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Re: Car shopping
« Reply #255 on: 10 October 2018, 22:16:17 »

Excellent choice.😎
Yes. What does the 250 part stand for, 2.5 litre or 250 BHP? :y
I think it means it produces similar power to their old, knackered 2.5.

Bro's new S Class is a 350, but is only a 3l, and makes a miserable 260ish...

my R320 is just 224bhp  ;)
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Re: Car shopping
« Reply #256 on: 10 October 2018, 22:21:10 »

Excellent choice.😎
Yes. What does the 250 part stand for, 2.5 litre or 250 BHP? :y
I think it means it produces similar power to their old, knackered 2.5.

Bro's new S Class is a 350, but is only a 3l, and makes a miserable 260ish...

my R320 is just 224bhp  ;)
That's no good, Andy. On our free flowing, uncluttered, roadwork free highways you need at least 300bhp to make good progress.  ::)
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Re: Car shopping
« Reply #257 on: 10 October 2018, 22:24:39 »

Excellent choice.😎
Yes. What does the 250 part stand for, 2.5 litre or 250 BHP? :y
I think it means it produces similar power to their old, knackered 2.5.

Bro's new S Class is a 350, but is only a 3l, and makes a miserable 260ish...

my R320 is just 224bhp  ;)
That's no good, Andy. On our free flowing, uncluttered, roadwork free highways you need at least 300bhp to make good progress.  ::)
;D ;D ;D
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Re: Car shopping
« Reply #258 on: 11 October 2018, 00:00:40 »

Excellent choice.😎
Yes. What does the 250 part stand for, 2.5 litre or 250 BHP? :y
I think it means it produces similar power to their old, knackered 2.5.

Bro's new S Class is a 350, but is only a 3l, and makes a miserable 260ish...

my R320 is just 224bhp  ;)
That's no good, Andy. On our free flowing, uncluttered, roadwork free highways you need at least 300bhp to make good progress.  ::)
Never a truer word in jest...

You need the oomph to be able to safely pass in the smaller opportunities now available  :-\
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Re: Car shopping
« Reply #259 on: 11 October 2018, 07:12:41 »

Excellent choice.😎
Yes. What does the 250 part stand for, 2.5 litre or 250 BHP? :y
I think it means it produces similar power to their old, knackered 2.5.

Bro's new S Class is a 350, but is only a 3l, and makes a miserable 260ish...

my R320 is just 224bhp  ;)
That's no good, Andy. On our free flowing, uncluttered, roadwork free highways you need at least 300bhp to make good progress.  ::)
Never a truer word in jest...

You need the oomph to be able to safely pass in the smaller opportunities now available  :-\
As Nick said in another thread...no, you don't. You just need to be able to drive properly.
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Re: Car shopping
« Reply #260 on: 11 October 2018, 07:27:19 »

That's no good, Andy. On our free flowing, uncluttered, roadwork free highways you need at least 300bhp to make good progress.  ::)
Never a truer word in jest...

You need the oomph to be able to safely pass in the smaller opportunities now available  :-\


What you actually need for that is a small car.
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Re: Car shopping
« Reply #261 on: 11 October 2018, 07:46:55 »

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What you actually need for that is a small car.

That depends on who/what you want to carry in it. My Smart is no good for carrying SWMBO & my grand daughter & the dog & stuff to go to the beach with  ;D
My Smart & R Class both have a similar power to weight ratio ..... 84bhp and 850kg compared with 224bhp & 2200kg  :y :y
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Re: Car shopping
« Reply #262 on: 11 October 2018, 08:25:59 »

Relatively speaking, the R class is underpowered as it weighs almost three times as much... Although the real number you need to look at is torque ;)

To drive, the Smart probably feels nippier, but in a drag race, the R Class will wipe the floor with it...
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Re: Car shopping
« Reply #263 on: 11 October 2018, 08:32:32 »

Relatively speaking, the R class is underpowered as it weighs almost three times as much... Although the real number you need to look at is torque ;)

To drive, the Smart probably feels nippier, but in a drag race, the R Class will wipe the floor with it...

Agreed. And the R Class has twice the transmission gear. The Smart is pretty good off the line but runs out of steam fairly early. And at motorway speeds you really do want to be in the R Class rather than the Smart (in all honesty, I'd prefer the Omega at anything much over motorways speeds as you do notice that the R Class is top heavy when 'pressing on')

And the Roadster will wipe the floor with most things on a twisty A/B road as it just goes round corners like on rails  ;D ;D
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Re: Car shopping
« Reply #264 on: 11 October 2018, 11:05:40 »

My 163bhp astra diesel has plenty of low down grunt and will accelerate from 60 to 80/90 very quickly, so motorways are not a problem. On the other roads I drive on, I very seldom get the chance to overtake but, when I do, it's adequate.
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Re: Car shopping
« Reply #265 on: 11 October 2018, 12:06:06 »

The old Zafira, one of the more powerful at 150bhp was ok for me in all honesty, I do mostly A road driving, and quite twisty ones at that, so being being able to quickly and safely get past trucks and tractors in small opportunities is a must.  I didn't want stupid speeds in my next one, but ideally a little quicker.  That said, I do seem to have bought one which is more of an improvement than I needed too :D

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Re: Car shopping
« Reply #266 on: 11 October 2018, 12:23:19 »

The old Zafira, one of the more powerful at 150bhp was ok for me in all honesty, I do mostly A road driving, and quite twisty ones at that, so being being able to quickly and safely get past trucks and tractors in small opportunities is a must.  I didn't want stupid speeds in my next one, but ideally a little quicker. That said, I do seem to have bought one which is more of an improvement than I needed too :D.

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Re: Car shopping
« Reply #267 on: 11 October 2018, 14:03:22 »

The old Zafira, one of the more powerful at 150bhp was ok for me in all honesty, I do mostly A road driving, and quite twisty ones at that, so being being able to quickly and safely get past trucks and tractors in small opportunities is a must.  I didn't want stupid speeds in my next one, but ideally a little quicker.  That said, I do seem to have bought one which is more of an improvement than I needed too :D.

I'd be interested to hear how you compare the 3.2 and E250 performance, both give around 200bhp, but the Merc will have more torque.

I like the effortless performance of my 3.2, be good to to see if the E250 is similar.

Given like STEMO and yourself I'm happy with the 163bhp Tourer's performance.
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Re: Car shopping
« Reply #268 on: 11 October 2018, 14:14:27 »

The E220 went well enough for its size... Mine was one of the last with the 5 speed auto, so wasn't quite as economical as the facelift cars.

Relatively speaking, the R class is underpowered as it weighs almost three times as much... Although the real number you need to look at is torque ;)

To drive, the Smart probably feels nippier, but in a drag race, the R Class will wipe the floor with it...

Agreed. And the R Class has twice the transmission gear. The Smart is pretty good off the line but runs out of steam fairly early. And at motorway speeds you really do want to be in the R Class rather than the Smart (in all honesty, I'd prefer the Omega at anything much over motorways speeds as you do notice that the R Class is top heavy when 'pressing on')

And the Roadster will wipe the floor with most things on a twisty A/B road as it just goes round corners like on rails  ;D ;D
The Trolley goes well enough but gets quite thrashy over 80 or so... but handles better than the looks might suggest.

Be interesting to see how its stablemate goes and handles ;)
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Re: Car shopping
« Reply #269 on: 11 October 2018, 21:00:11 »

The old Zafira, one of the more powerful at 150bhp was ok for me in all honesty
My Battlebus was 100bhp when it left the factory.  No idea what it is now, I'd guess 7-80bhp.  It definitely isn't powerful enough, even for tunnie/nick w
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