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Title: Opel shop couldn't change language on GID display
Post by: Jan Suhr on 29 September 2017, 10:42:57
My new Omega that I have imported from Germany has the GID display and the CART2007 radio and the display is of course in German.

I would like to change that to Swedish. I booked an appointment today for them to use the TECH2 to reprogram it to Swedish. They were able to do that but as soon as they started the car it went back to German.

I'm going to replace the CART2007 with some more modern stuff so I think that the reprogramming has to be done before I remove it.

What did the mechanic do wrong? They said it needed a few hours of setting different units in the car to the correct country code, is that right?



Thanks


Jan
Title: Re: Opel shop couldn't change language on GID display
Post by: tunnie on 29 September 2017, 11:29:27
Can you not go:

BC > Einstellungen > Systemeinstungen > Bedienfuhrung > Language
Title: Re: Opel shop couldn't change language on GID display
Post by: Jan Suhr on 29 September 2017, 11:56:06
Can you not go:

BC > Einstellungen > Systemeinstungen > Bedienfuhrung > Language

I have tried to find that menu but I can't see any such choice. I have also read that changing that way will default back to German if you disconnect the battery. Since I'm going to remove the original stereo I think I need to change it with the TECH2

How do I get to the BC menu?


Thanks
Title: Re: Opel shop couldn't change language on GID display
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 September 2017, 11:57:21
Press and hold the stalk iirc... Audio manual should cover it :y
Title: Re: Opel shop couldn't change language on GID display
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 29 September 2017, 12:19:13
Can you not go:

BC > Einstellungen > Systemeinstungen > Bedienfuhrung > Language

Yes, mine has reverted to German every so often, but this menu has resolved the issue every time.  ;)

I cannot remember though if Swedish is listed. :-\
Title: Re: Opel shop couldn't change language on GID display
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 September 2017, 12:24:33
Suomi is iirc, so no reason why not ;)
Title: Re: Opel shop couldn't change language on GID display
Post by: Jan Suhr on 29 September 2017, 12:45:23
What do you mean by stalk? My native language is Swedish and I know what a stalk is but not on an Omega  :-[
Title: Re: Opel shop couldn't change language on GID display
Post by: tunnie on 29 September 2017, 12:57:10
One of these:

(https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA2M1gxNjAw/z/JFoAAOSw8w1X37YK/$_58.JPG)

Could not find a photo of wiper stalk with buttons, here in UK one that controls indicator/lights, also controls cruise.

The wiper stalk is only wiper with NCDC, but other H/U's say 2005 unit, it also controls the MID, try pressing and holding the long lower button?
Title: Re: Opel shop couldn't change language on GID display
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 September 2017, 13:03:09
Have a read of the Audio handbook and report back :y
Title: Re: Opel shop couldn't change language on GID display
Post by: zirk on 29 September 2017, 13:12:15
Can you not go:

BC > Einstellungen > Systemeinstungen > Bedienfuhrung > Language
Thats for the Siemens NC HU range, no good to OP as he has a Phillips 2007.
Title: Re: Opel shop couldn't change language on GID display
Post by: tunnie on 29 September 2017, 13:18:44
Ah  :y
Title: Re: Opel shop couldn't change language on GID display
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 September 2017, 13:52:45
First insert a suitable Swedish SIM card, T Mobile PAYG should suffice.

Then select the following function in order using the Selector knob (not the On/Off/volume)

Menu
Settings
Configuration
Language
Automatic

Needs to have a SIM in to change language :y

English manual, just ignore all the CD Changer stuff... http://images.omegaowners.com/documents/audio/ccrt2008_2002.pdf

Also bear in mind that if you swap the radio, you also need to swap the display as the current one is only suitable for CART/CCRT models :y
Title: Re: Opel shop couldn't change language on GID display
Post by: Jan Suhr on 29 September 2017, 13:59:29
Thanks for the info, well it isn't easy, is it?

I got this on the display when pressing both buttons on the wiper stalk.

(http://www.protouring.se/files/new_omega/opel_panel.jpg)

Should I go for the normal MID panel, I think that one is easiest to find here in Sweden, my other Omega has one like that.
Title: Re: Opel shop couldn't change language on GID display
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 September 2017, 14:02:59
A link paints a thousand words...

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90480.0 ::)

Basically you need a MID with a grey plug :y
Title: Re: Opel shop couldn't change language on GID display
Post by: zirk on 29 September 2017, 14:10:53
I believe if you want that Display to defaut in another language it needs a chat with a Tech 2, which is what your Garage tried to do, or did they use Op Com software instead?
Title: Re: Opel shop couldn't change language on GID display
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 September 2017, 14:20:10
I believe if you want that Display to defaut in another language it needs a chat with a Tech 2, which is what your Garage tried to do, or did they use Op Com software instead?
CA/CCRT uses the SIM to alter display language according to the Audio manual :-\
Title: Re: Opel shop couldn't change language on GID display
Post by: Jan Suhr on 29 September 2017, 14:22:38
I believe if you want that Display to defaut in another language it needs a chat with a Tech 2, which is what your Garage tried to do, or did they use Op Com software instead?


I think they used a TECH2, at least that is what they said. I had to wait out in the customer lounge.

Title: Re: Opel shop couldn't change language on GID display
Post by: Jan Suhr on 29 September 2017, 16:05:50
Yes I tried to access it from the phone mode but it asked for a SIM-card directly.

I'll try to find another panel since I'll change the radio.

BTW, do you know if the language is stored in the panel, since I will get it from another Swedish car it will have been set to that.

Thanks

Title: Re: Opel shop couldn't change language on GID display
Post by: Jan Suhr on 29 September 2017, 16:20:07
Looking around I found that GM #24400698 seems to be the correct display for the to change to.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VAUXHALL-OPEL-OMEGA-2-5-PIXEL-DASH-DISPLAY-GM-24400698-/381926800936

Will that work?


Thanks
Title: Re: Opel shop couldn't change language on GID display
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 September 2017, 18:26:01
Looking around I found that GM #24400698 seems to be the correct display for the to change to.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VAUXHALL-OPEL-OMEGA-2-5-PIXEL-DASH-DISPLAY-GM-24400698-/381926800936

Will that work?


Thanks
Display should be the correct one ;)

Re the CART language... You did read the link I posted ::)

Clearly states, and I quoted from it, that you need to have a Sim card installed in order to adjust the language settings ???
Title: Re: Opel shop couldn't change language on GID display
Post by: Jan Suhr on 29 September 2017, 18:28:13
Yes Thanks, I read it and since I will remove the unit that method will not work. I have to change the panel.


Jan
Title: Re: Opel shop couldn't change language on GID display
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 September 2017, 18:42:28
Yes Thanks, I read it and since I will remove the unit that method will not work. I have to change the panel.


Jan
New screen will need Tech2 to change language...

Should be free as they should have known they couldn't change current one with Tech2 ::)
Title: Re: Opel shop couldn't change language on GID display
Post by: TheBoy on 29 September 2017, 19:08:43
MID needs to come from identical spec car, else will need tech2 to adjust
Title: Re: Opel shop couldn't change language on GID display
Post by: Jan Suhr on 29 September 2017, 20:14:25
Yes Thanks, I read it and since I will remove the unit that method will not work. I have to change the panel.


Jan
New screen will need Tech2 to change language...

Should be free as they should have known they couldn't change current one with Tech2 ::)

I didn't have to pay anything since they couldn't do what I asked for.
Title: Re: Opel shop couldn't change language on GID display
Post by: Jan Suhr on 29 September 2017, 20:17:48
MID needs to come from identical spec car, else will need tech2 to adjust

I have found a few of them but all are from 2.2L cars, years are 00 or 01
Title: Re: Opel shop couldn't change language on GID display
Post by: Jan Suhr on 01 October 2017, 13:02:32
My GID display worked with my new head unit, it shows all the messages as the MID does.

So I don't have to change it  :)

Maybe they can change the language on it now when the CART 2007 isn't there anymore.
Title: Re: Opel shop couldn't change language on GID display
Post by: TheBoy on 01 October 2017, 13:06:25
My GID display worked with my new head unit, it shows all the messages as the MID does.

So I don't have to change it  :)

Maybe they can change the language on it now when the CART 2007 isn't there anymore.
Ah, you aren't using a GID, but a CART display.  That works just like a MID, so you can keep it in place :y
Title: Re: Opel shop couldn't change language on GID display
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 01 October 2017, 15:12:15
My GID display worked with my new head unit, it shows all the messages as the MID does.

So I don't have to change it  :)

Maybe they can change the language on it now when the CART 2007 isn't there anymore.
Once again, the instructions suggest that the Sim card dictates the display language ::)
Title: Re: Opel shop couldn't change language on GID display
Post by: Jan Suhr on 01 October 2017, 15:51:18
My GID display worked with my new head unit, it shows all the messages as the MID does.

So I don't have to change it  :)

Maybe they can change the language on it now when the CART 2007 isn't there anymore.
Once again, the instructions suggest that the Sim card dictates the display language ::)

OK I get it  :-[
Title: Re: Opel shop couldn't change language on GID display
Post by: berserkerboy on 02 October 2017, 09:48:52
Can you not go:

BC > Einstellungen > Systemeinstungen > Bedienfuhrung > Language

Thanks for this. Mines been in German for the last 2 years. :D
Title: Re: Opel shop couldn't change language on GID display
Post by: zirk on 02 October 2017, 12:42:52
Can you not go:

BC > Einstellungen > Systemeinstungen > Bedienfuhrung > Language

Thanks for this. Mines been in German for the last 2 years. :D
Well, if your getting ready for Brexit, youve still got another 2 years to go yet.  ;)