the Tories to have their conference. The civility disappeared instantly and they voted against it. Unbelievable.

So after tactic 1 to run the clock down was ruled illegal, they asked for a Vote to run the clock down....

I can't imagine why it was voted down.  ;D
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Re: Parliament is not prorogued
« Reply #87 on: 26 September 2019, 15:20:07 »

So, they spent the morning being ever so civil and meek until it came to a vote to recess for 3 days to allow the Tories to have their conference. The civility disappeared instantly and they voted against it. Unbelievable.
What would happen if the Tories just went and had their conference? The others would have the house to themselves, surely they'd be happy with that?
Come on, Boris, give them the finger.....again.

Bercow will cry, though, the little shit will have no one to bully.
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Re: Parliament is not prorogued
« Reply #88 on: 26 September 2019, 15:29:48 »

So, they spent the morning being ever so civil and meek until it came to a vote to recess for 3 days to allow the Tories to have their conference. The civility disappeared instantly and they voted against it. Unbelievable.

The irony of course is that had Boris not prorogued, they'd have all happily voted to recess for their conferences.  ::)

We didn't hear many complaints about having to have their summer holidays!  :D
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Re: Parliament is not prorogued
« Reply #89 on: 26 September 2019, 15:47:20 »

So, they spent the morning being ever so civil and meek until it came to a vote to recess for 3 days to allow the Tories to have their conference. The civility disappeared instantly and they voted against it. Unbelievable.
What would happen if the Tories just went and had their conference? The others would have the house to themselves, surely they'd be happy with that?
Come on, Boris, give them the finger.....again.

Bercow will cry, though, the little shit will have no one to bully.
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