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General Discussion Area / Re: Lighter nights
« on: 02 April 2008, 18:30:47 »Quote
True... do you have a local LPG garage?
Not desperately. Got 4 that are about 15 miles, one in each compass direction.
Kevin
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Not desperately. Got 4 that are about 15 miles, one in each compass direction.
Kevin
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General Discussion Area / Re: Lighter nights
« on: 02 April 2008, 18:16:31 »
We aren't going to get very far without the filler this time either. 
Kevin
Kevin
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General Discussion Area / Re: Lighter nights
« on: 02 April 2008, 18:15:46 »
Very true. Tank was already mounted, and we didn't get round to the filler. :-/
Then again, it's a 4 pot, and hopefully we won't have to do runs out to get bits and pieces.
Kevin
Then again, it's a 4 pot, and hopefully we won't have to do runs out to get bits and pieces.
Kevin
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General Discussion Area / Re: Lighter nights
« on: 02 April 2008, 18:10:24 »Quote
QuoteI have got a timing light, yes, and a vac gauge. Might be a bit dusty. Not seen a dizzy for a while, especially one with a vac connection.
Brilliant, hopefully I can tinker with that for an hour or so thenQuote
You call the shots, Marie,
That's fine... but please bear in mind I probably won't last long with heavy, under-car work, I'm still recovering / struggling with my chest... so I wouldn't be much help in the gearbox fitting dept at the moment..
OK. No problem, James. You can be on drill and tap detail with the intake manifold if you like.
Kevin
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General Discussion Area / Re: Lighter nights
« on: 02 April 2008, 17:55:57 »
I have got a timing light, yes, and a vac gauge. Might be a bit dusty. Not seen a dizzy for a while, especially one with a vac connection .
You call the shots, Marie, so whatever you see as the highest priority we'll tackle first be that LPG or gearbox.
Kevin
.You call the shots, Marie, so whatever you see as the highest priority we'll tackle first be that LPG or gearbox.
Kevin
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General Discussion Area / Re: Lighter nights
« on: 02 April 2008, 16:09:35 »Quote
QuoteMight be able to have a quick look at it at the weekend if it fits up my road let alone in the garage, and Marie's stuff goes OK.It would be good if we could.. although I must admit I'd resigned myself to the idea that the whole weekend will be taken up with her LPG conversion...
Kevin
.. and plugging of autobox leaks.
Can't promise a lot but I know my way around the engine, or at least have in the past, so may spot if something is amiss.
Kevin
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General Discussion Area / Re: Lighter nights
« on: 02 April 2008, 16:01:24 »
Might be able to have a quick look at it at the weekend if it fits up my road let alone in the garage, and Marie's stuff goes OK.
Kevin
Kevin
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General Discussion Area / Re: Failed MOT today
« on: 02 April 2008, 19:05:54 »
Something silver that shouldn't be? 
Kevin
Kevin
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General Discussion Area / Re: LPG (again)
« on: 01 April 2008, 22:24:47 »
Following up on no. 1.
It's entirely possible that if an LPG system has not been correctly tuned and the fuelling is too lean, and you then hoof it, you could burn out a piston or valve. Maybe this is
@rse covering too. :-/
Kevin
It's entirely possible that if an LPG system has not been correctly tuned and the fuelling is too lean, and you then hoof it, you could burn out a piston or valve. Maybe this is
@rse covering too. :-/
Kevin
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General Discussion Area / Re: LPG (again)
« on: 01 April 2008, 22:08:59 »Quote
Was speaking to a company this afternoon regarding their quote etc etc, the guy had a few things to say that I'd like others opinions on ...I've heard this about Ford V6s but never the GM V6. Plenty of evidence to the contrary amongst our members. :-/
1. Omega V6 engine can be "fragile" when converted to LPG, it can fail for piston/valve burnout after 30-50,000 miles.
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2. He recommends the thermostat/cam cover gaskets/HBV/HT leads/CPP units and spark plugs are all replaced before hand to avoid having to disturb the LPG fit.@rse covering, I reckon. He knows that if these fail during the warranty on the conversion you may be back to him because the LPG system has been disturbed by some muppet and doesn't work any more. It's fair to say that the HT system needs to be in good condition and it would look bad on him if the LPG conversion didn't go well due to the plugs / leads being old, or if he later tells you you need to splash out to replace them etc. For a DIY install, I'd probably see how it goes, but replace the plugs if they've got significant mileage on them.
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3. CPP units will probably only last 25000 miles on LPG as they overheat due to the engine running hotter on LPG.Rubbish. Engine temperature is determined by the thermostat. As said, all ignition components have a harder time on LPG so if a part is failing anyway it might fail shortly after conversion but heat's got nothing to do with it. I'll be surprised if their life is so significantly reduced.
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Any views anyone ??
Kevin
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General Discussion Area / Re: LPG (again)
« on: 28 March 2008, 16:36:12 »Quote
As to DIY, Kevin does have a wide band Lambda whish is VERY usefull for getting the mixture correct
True. I'm hoping it will be useful when the time comes. However, I may have an easier method for 2.2/2.6/3.2 cars.
My ELM code reader can read live data, so I can see what long and short term Lambda corrections are being applied by the ECU, hence no need to replace one of the Lambdas with a wideband, and put together some sort of loom to feed a "simulated narrow band" output back into the ECU.
Only downside with that is that using a wideband you can map right up to full load at full revs whereas you've got to guesstimate that without.
Kevin
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General Discussion Area / Re: LPG (again)
« on: 28 March 2008, 15:10:17 »Quote
Saying nothing but I would definately DIY again.
There's too much that I wouldn't be prepared to entrust to someone else. Cutting holes in the bodyshell and rustproofing them properly... Drilling and tapping the intake and cleaning all the swarf out properly.... Not bodging the electrics... Tuning it sensibly...
And LPGA approval means nothing.
Kevin
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General Discussion Area / Re: LPG (again)
« on: 28 March 2008, 14:59:31 »Quote
mine's the dream 21 OMVL kit i paid £1250 for
make sure the fitters are better qualified than the f**kwit that did mine
b***cks to naming and shaming... dont get it done in wigan, thats all i'll say
How is yours going now, Danny?
Looking at the price of petrol still creeping up I think I will have to sacrifice some of my boot sooner or later.
Kevin
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General Discussion Area / Re: LPG (again)
« on: 28 March 2008, 11:52:25 »
I agree. That price doesn't cover the cost of enough labour to do the job right, IMHO. I'd want to see a car he's converted first.
When we did James' Facelift 2.5 3 of us were working on it pretty much solidly for a whole weekend (into the evenings) apart from an hour or so when we went for a jaunt to get some bits. That's three guys who are reasonably mechanically competent albeit we don't do LPG conversions every day. Oh, and the tank was already fitted in the car so it was fitting the front end and the fuel line only.
Kevin
When we did James' Facelift 2.5 3 of us were working on it pretty much solidly for a whole weekend (into the evenings) apart from an hour or so when we went for a jaunt to get some bits. That's three guys who are reasonably mechanically competent albeit we don't do LPG conversions every day. Oh, and the tank was already fitted in the car so it was fitting the front end and the fuel line only.
Kevin
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General Discussion Area / Re: Yeeeesssshh!
« on: 02 April 2008, 18:05:06 »
The hard work has been done and paid for!
Upgrading a front end is much less work. 4-500 quid for the bits, maybe a bit back from selling the old system, and about a day to fit it and get it running I reckon.
Kevin
Upgrading a front end is much less work. 4-500 quid for the bits, maybe a bit back from selling the old system, and about a day to fit it and get it running I reckon.
Kevin