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TheBoy:
I see there are no end of protests in Jockular land about Trump paying a private visit to one of his businesses for a quick break.

I also see that the Sir David Attenborough is hopefully being launched today, a boat made famous by the Boaty McBoatface voting saga.


I think we have to accept that the British public are incredibly thick and stupid, and getting orders of magnitude worse with each generation.

Bigron:
Except for me and thee, TB.  :y :y :y 8)

Ron.

Sir Tigger KC:
The Trump protestors are fooking tossers!  >:(

Where were they when Erdogan of Turkey who has 50,000 political prisoners came?  ???

Where were they when the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia whose country has caused a humanitarian catastrophe in Yemen and has only just allowed women the freedom to drive?  ???

Where were they when the Commonwealth Heads of Government conference was in London, where some of these leaders criminalise homosexuality?  Yoweri Museveni of Uganda for example.  ???

Why don't they take to the streets to protest about serious human rights issues, like 'honour killings' in Pakistan or FGM in East Africa for example?  ??? ::)

I'd wager that the vast majority havn't a clue about why they are really there.  It's just trendy to jump on the Trump outrage bus and do a bit of virtual signalling!  ::)  Right on man!  :)

Tossers!  >:(

Lizzie Zoom:

--- Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 14 July 2018, 11:53:53 ---The Trump protestors are fooking tossers!  >:(

Where were they when Erdogan of Turkey who has 50,000 political prisoners came?  ???

Where were they when the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia whose country has caused a humanitarian catastrophe in Yemen and has only just allowed women the freedom to drive?  ???

Where were they when the Commonwealth Heads of Government conference was in London, where some of these leaders criminalise homosexuality?  Yoweri Museveni of Uganda for example.  ???

Why don't they take to the streets to protest about serious human rights issues, like 'honour killings' in Pakistan or FGM in East Africa for example?  ??? ::)

I'd wager that the vast majority havn't a clue about why they are really there.  It's just trendy to jump on the Trump outrage bus and do a bit of virtual signalling!  ::)  Right on man!  :)

Tossers!  >:(

--- End quote ---


Agreed! :y :y

What do they think they are going to achieve anyway?!  Trump resigning?  Trump not being the Trump that the American people voted for under their electoral system?  An apologetic Trump? Trump not putting America first?

Fat chance of any of that!  In any case, although not originally a supporter of his, I now love his style; strong, unapologetic, and someone who Knows what he wants and goes out to get it! 8) 8) 8) :y

Rods2:
If you don't accept the right for people to differ with you and the right to protest on an agenda you disagree with then you end up with the alternatives like Russia, China, DPRK, Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia etc, etc where you have no rights and own nothing, it is all leased to you, including your life by the dictator and their state apparatus and any lease can be terminated without any notice or appeal at anytime. There is very little middle ground and very few countries between these two extremes, with Singapore the only one that springs to mind.

Countries like Russia flirted with the former and are now at the latter. Turkey is rapidly losing its freedom and democracy, Pakistan and India may joint them, along with the USA. Also never forget that the EEC & EU were always planned at the end of WWII as a dictatorship, by the French where they didn't and still don't trust democracy which is why the end journey of ever closer union is the EUSSR. If you think the EU being a dictatorship doesn't matter then I would suggest to study how the EU has treated Greece, where EU laws doesn't apply to the little, broke countries, if the upholding of the laws (and international law) hurts the big bullying EU countries of Germany and France economically.

This is especially true in DPRK, Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia. This is where we were pre-1215AD and the Magna Carta with absolute rule by the monarch and his state upper class apparatus, but society and freedoms have evolved since then until we are where we are now. Personally, I think the left's absolute rights for minor minorities agenda while neglecting the majority has gone too far and is why in many ways we are where we are now, but that is another story.

The post-WWII international order is collapsing and where the West can't be bothered to defend ourselves (we also can't be bothered to breed enough to replace ourselves anymore either), so by default we will be taken over (probably without even a shot being fired) by one of the new empires, centred around China, Russia and Iran. All very nasty dictatorships, that want their big empires more than we want independence, freedom and democracy. Remainers show that 48% of the UK don't want democracy and are perfectly happy to live an ordered rule based life run as a dictatorship, until they get there of course, but by then it will be too late.

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