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Title: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 08 January 2018, 22:08:55
Just doing my Asda shop online and just fancied a change, so went looking for meatloaf and all that came up was dog food, so decided to look for nut roast, and the only option that came up was the Quorn crap.

Nothing can ever replace Mums cooking or all the home grown veggies that we had to hand, I gave up on the takeaways a few years ago with just the occasional one every 2 weeks or so, and now with all the processed and frozen food etc I am just getting fed up with it all.


But it is so sad that the basic stuff like the nut roast and meatloaf just is not available any more. :-\










and KFC dont deliver to our area  ::)
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Bigron on 08 January 2018, 22:22:28
Does anybody do corned beef fritters any more?

Ron.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: zirk on 08 January 2018, 22:55:59
Spam Fritters at my local Chippy.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Rods2 on 09 January 2018, 00:14:10
Home cook your own food. If you are short of time buy some plastic takeaway dishes and bulk cook and store and freeze several meals in these or make a big pot in a slow cooker, just make sure you reheat it up to full temperature everyday so it is above 72degC as that kills any yeast or bugs that would make it go off. :y :y :y

Savings from home cooking compared with processed foods then can then be spent on useful cooking utensils and gadgets that save time and effort when cooking. :y :y :y
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: 78bex on 09 January 2018, 00:24:20
Just doing my Asda shop online and just fancied a change, so went looking for meatloaf and all that came up was dog food, so decided to look for nut roast, and the only option that came up was the Quorn crap.

Nothing can ever replace Mums cooking or all the home grown veggies that we had to hand, I gave up on the takeaways a few years ago with just the occasional one every 2 weeks or so, and now with all the processed and frozen food etc I am just getting fed up with it all.


But it is so sad that the basic stuff like the nut roast and meatloaf just is not available any more. :-\

Very true, just simple & nourishing fair during the week & always a roast on Sunday  :y

I tend to just scoff sarnies for lunchtimes, but gettin a tad fed up with that to be honest :(
You try a BLT without the B, think I`ll slice up me banana & add that to the mix
One thing  we`ve  cut out is cured bacon, the stuff that contains nitrates / nitrites; after the WHO declared that a link might exist with colorectal cancer in 2015  :o
To be honest I can`t tell the difference with uncured  ??? & we`ve even cut down on this now too.
To be honest swmbo  :-* has cut our consumption of processed meats dramatically.
Wednesday night is girls night out & I can see a fry up on the menu :y


Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 January 2018, 00:56:50
I used to hate liver when I was a kid and as it's cheap we used to get it quite often.  :(

Funny thing is I enjoy a plate of liver, onions, bacon, cabbage and gravy these days!  :y
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: 78bex on 09 January 2018, 01:04:36
I used to hate liver when I was a kid and as it's cheap we used to get it quite often.  :(

Funny thing is I enjoy a plate of liver, onions, bacon, cabbage and gravy these days!  :y

That`s proper grub that is, I`m workin a late shift & the polish girls are tryin to work out what liver is  ;D ;D ;D my mate is making lamby noises & pointin at his guts  ::)
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 January 2018, 01:13:40
I'm sure those Polish girls would love to taste a bit of English offal!  :-*  ;D
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: BazaJT on 09 January 2018, 07:52:23
I suppose in this day and age the foods I grew up eating[still do!]would be classed as unhealthy stodge,but it was always made up of fresh ingredients.You could tell by what was for tea[dinner to the posh types who do lunch]what day of the week it was as it was the same thing every week e.g. every Monday it was hash made up of Sundays left overs plus bread to mop up the gravy.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Bigron on 09 January 2018, 08:27:19
I thought that I was the only one common enough to mop up the gravy with my bread!
Well, back then gravy was too good to waste, especially if it was from a steamed steak and kidney pud.  :y :y :y

Ron.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Bigron on 09 January 2018, 08:28:24
Is gravy-making a lost art nowadays? Any "how-to" suggestions welcome.....

Ron.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Mister Rog on 09 January 2018, 09:23:31
Is gravy-making a lost art nowadays? Any "how-to" suggestions welcome.....

Ron.

I'm not allowed to make the gravy, SWMBO cringes at the fat and stuff particularly if it's roast beef and I've used the roasting pan, so it's instant granules  :(



Childhood food ?  . . . . . Oh yes, I do so miss decent pheasant  ::)

Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: aaronjb on 09 January 2018, 09:27:09
Is gravy-making a lost art nowadays? Any "how-to" suggestions welcome.....

Ron.

Add bisto to hot water? ;D

Also, to Skrunts - nut roast and meatloaf? I thought at least one of those was a solely American preserve..
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: redelitev6 on 09 January 2018, 12:32:54
Does anybody do corned beef fritters any more?

Ron.
 YES ! wifey makes some nice fritters  :)
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 09 January 2018, 13:04:00
Is gravy-making a lost art nowadays? Any "how-to" suggestions welcome.....

Ron.

In the old days, when roast beef used to produce the fats suitable for making beautiful dripping, all you did was mix gravy powder with the liquid left after taking out the joint in the roasting dish, over heat, gently bringing to the boil, then serve.

Even in these days of sterile beef, you can still mix gravy granules with the cooking fats left in the roasting dish in the same way as before, and stir over heat until bubbling to make a good, but rarely excellent, gravy. ;)
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Varche on 09 January 2018, 13:13:53
Gravy powder or gravy browning........ you can still get it. I think it was Burdalls. A thick brown liquid made from melted down cows.

I am with my family in North Yorkshire at moment. Shocking how little cooking the 20-30s age group do.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Nick W on 09 January 2018, 13:16:00
Both my grandmothers made the gravy in the same way: add some flour to the juices from the meat, and mix to a smooth paste. Dilute with the water left over from the greens, and pour into a gravy boat.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Mister Rog on 09 January 2018, 13:23:08
Both my grandmothers made the gravy in the same way: add some flour to the juices from the meat, and mix to a smooth paste. Dilute with the water left over from the greens, and pour into a gravy boat.

Yep, that sounds about right  :y Possible a tiny dash of gravy browning just for colour.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Bigron on 09 January 2018, 13:39:23
Yes gents (and Lizzie), I vaguely remember doing something similar back when you did get juices from the meat, and flavourful fat, but now we are so "healthy", those days are gone..... :(

Ron.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Rods2 on 09 January 2018, 16:17:41
Gravy can be made from the meat juices and thickened with flour or as I prefer cornflour. Mix a couple of heaped teaspoons of flour with water in a cup to make a liquid and stir it as you pour it in to stop it going lumpy. If it needs a bit stronger flavour I then add browning or some gravy granules :y

Making sauces which are quick and easy to do seems to be a lost art for the under 40's where sauces can only come out of a jar. :(

How many people have and use a stockpot these days. I use mine regularly especially after a chicken roast with the stock being used to make lunchtime soups. I remove the fat by letting the stock cool down and skimming it off. :y

If you like eating good food, which I do, it has to be homemade or cooked by proper chefs at a restaurant. :y
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 09 January 2018, 16:23:31
When I was in the Ambulance Service in London (1979-1990) if we got a job to St. Thomas's Hospital staff on station would get us to pick up bread & dripping which they sold in the canteen! Didn't like it myself but I bet it's not on the menu now.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Bigron on 09 January 2018, 17:07:56
AAAH, dripping! We always had dripping from the Sunday roast when I was very young; brown sludge and jelly at the bottom of the bowl to add flavour to the fat when spresd on bread. It simply cannot be replicated nowadays - what has happened to the world?

Ron.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: ronnyd on 09 January 2018, 17:26:09
I think you have to be over 30 to savour the delights of liver Tig. Pigs of course. :y Lambs is a bit dry (or SWMBO ain,t cooking it right) ::)
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 09 January 2018, 17:26:31
AAAH, dripping! We always had dripping from the Sunday roast when I was very young; brown sludge and jelly at the bottom of the bowl to add flavour to the fat when spresd on bread. It simply cannot be replicated nowadays - what has happened to the world?

Ron.

Meat safety apparently Ron! :'( :'(
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 09 January 2018, 17:29:57
Gravy can be made from the meat juices and thickened with flour or as I prefer cornflour. Mix a couple of heaped teaspoons of flour with water in a cup to make a liquid and stir it as you pour it in to stop it going lumpy. If it needs a bit stronger flavour I then add browning or some gravy granules :y


Yes. my Great Aunt always made her gravy with cornflower and it was the best gravy I ever tasted.  I used to tell my mum that, and she was never happy about it as my Great Aunt and her never got on due to "class" differences! ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 January 2018, 17:32:00
Uncooked cake mix. :y :y
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: STEMO on 09 January 2018, 17:49:20
I think you’ll find that food tastes just as good today as it always did.....to kids. If you’ve smoked, or drunk alcohol, or binged on hot curries, then your taste buds are f**ked. Add to that the fact that they deteriorate with age.......
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Bigron on 09 January 2018, 17:57:40
Uncooked cake mix. :y :y

Mum making a cake, stirring the mix and then pouring it into cake tins from the bowl.
Child: "Mummy, can I lick the bowl?"
Mum. "No, you pull the chain like everyone else"!

Ron.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: redelitev6 on 09 January 2018, 18:31:04
 :o I remember my dad having fried bread and salt sandwiches , talk about unhealthy !
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: BazaJT on 09 January 2018, 19:14:15
Yes mum used to use cornflower and Bisto powder for the gravy done in the meat dish after [iirc] she'd poured off the dripping[or as dad would have it the sweat off the meat]Dripping sandwiches or dripping on toast mmmmm,yummy :y
One type of sandwich I used to love-and still have from time to time-[some friends used to think it was "dirty"]were cheese and jam.They had to be made with white cheese[not red] and strawberry jam :-*
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 09 January 2018, 21:14:23
Is gravy-making a lost art nowadays? Any "how-to" suggestions welcome.....

Ron.

Add bisto to hot water? ;D  then add an oxo to that, I was impressed with the result. :y :y

Also, to Skrunts - nut roast and meatloaf? I thought at least one of those was a solely American preserve..
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Varche on 09 January 2018, 22:24:07
Anybody have runner beans presrved in salt? Washed a thousand times prior to eating and still just tasted of salt......
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Mister Rog on 09 January 2018, 22:34:20

Am I wrong or is life expectancy somewhat (a lot) higher than it was say 40/50 years ago ? Actually even 20 years ago  ???
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Rods2 on 09 January 2018, 23:38:47

Am I wrong or is life expectancy somewhat (a lot) higher than it was say 40/50 years ago ? Actually even 20 years ago  ???

Correct for a large number of reasons. After WWI and WWII about 90% of men smoked and it was only when the link between poor health and smoking was established in the 1960's that this started to decline. High fat diets cause circulation and blood clotting problems especially if a smoker was why men in their late 30's onwards started to thin out significantly from heart attacks. Improved lifestyles, public health, safety and medical advances means that far fewer people die from birth onwards before their time. These days if you live to 60, don't smoke, exercise a bit, eat a sensible diet and drink sensible amounts and aren't obese then you have a good chance of reaching 84-86 which is the peak age for dying. :y
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Varche on 09 January 2018, 23:41:29
Peak age for dying............

Lovely. Just been to hospital today visiting . Lots of peak agers there. ;D
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: TD on 10 January 2018, 05:57:57
Anybody have runner beans presrved in salt? Washed a thousand times prior to eating and still just tasted of salt......

Never thought of doing that.
If I have too many runner beans keeping them in a plastic bag in the fridge stops them going soft for a few days/week.
If I want to keep them for longer, I prepare them and then put them in portions, then shove in the freezer. Straight out of the freezer into boiling water then  :y
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Mister Rog on 10 January 2018, 09:24:15

Am I wrong or is life expectancy somewhat (a lot) higher than it was say 40/50 years ago ? Actually even 20 years ago  ???

Correct for a large number of reasons. After WWI and WWII about 90% of men smoked and it was only when the link between poor health and smoking was established in the 1960's that this started to decline. High fat diets cause circulation and blood clotting problems especially if a smoker was why men in their late 30's onwards started to thin out significantly from heart attacks. Improved lifestyles, public health, safety and medical advances means that far fewer people die from birth onwards before their time. These days if you live to 60, don't smoke, exercise a bit, eat a sensible diet and drink sensible amounts and aren't obese then you have a good chance of reaching 84-86 which is the peak age for dying. :y

Great. I look forward to it then  ;D



Was it Woody Allen who said something like " I'm not afraid of dying, I just don't want to be there when it happens" ?

Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 10 January 2018, 10:31:05

Am I wrong or is life expectancy somewhat (a lot) higher than it was say 40/50 years ago ? Actually even 20 years ago  ???

Correct for a large number of reasons. After WWI and WWII about 90% of men smoked and it was only when the link between poor health and smoking was established in the 1960's that this started to decline. High fat diets cause circulation and blood clotting problems especially if a smoker was why men in their late 30's onwards started to thin out significantly from heart attacks. Improved lifestyles, public health, safety and medical advances means that far fewer people die from birth onwards before their time. These days if you live to 60, don't smoke, exercise a bit, eat a sensible diet and drink sensible amounts and aren't obese then you have a good chance of reaching 84-86 which is the peak age for dying. :y

Yep, every time I study this area of history I am reminded that in around 1800, the average life expectancy of men was 40, women 42.  In 1700 it was only around 35. In those times just getting through infancy was hard enough, with 1 in 5 children, if they and the mother survived childbirth, not living to their 5th birthday in 1800. Up to 12% of children would see both parents die by the time the children were 25.

Hard times, and for more information on how things have improved, look at these figures:

 https://visual.ons.gov.uk/how-has-life-expectancy-changed-over-time/

 ;)
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Varche on 10 January 2018, 10:41:58
Anybody have runner beans presrved in salt? Washed a thousand times prior to eating and still just tasted of salt......

Never thought of doing that.
If I have too many runner beans keeping them in a plastic bag in the fridge stops them going soft for a few days/week.
If I want to keep them for longer, I prepare them and then put them in portions, then shove in the freezer. Straight out of the freezer into boiling water then  :y

Well pre fridges andfreezers salting was a method of preserving. When my great aunt died 1979 she had about 75 eggs preserved in eisenglass. She had lived through shortages of two world wars and was never going to go short again.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 10 January 2018, 10:50:33
Anybody have runner beans presrved in salt? Washed a thousand times prior to eating and still just tasted of salt......

Never thought of doing that.
If I have too many runner beans keeping them in a plastic bag in the fridge stops them going soft for a few days/week.
If I want to keep them for longer, I prepare them and then put them in portions, then shove in the freezer. Straight out of the freezer into boiling water then  :y

Well pre fridges andfreezers salting was a method of preserving. When my great aunt died 1979 she had about 75 eggs preserved in eisenglass. She had lived through shortages of two world wars and was never going to go short again.

My great aunt (died 1990 aged 95) used to totally rely on her pantry, that was always cold even in the summer. She, like yours Varche, had know many hard times during the periods of the two world wars. "Waste not want not" was her favourite expression, that has been ingrained in me for the whole of my life. One other difference in her day was that shopping was done at the most on a weekly basis, if not every other day. Life before fridges meant the huge monthly shopping expeditions of today to mega supermarkets were just not an option. ;)
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Mr Gav on 10 January 2018, 10:54:46
Yes mum used to use cornflower and Bisto powder for the gravy done in the meat dish after [iirc] she'd poured off the dripping[or as dad would have it the sweat off the meat]Dripping sandwiches or dripping on toast mmmmm,yummy :y
One type of sandwich I used to love-and still have from time to time-[some friends used to think it was "dirty"]were cheese and jam.They had to be made with white cheese[not red] and strawberry jam :-*

I love cheese and jam sandwiches, I always get a funny look if I`m having them at work, people just don`t understand how nice they are  :y
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Bigron on 10 January 2018, 10:55:45
Lizzie, I am sure that you are in favour of equality between genders, so in order to achieve this goal and because, as you have shown, women have greater life expectancy than men, I suggest that a slow poison be introduced into the female diet to even out this anomaly.
The governm,ent department for Equality (whatevewr it is currently called) could adopt this as a policy and implement it immediately - we have waited too long already!  ;D

Ron.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 10 January 2018, 10:55:59
Yes mum used to use cornflower and Bisto powder for the gravy done in the meat dish after [iirc] she'd poured off the dripping[or as dad would have it the sweat off the meat]Dripping sandwiches or dripping on toast mmmmm,yummy :y
One type of sandwich I used to love-and still have from time to time-[some friends used to think it was "dirty"]were cheese and jam.They had to be made with white cheese[not red] and strawberry jam :-*

I love cheese and jam sandwiches, I always get a funny look if I`m having them at work, people just don`t understand how nice they are  :y

Have you tried peanut butter and jam in sandwiches?  Lovely!! :-* :-* :-* :D
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 10 January 2018, 11:03:01
Lizzie, I am sure that you are in favour of equality between genders, so in order to achieve this goal and because, as you have shown, women have greater life expectancy than men, I suggest that a slow poison be introduced into the female diet to even out this anomaly.
The governm,ent department for Equality (whatevewr it is currently called) could adopt this as a policy and implement it immediately - we have waited too long already!  ;D

Ron.


Oh Ron, if we did as you suggest the human race would be ignoring the fact of life that the stronger survive.  So we have got to come up with a National Socialist approach that the weaker men are "vacated" from life in a gradual process, with us women being artificially inseminated. Then many advantages would become apparent, such as no more war and a dramatic fall in crime!

(Only joking with all that Ron, but that is what could happen if another manic comes along believing in a super race in another time warp!!) :o :o :o

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Bigron on 10 January 2018, 11:09:34
So was I (joking, I mean), but it's fun to tease! To truly be equaj, women would need to have another four ounces of brain to come near to the capability of men.
Women don't go to war? Joan of Arc, Boudicca, the Amazons?.....

Ron.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Mister Rog on 10 January 2018, 11:38:27
So was I (joking, I mean), but it's fun to tease! To truly be equaj, women would need to have another four ounces of brain to come near to the capability of men.
Women don't go to war? Joan of Arc, Boudicca, the Amazons?.....

Ron.

Nah, the extra weight isn't in our skulls, it's below the belt  ::)

Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Bigron on 10 January 2018, 13:19:11
Oh of course - our other brains!  :y

Ron.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 10 January 2018, 13:19:19
So was I (joking, I mean), but it's fun to tease! To truly be equaj, women would need to have another four ounces of brain to come near to the capability of men.
Women don't go to war? Joan of Arc, Boudicca, the Amazons?.....

Ron.

Only to protect themselves and their tribe or country; Boudica and the Iceni against the war keen Romans who had betrayed the trust and friendship with the Celtic tribe and humiliated Boudica and her daughters; Joan of Arc against the invading and hostile English, and seen by many as being manlike anyway, one reason why she was burnt at the stake.

As for The Amazons, they only exist in Greek mythology, and even then it is believed by scholars that if they existed at all they were really men who dressed in a way that made strangers think they were women.  All myth anyway. ;)
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: STEMO on 10 January 2018, 13:24:31
Boadicea when I was at school. Then again, there were only five continents when I was at school.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Mister Rog on 10 January 2018, 13:51:04
So was I (joking, I mean), but it's fun to tease! To truly be equaj, women would need to have another four ounces of brain to come near to the capability of men.
Women don't go to war? Joan of Arc, Boudicca, the Amazons?.....

Ron.


As for The Amazons, they only exist in Greek mythology, and even then it is believed by scholars that if they existed at all they were really men who dressed in a way that made strangers think they were women.  All myth anyway. ;)

DAMN ! There goes one of my lifelong fantasies   ::)

Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: STEMO on 10 January 2018, 13:54:05
So was I (joking, I mean), but it's fun to tease! To truly be equaj, women would need to have another four ounces of brain to come near to the capability of men.
Women don't go to war? Joan of Arc, Boudicca, the Amazons?.....

Ron.


As for The Amazons, they only exist in Greek mythology, and even then it is believed by scholars that if they existed at all they were really men who dressed in a way that made strangers think they were women.  All myth anyway. ;)

DAMN ! There goes one of my lifelong fantasies   ::)
And one of mine comes true  :-*
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Bigron on 10 January 2018, 14:21:34
My teacher-mode is in gear now - Boudicca is the correct spelling and on;ly became Boadicea as a result of mistranscription from the original document - the second "c" was erroneously written as an "e2".

Ron.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: STEMO on 10 January 2018, 14:48:07
My teacher-mode is in gear now - Boudicca is the correct spelling and on;ly became Boadicea as a result of mistranscription from the original document - the second "c" was erroneously written as an "e2".

Ron.
Please sir...there’s no semi colon in the middle of only, Sir.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Bigron on 10 January 2018, 14:50:30
I never said I was a good typist, did I? There's a;sp another typo in that, but I will forgive myself.
Fingers too big for typing, but ok for..... 8) ;D

Ron.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 10 January 2018, 15:03:01
So was I (joking, I mean), but it's fun to tease! To truly be equaj, women would need to have another four ounces of brain to come near to the capability of men.
Women don't go to war? Joan of Arc, Boudicca, the Amazons?.....

Ron.


As for The Amazons, they only exist in Greek mythology, and even then it is believed by scholars that if they existed at all they were really men who dressed in a way that made strangers think they were women.  All myth anyway. ;)

DAMN ! There goes one of my lifelong fantasies   ::)
And one of mine comes true :-*

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  Glad to please STEMO! :y :y
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 10 January 2018, 15:16:58
My teacher-mode is in gear now - Boudicca is the correct spelling and on;ly became Boadicea as a result of mistranscription from the original document - the second "c" was erroneously written as an "e2".

Ron.


Sorry Ron, but all the academic documents and books I have ever seen spell the correct pronunciation of "Boudica" without the second "c" ;)
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Bigron on 10 January 2018, 18:10:36
Then I am sorry, Lizzie, but your sources have picked up on the later, false, transcripts.


Ron.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: aaronjb on 10 January 2018, 18:30:13
I'm going with Ron on this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boudica#Name

Unless, of course, Ron wrote the Wikipedia page ;D
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: BazaJT on 10 January 2018, 18:39:12
I find it quite amazing[in a good way]how threads on this forum can swap-like this one has-from food in childhood to the spelling of names of ancient Britons,just like a face to face conversation can veer away from it's original topic to something totally unrelated.Anyway back on topic,sorry Lizzie but whilst I do like peanuts I can't for some reason bring myself to like peanut butter.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 10 January 2018, 19:00:56
I'm going with Ron on this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boudica#Name

Unless, of course, Ron wrote the Wikipedia page ;D

Wikipedia??!!!!  I would have been thrown out of university if I have quoted that as a source! :o :o :o

If you have access to Jstore, then you will find all the academic papers that have been published that use "Boudica" in that form.  So I must obey that source!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Bigron on 10 January 2018, 19:11:15
Boudicca is used in Academe; Boadicea is the "East End" version!
And no, I do not rely on Wiki for reference/sourse material.
Baza, you are right about the way conversations on here can become quite organic!
Just to drift off a little further, I've just borrowed a DVD of Disney's Fantasia from the library - just as wonderful as the first time I saw it in a News rheatre in London.
Apart from the great music, the cartooning is second to none; far better than today's CGI imagery. Originally created in the 1930s? Wow!  :y 8)

Ron.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 10 January 2018, 19:36:49
Boudicca is used in Academe; Boadicea is the "East End" version!
And no, I do not rely on Wiki for reference/sourse material.
Baza, you are right about the way conversations on here can become quite organic!

Just to drift off a little further, I've just borrowed a DVD of Disney's Fantasia from the library - just as wonderful as the first time I saw it in a News rheatre in London.
Apart from the great music, the cartooning is second to none; far better than today's CGI imagery. Originally created in the 1930s? Wow!  :y 8)

Ron.

Don't worry Ron I have been trying to wind you up!  :P :P

Boudica IS the modern version, yours IS the old version. I am sure that the academics decided that as to pronounce the name in English / American English you do not need the second "C". It is of course amazing how for so long, at least when I was at school, she was known as "Boadicea" and still is in some quarters.  I suppose that's what happens when a name and language travel 2,000 years!! ;D ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Bigron on 10 January 2018, 19:54:51
Lizzie, 20 years of teaching teenage boys has rendered me immune from wind-ups!
I was content in the certainty that you were wrong..... :P

Ron.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 10 January 2018, 20:05:06
Lizzie, 20 years of teaching teenage boys has rendered me immune from wind-ups!
I was content in the certainty that you were wrong..... :P

Ron.

Ah, but the modern academics use the one I quoted...........I can sense another academic "discussion" coming up. ;D  :D :-* :-* ;)
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Bigron on 10 January 2018, 20:17:50
And we all know what "modern" academics are like, especially the Socialist ones.
No need for endless debate, Lizzie; just accept the fact that I am correct and you are weong - you are a woman, after all!  :P :P :P

Ron.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Bigron on 10 January 2018, 20:20:55
Yes, I did spot the typo, after I had pressed the "Post" button.
I will grant you one thing; women are better at typing than men - you know, another one of those boring, repetative tasks at which you are designed for.....

Ron (in hiding now - you can't see me).
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 10 January 2018, 20:23:14
And we all know what "modern" academics are like, especially the Socialist ones.
No need for endless debate, Lizzie; just accept the fact that I am correct and you are weong - you are a woman, after all!  :P :P :P

Ron.

And as a women I always want the last word! So..........no seriously this is a good point we have discussed, and I have found a great site that explains the reasons for different spelling:

http://penelope.uchicago.edu/~grout/encyclopaedia_romana/britannia/boudica/boadicea.html

 :-* :-* :y
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Bigron on 10 January 2018, 20:31:34
Very interesting, Lizzie, and confirmation of the misprint - actually mistranscript - which as I said earlier swapped the second "c" for an "e". That also re-inforces the case for spelling hewr name with two "c"s.
As also pointed out in that article, spelling was a moving target back then, when literacy wasn't widespread. Even The Bard spelled his name in different ways!

Ron.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 10 January 2018, 21:17:14
Very interesting, Lizzie, and confirmation of the misprint - actually mistranscript - which as I said earlier swapped the second "c" for an "e". That also re-inforces the case for spelling hewr name with two "c"s.
As also pointed out in that article, spelling was a moving target back then, when literacy wasn't widespread. Even The Bard spelled his name in different ways!

Ron.

Yes indeed, but many academics today do not use the 2nd C. Most of the academic papers and books that I have seen do not, as did my history lecturer at Uni.

The English Language has been evolving through the ages from it's many origins, Germanic, Latin, French, in particular, so has been a moving feast. I have spent many years reading tombstones (or trying to) and the way Olde English evolved to the modern, then now to an Americanised version of English, I find fascinating. The original writings of 16/17th century authors such as Thomas Hobbes, Leviathan (1651) is a very good for us today to see Olde English in it's raw state.  As you hinted, The Bard have helped that evolution by using the language of the day in it's most wonderful form.

No doubt historians and archelogists will get together again and come up with another 6 ways of spelling Boudica / Boudicca / Boadicia, etc...... ;)
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Bigron on 10 January 2018, 21:30:16
Whilst I don't disagree with you, I find such changes pointless in this context. Evolution of spelling/language usualy (but not always!) aids clarity, but in this case we both know whom we are talking about and therefore see no reason to deviate from the original Boudicca - makes me sound posher, too!
Good debate, thogh - now let's go back to talking about gravy?  :y

Ron.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Bigron on 10 January 2018, 21:34:16
Ugh, another typo!
Ok, before I leave this diverted topic (sorry OP), following the rules of English pronunciation, "Boudica" would need to be "Boo-dice-ea" and not the correct "Boo=dick-ah".

Ron.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 January 2018, 22:10:39
Boudica. :)

There is a small independent car manufacturer (sorry I can't recall its name) but it's new model is called Iceni. 
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 January 2018, 22:17:21
I've had a google. :)

The car company is called Trident ........so quite appropriate in the context of Boudica.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 10 January 2018, 22:36:02
Sausages!  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 January 2018, 23:12:29
Sausages!  ::)  ;D

The mutt from "That's life" ;D
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Rods2 on 11 January 2018, 03:05:11
Sausages!  ::)  ;D

Great as part of a full English breakfast of: 4 rashers of Bacon, 4 Sausages, two fried eggs on two slices of fried bread, a fried tomato, black pudding, fried mushrooms, half a tin of tomatoes, half a tin of beans all covered with plenty of brown sauce with a couple of slices of toast and butter on the side and washed down with a mug or two of coffee or tea. :y :y :y

Sets you up for the day and only the bigger eaters need to stop for a full lunch. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Bigron on 11 January 2018, 08:48:10
Rods2, it seems that you are as big an oink as me!
Have you tried a Toby Carvery's all-you-can-eat breakfast at £4:95? You get as much as you stated except fot the black pudding, with a yorkshire pud, scrambled and fried eggs and a potato and bacon thing, as much toast and jam as you want and bottom;ess tea/coffee for an extra £2.
I'm feeling hungry..... :)

Ron.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: aaronjb on 11 January 2018, 09:22:39
Just to drift off a little further, I've just borrowed a DVD of Disney's Fantasia from the library - just as wonderful as the first time I saw it in a News rheatre in London.

DVDs, libraries.. Lizzie reminiscing of a time before students got all their information from Wikipedia.

It's a 1990s timewarp! ;)

Next you'll be telling me you've popped down to Blockbuster to rent Dumbo, Ron :)
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Bigron on 11 January 2018, 09:38:35
No Aaron, I'm after Rock Follies next for the singing (magical Julie Covington) and the scenery (gorgeous Julie Covington)..... 8)

Ron.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 11 January 2018, 10:09:48
Whilst I don't disagree with you, I find such changes pointless in this context. Evolution of spelling/language usualy (but not always!) aids clarity, but in this case we both know whom we are talking about and therefore see no reason to deviate from the original Boudicca - makes me sound posher, too!
Good debate, thogh - now let's go back to talking about gravy?  :y

Ron.

Fair enough Ron :y :y

I love such debates, and miss very much those I had within the family, within business, and then even more so at university with top academics. Highly stimulating that made me question so much that I thought I knew. 8) 8)

Now gravy; beef always for me, but as previously stated with the fats of yesteryear. Like bacon rind that I eat raw for decades, why did we have to touch these things in the "interests of food safety" ?!

Debate anyone? ;D ;)
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 January 2018, 10:37:50
Whilst I don't disagree with you, I find such changes pointless in this context. Evolution of spelling/language usualy (but not always!) aids clarity, but in this case we both know whom we are talking about and therefore see no reason to deviate from the original Boudicca - makes me sound posher, too!
Good debate, thogh - now let's go back to talking about gravy?  :y

Ron.

Fair enough Ron :y :y

I love such debates, and miss very much those I had within the family, within business, and then even more so at university with top academics. Highly stimulating that made me question so much that I thought I knew. 8) 8)

Now gravy; beef always for me, but as previously stated with the fats of yesteryear. Like bacon rind that I eat raw for decades, why did we have to touch these things in the "interests of food safety" ?!

Debate anyone? ;D ;)


Crisped up.....maybe.

Raw......for the birds during the winter months.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: TheBoy on 11 January 2018, 17:43:35
and KFC dont deliver to our area  ::)
I had an emergency KFC when in lazydocker land. Fortunately, the hotel was within 40mins, so I made a mess of their potty, not my smalls.


WTF is in the Colonel's secret recipe of 11 herbs and spices?
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 11 January 2018, 17:47:01
and KFC dont deliver to our area  ::)
I had an emergency KFC when in lazydocker land. Fortunately, the hotel was within 40mins, so I made a mess of their potty, not my smalls.


WTF is in the Colonel's secret recipe of 11 herbs and spices?

Crystal Meth I reckon the amount and regularity that some eat it!  ::)
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: TheBoy on 11 January 2018, 17:52:35
I could never get fat on it, defo more comes out than goes in.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: BazaJT on 11 January 2018, 18:24:08
11 different variety of laxative perhaps? :D ;D Anyway not exactly a food but food related,as I live alone and work all day I think the best cooking aid ever invented-especially so in winter months has to be the slow cooker,bung stuff in in the morning while making a cuppa set it going and walk in later to a lovely aroma and a fully cooked meal :y
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Varche on 11 January 2018, 18:34:58
Agree re slow cookers, ours has just cracked and gone to the tip.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: amazonian on 11 January 2018, 20:12:43
Going back to the first post,  you can actually buy meatloaf in Lidl, and very tasty it is too.

 :)
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Bigron on 11 January 2018, 20:21:58
dare I ask what is in meatloaf - never had any; isa it as bad as/similar to corned beef?
I'll likely be going to Lidl tomorrow for wiper blades, so......

Ron.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: amazonian on 11 January 2018, 21:05:39
It is made of ground meat of virtually any kind and a mixture of onion/egg/salt/pepper/sage/breadcrumbs/milk and anything else you might want to add to taste.
The one I had was quite tasty though I have no idea what exactly was in it.
Worth a try.

 :) :)
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: STEMO on 11 January 2018, 21:32:15
It is made of ground meat of virtually any kind and a mixture of onion/egg/salt/pepper/sage/breadcrumbs/milk and anything else you might want to add to taste.
The one I had was quite tasty though I have no idea what exactly was in it.
Worth a try.

 :) :)
The same as most processed meat products: scrotum, eyeballs, connective tissue etc., and plenty of flavourings. Yum yum.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Rods2 on 11 January 2018, 22:43:19
It is made of ground meat of virtually any kind and a mixture of onion/egg/salt/pepper/sage/breadcrumbs/milk and anything else you might want to add to taste.
The one I had was quite tasty though I have no idea what exactly was in it.
Worth a try.

 :) :)
The same as most processed meat products: scrotum, eyeballs, connective tissue etc., and plenty of flavourings. Yum yum.

Pigs and  cows rectums probably. More upmarket brands wipe them before mincing and adding to their recipe. :o :o :o
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: ronnyd on 11 January 2018, 23:00:31
It is made of ground meat of virtually any kind and a mixture of onion/egg/salt/pepper/sage/breadcrumbs/milk and anything else you might want to add to taste.
The one I had was quite tasty though I have no idea what exactly was in it.
Worth a try.

 :) :)
The same as most processed meat products: scrotum, eyeballs, connective tissue etc., and plenty of flavourings. Yum yum.

Pigs and  cows rectums probably. More upmarket brands wipe them before mincing and adding to their recipe. :o :o :o
As Dan Ackroyd said in the film The Great Outdoors. "Burgers? they,re all just lips and assholes". ;D Great film.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: TheBoy on 12 January 2018, 17:15:25
Can I actually point out that the actual "cooking", whatever that is, is a pink job. Thus a job for girls and men who prefer men.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Rods2 on 13 January 2018, 19:30:58
Can I actually point out that the actual "cooking", whatever that is, is a pink job. Thus a job for girls and men who prefer men.

I'm sure there are a good few top chefs who would argue that point. :)
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: TheBoy on 13 January 2018, 19:34:32
Can I actually point out that the actual "cooking", whatever that is, is a pink job. Thus a job for girls and men who prefer men.

I'm sure there are a good few top chefs who would argue that point. :)
So the wannabe chef I sit next to at work tells me.  As I tell, they may be in men's bodies, but are women underneath. Or gay.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: STEMO on 13 January 2018, 19:46:25
Can I actually point out that the actual "cooking", whatever that is, is a pink job. Thus a job for girls and men who prefer men.

I'm sure there are a good few top chefs who would argue that point. :)
So the wannabe chef I sit next to at work tells me.  As I tell, they may be in men's bodies, but are women underneath. Or gay.
Very, very rich gays, though.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: TheBoy on 13 January 2018, 19:50:16
Can I actually point out that the actual "cooking", whatever that is, is a pink job. Thus a job for girls and men who prefer men.

I'm sure there are a good few top chefs who would argue that point. :)
So the wannabe chef I sit next to at work tells me.  As I tell, they may be in men's bodies, but are women underneath. Or gay.
Very, very rich gays, though.
Aye.  Who'd of thought it, you could make a fortune out of harvesting what comes from a cooker.

I suspect all this TV wank has a lot to do with it.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: BazaJT on 13 January 2018, 19:53:22
I do the shopping and cooking,because the alternative is starvation[or worse living on fast food take aways :D]and I'm in no rush to sample either ;D
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: TheBoy on 13 January 2018, 19:57:02
I do the shopping and cooking,because the alternative is starvation[or worse living on fast food take aways :D]and I'm in no rush to sample either ;D
Because I'm the modern man, in touch with my feminine side, I cooked myself lunch a couple of days ago. Proper posh nosh.  Only took 10mins, no idea what she grumbles about, and why she takes so long.

See, I AM the modern man. Millennium Man.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: BazaJT on 13 January 2018, 19:59:29
 :y :y :y ;D
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: TheBoy on 13 January 2018, 20:00:43
:y :y :y ;D
It was Beanz on Toast, and I did fokk it up a bit
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: STEMO on 13 January 2018, 20:04:32
Me and Baza wouldn’t starve without a female to skivvy for us.  :P
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: TheBoy on 13 January 2018, 20:05:53
Me and Baza wouldn’t starve without a female to skivvy for us.  :P
According to the ads, that's when you have an app on your phone, and suddenly 10,000 different dishes turn up ;D
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: STEMO on 13 January 2018, 20:08:15
I was gonna say “ Well.......I actually enjoy cooking......”. But, do I f**k.  ;D
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 13 January 2018, 20:22:00
Can I actually point out that the actual "cooking", whatever that is, is a pink job. Thus a job for girls and men who prefer men.

I'm sure there are a good few top chefs who would argue that point. :)
So the wannabe chef I sit next to at work tells me.  As I tell, they may be in men's bodies, but are women underneath. Or gay.

Wonder if Gordon Ramsay agrees  ::)
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Rods2 on 13 January 2018, 21:31:23
Last TB post 20:05, he is 5 minutes late for Mr & Mrs TB Saturday night new film time. I wonder what they are watching this week? 8)
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Mister Rog on 14 January 2018, 00:02:36


I need to lose weight. 122Kg I'd like to get down to 110Kg or less

Farmfoods have small frozen ready meals, about 350Kcals. Not enough for an evening meal (Tea, dinner, supper depending on how posh you are) but maybe ok for lunch. Most shop bought sarnies are 500kcals or more and I'm sure my normal is more. Lets see how it goes. I did something like this a few years ago and it worked great, it's all about limit and control. If I get back to 110Kg . . . . . I can pig out !







Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 14 January 2018, 00:51:11
Eat more rabbit food and chase more sheep Rog!  :y
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Mister Rog on 14 January 2018, 13:56:11
Eat more rabbit food and chase more sheep Rog!  :y

I don't need to chase. they come to me   ::)
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: Varche on 14 January 2018, 14:16:59


I need to lose weight. 122Kg I'd like to get down to 110Kg or less

Farmfoods have small frozen ready meals, about 350Kcals. Not enough for an evening meal (Tea, dinner, supper depending on how posh you are) but maybe ok for lunch. Most shop bought sarnies are 500kcals or more and I'm sure my normal is more. Lets see how it goes. I did something like this a few years ago and it worked great, it's all about limit and control. If I get back to 110Kg . . . . . I can pig out !

There now you have set the government off. In Spring they will be banging on about reducing portion sizes and calories thereinThat is the nextcampaign.
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: jaykay on 17 January 2018, 18:00:42
I suppose in this day and age the foods I grew up eating[still do!]would be classed as unhealthy stodge,but it was always made up of fresh ingredients.You could tell by what was for tea[dinner to the posh types who do lunch]what day of the week it was as it was the same thing every week e.g. every Monday it was hash made up of Sundays left overs plus bread to mop up the gravy.
OMG just what the doctor ordered LOL...wonderful food
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: jaykay on 17 January 2018, 18:05:02
Sausages!  ::)  ;D
I had to laugh
Title: Re: Food - Child hood days
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 17 January 2018, 18:55:19


I need to lose weight. 122Kg I'd like to get down to 110Kg or less

Farmfoods have small frozen ready meals, about 350Kcals. Not enough for an evening meal (Tea, dinner, supper depending on how posh you are) but maybe ok for lunch. Most shop bought sarnies are 500kcals or more and I'm sure my normal is more. Lets see how it goes. I did something like this a few years ago and it worked great, it's all about limit and control. If I get back to 110Kg . . . . . I can pig out !




If you are serious about losing weight I can recommend weight watchers, I was referred by my GP 3 years ago when I weighed 115 kilos got down to 95 kilos & have stayed there, like yourself I had lost weight previously but put it back on , you cannot go back to your old eating habits it's a complete change but definitely worth it, no more knee pains or shortage of breath, still eat well but no rubbish.