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« on: 13 October 2018, 21:47:35 »

I let my local garage do a pair of wishbones. my front n/s locking nut has been swapped for a different type. I presume somebody is driving around with an odd one.  ::) :y
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Re: locking nuts
« Reply #1 on: 13 October 2018, 22:36:00 »

Why are you still using locking nuts?

Pointless things just make a job harder.  :-\
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Re: locking nuts
« Reply #2 on: 14 October 2018, 12:48:50 »

Why are you still using locking nuts?

Pointless things just make a job harder.  :-\
wheel theft is on the increase again  >:(
and a set of decent tyres won't leave you much change out of £500 ,let alone the hassle and cost of finding replacement wheels . :'(
if you have locking wheel nuts, use them ,
anything to slow down or deter the thieving scumbags
(apparently you can't shoot or stab them anymore  :-\ due to some new law? )
just remember to check you have the locking tool back if you have garages / tyre fitters do work   :y
 
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Re: locking nuts
« Reply #3 on: 14 October 2018, 12:50:58 »

You forget that GM locking nuts are so utter crap that the only people who can get them off are the scrotes.

A locking wheelnut will not slow them down.


(Can't remember the last time I got a set (of 4) tyres for £500 :()
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« Reply #4 on: 14 October 2018, 12:54:37 »

I use Mcgard locknuts on all our vehicles the ones supplied by manufacturers are usually utter rubbish never had any problems with Mcgard.
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Re: locking nuts
« Reply #5 on: 14 October 2018, 13:55:29 »

Why are you still using locking nuts?

Pointless things just make a job harder.  :-\
wheel theft is on the increase again  >:(
and a set of decent tyres won't leave you much change out of £500 ,let alone the hassle and cost of finding replacement wheels . :'(
if you have locking wheel nuts, use them ,
anything to slow down or deter the thieving scumbags
(apparently you can't shoot or stab them anymore  :-\ due to some new law? )
just remember to check you have the locking tool back if you have garages / tyre fitters do work   :y

Completely disagree. They are soft as cheese, garages spin them up to 1,000,000 Nm of torque and are an utter pain to remove.

No one wants Vauxhall alloys, especially 16/17's the world is now 18/19/20 for popular nickable ones.

Also as TB says, they are useless and won't slow anyone down who really wants them.
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Re: locking nuts
« Reply #6 on: 14 October 2018, 14:30:11 »


(Can't remember the last time I got a set (of 4) tyres for £500 :()

I did a couple of years back for my Roadster  :y .... £60 a piece for Dunlop Rainmaster  ;D

Wish I could do the same for the Merc ..... £200 a corner & I could do witha pair just now.
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Re: locking nuts
« Reply #7 on: 14 October 2018, 15:05:04 »


Why are you still using locking nuts?

Pointless things just make a job harder.  :-\
So harder to steal !!!!
Completely disagree. They are soft as cheese, garages spin them up to 1,000,000 Nm of torque and are an utter pain to remove.
harder for scum to steal then  ;D
so don't let the garage do work if they don't know how to do up a nut , or find a garage that torque to sensible amount and double check they have and given you the locking adapter back .
No one wants Vauxhall alloys, especially 16/17's the world is now 18/19/20 for popular nickable ones.

16 and 17 inch tyres fit many cars ,even new ones ,and there is a massive market for part worn ,not everyone buys brand new tyres ,alloys sell on ebay etc even 16" (because they fit astra,zafira,etc etc and even have scrap value if mullered being removed during theft.
maybe you have a better class of thieving scumbag near you  :-\, but ,in many parts of the country , a set of 16" alloys with good tyres are worth robbing 
won't slow anyone down who really wants them.
won't stop a determined thief, but WILL slow one down, deter them  ;)
 
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« Reply #8 on: 14 October 2018, 15:07:41 »

It's a looooooong time since I heard of anyone having their wheels stolen, and I know lots of people from Liverpool.  ;D
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« Reply #9 on: 14 October 2018, 15:11:14 »

It's a looooooong time since I heard of anyone having their wheels stolen, and I know lots of people from Liverpool.  ;D
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Scousers are the salt of the Earth. Can't imagine anyone from Liverpool taking something that doesn't belong to them. :)
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« Reply #10 on: 14 October 2018, 15:12:08 »

It's a looooooong time since I heard of anyone having their wheels stolen, and I know lots of people from Liverpool.  ;D
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Scousers are the salt of the Earth. Can't imagine anyone from Liverpool taking something that doesn't belong to them. :)
Do I detect a note of sarcasm?  :-\
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« Reply #11 on: 14 October 2018, 15:13:21 »

It's a looooooong time since I heard of anyone having their wheels stolen, and I know lots of people from Liverpool.  ;D
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Scousers are the salt of the Earth. Can't imagine anyone from Liverpool taking something that doesn't belong to them. :)
Do I detect a note of sarcasm?  :-\

Certainly not. I genuinely believe it to be the gospel truth.

I give you my word as a gentleman.
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« Reply #12 on: 14 October 2018, 15:16:48 »

It's a looooooong time since I heard of anyone having their wheels stolen, and I know lots of people from Liverpool.  ;D
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Scousers are the salt of the Earth. Can't imagine anyone from Liverpool taking something that doesn't belong to them. :)
Do I detect a note of sarcasm?  :-\

Certainly not. I genuinely believe it to be the gospel truth.

I give you my word as a gentleman.
Now I know you're lying, you bastard  ;D
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Re: locking nuts
« Reply #13 on: 14 October 2018, 15:41:30 »

It's a looooooong time since I heard of anyone having their wheels stolen, and I know lots of people from Liverpool.  ;D
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Scousers are the salt of the Earth. Can't imagine anyone from Liverpool taking something that doesn't belong to them. :)
Do I detect a note of sarcasm?  :-\

Certainly not. I genuinely believe it to be the gospel truth.

I give you my word as a gentleman.
Now I know you're lying, you bastard ;D

I can't tell you how hurt I feel. I feel I need a safe space  for the trauma. :)
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« Reply #14 on: 14 October 2018, 15:50:12 »

It's a looooooong time since I heard of anyone having their wheels stolen, and I know lots of people from Liverpool.  ;D
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Scousers are the salt of the Earth. Can't imagine anyone from Liverpool taking something that doesn't belong to them. :)
Do I detect a note of sarcasm?  :-\

Certainly not. I genuinely believe it to be the gospel truth.

I give you my word as a gentleman.
Now I know you're lying, you bastard ;D

I can't tell you how hurt I feel. I feel I need a safe space  for the trauma. :)
Go and have a nice, quiet sit in your orangery. You'll feel much better soon.  ;D
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« Reply #15 on: 14 October 2018, 17:13:52 »

I use an " old Indian trick" take them off myself & put them back on myself always works.
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Re: locking nuts
« Reply #16 on: 14 October 2018, 17:37:08 »

I use an " old Indian trick" take them off myself & put them back on myself always works.
excellent choice  :)
 
I do all our fleet , if at all possible
both front wheels on the crapasso where stupid tight after going to the clutch cowboys (i was too busy to do the clutch,the crapasso  now sits rotting in the corner awaiting the court case result ,soon to be scrapped)
the Zafira which replaced it had front wheel nuts that tight I broke 2 braces.
I have just invested £20  :o in an Aldi windy gun* ,for when i find other "mechanics" incompetence to deal with

* quality item with 3 year warranty  :D
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Re: locking nuts
« Reply #17 on: 15 October 2018, 09:03:04 »

I just went through the process of losing my locking wheel nut key and called a fella who arrived in an hour and had all four locking nuts off in about 15 minutes.

Not much of a deterrent.
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Re: locking nuts
« Reply #18 on: 15 October 2018, 09:09:29 »


Why are you still using locking nuts?

Pointless things just make a job harder.  :-\
So harder to steal !!!!
Completely disagree. They are soft as cheese, garages spin them up to 1,000,000 Nm of torque and are an utter pain to remove.
harder for scum to steal then  ;D
so don't let the garage do work if they don't know how to do up a nut , or find a garage that torque to sensible amount and double check they have and given you the locking adapter back .
No one wants Vauxhall alloys, especially 16/17's the world is now 18/19/20 for popular nickable ones.

16 and 17 inch tyres fit many cars ,even new ones ,and there is a massive market for part worn ,not everyone buys brand new tyres ,alloys sell on ebay etc even 16" (because they fit astra,zafira,etc etc and even have scrap value if mullered being removed during theft.
maybe you have a better class of thieving scumbag near you  :-\, but ,in many parts of the country , a set of 16" alloys with good tyres are worth robbing 
won't slow anyone down who really wants them.
won't stop a determined thief, but WILL slow one down, deter them  ;)

You miss understand. Pain for average DIYer to remove, a proper thief would have off in seconds

I still believe Omega alloys are worthless, no one would bother stealing. They would go after BMW Audi etc.

We drive sub £1k bangers, on a good day the whole car is worth £500. So wheels worth sod all!
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« Reply #19 on: 15 October 2018, 11:58:59 »

My tyres on our 3 are all fairly new & stand me about £1500 in total so if I've got them I will use them ,takes me no  time to take them off if needed, all good quality nuts & removal socket so in the end you get what you pay for. There have been thefts of tyres & wheels in this county especially 4x4s.
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« Reply #20 on: 15 October 2018, 12:38:34 »


You miss understand. Pain for average DIYer to remove, a proper thief would have off in seconds

I still believe Omega alloys are worthless, no one would bother stealing. They would go after BMW Audi etc.

We drive sub £1k bangers, on a good day the whole car is worth £500. So wheels worth sod all!

As I said, wheel lock nuts are a deterrent, in the same way removing the keys from the ignition when your not in the car
yes , a good thief could still steal the car (recovery truck ,hyab etc ) but removing the keys slows them down

thieves are lazy , if we all make it too hard to steal stuff and give harsh sentences then they will not bother stealing

If Omega alloys are "worthless", please post a link to a cheap set , in good condition for my 53 plate CDXi , oh and a set of branded 225 55 r16 cheap , my current ones are Goodyear with only about 1000 miles wear  on them
so to me , worth £500(what they cost) + alloys  ;D
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« Reply #21 on: 15 October 2018, 14:14:58 »


You miss understand. Pain for average DIYer to remove, a proper thief would have off in seconds

I still believe Omega alloys are worthless, no one would bother stealing. They would go after BMW Audi etc.

We drive sub £1k bangers, on a good day the whole car is worth £500. So wheels worth sod all!

As I said, wheel lock nuts are a deterrent, in the same way removing the keys from the ignition when your not in the car
yes , a good thief could still steal the car (recovery truck ,hyab etc ) but removing the keys slows them down

thieves are lazy , if we all make it too hard to steal stuff and give harsh sentences then they will not bother stealing

If Omega alloys are "worthless", please post a link to a cheap set , in good condition for my 53 plate CDXi , oh and a set of branded 225 55 r16 cheap , my current ones are Goodyear with only about 1000 miles wear  on them
so to me , worth £500(what they cost) + alloy;D

But in reality worth sod all. What they are worth to you is very different from actual worth....

About 6 years ago now, I bought off here, a set of 4 CD spec Omega alloys, complete with specialist Winter tyres. Dunlop Winter Sports fitted, all near brand new.  I paid £120 for all of them.

Also year or two before that, I bought set of 4 unmarked CDX alloys, with Kumho tyres nearly new. Did 40k on them. I paid £90 for those, all 4 including tyres.

Soo... Omega wheels, worthless.  ;)

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Re: locking nuts
« Reply #22 on: 15 October 2018, 14:35:37 »

A quick rummage on Ebay suggests that a set of Vauxhall alloys varies from £80 to £300 depending condition/tyres and that tyres are anything from £25 to retail. Not to mention the total, utter ball ache of having to replace them.

So actually having locking bolts is worth while as a deterrent. And provided you look after them, they are no harder to remove/refit than a normal wheel bolt.
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« Reply #23 on: 15 October 2018, 14:54:14 »


You miss understand. Pain for average DIYer to remove, a proper thief would have off in seconds

I still believe Omega alloys are worthless, no one would bother stealing. They would go after BMW Audi etc.

We drive sub £1k bangers, on a good day the whole car is worth £500. So wheels worth sod all!

As I said, wheel lock nuts are a deterrent, in the same way removing the keys from the ignition when your not in the car
yes , a good thief could still steal the car (recovery truck ,hyab etc ) but removing the keys slows them down

thieves are lazy , if we all make it too hard to steal stuff and give harsh sentences then they will not bother stealing

If Omega alloys are "worthless", please post a link to a cheap set , in good condition for my 53 plate CDXi , oh and a set of branded 225 55 r16 cheap , my current ones are Goodyear with only about 1000 miles wear  on them
so to me , worth £500(what they cost) + alloy;D

But in reality worth sod all. What they are worth to you is very different from actual worth....

About 6 years ago now, I bought off here, a set of 4 CD spec Omega alloys, complete with specialist Winter tyres. Dunlop Winter Sports fitted, all near brand new.  I paid £120 for all of them.

Also year or two before that, I bought set of 4 unmarked CDX alloys, with Kumho tyres nearly new. Did 40k on them. I paid £90 for those, all 4 including tyres.

Soo... Omega wheels, worthless;)
Again with the "worthless" :-\
worthless .....
adjective
having no real value or use.

if mine where nicked , i'd need replacements p.d.q
someone with water leaking through their ceiling  would not be impressed if i said "just waiting for a set of wheels to come up for sale very cheap or free on forums or ebay,should only take weeks or months because omega wheels are worthless"

and why pay £120 and £90 for "worthless" omega wheels  :-\
surely that implies you think they where worth good money

I await links for the free / cheap "worthless" wheels & good tyres  :)

I'm not trying to be an argumentative **** ,
in my opinion , theft prevention is worth doing if you have locks
and the word "worthless" should not be used unless describing something like a b&w crt tv with no value

ebay has omega wheels a plenty , but the sellers all want money  :D ;D



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« Reply #24 on: 15 October 2018, 15:22:34 »

A quick rummage on Ebay suggests that a set of Vauxhall alloys varies from £80 to £300 depending condition/tyres and that tyres are anything from £25 to retail. Not to mention the total, utter ball ache of having to replace them.

So actually having locking bolts is worth while as a deterrent. And provided you look after them, they are no harder to remove/refit than a normal wheel bolt.



At last a sensible comment 😀
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« Reply #25 on: 15 October 2018, 16:06:20 »

Remind me, when was the last time someone here in the last 10+ years has stated their wheels were stolen?

Not once in this forums life time can I recall, who has had their wheels nicked off their Omega.
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« Reply #26 on: 15 October 2018, 16:13:12 »

How many still own an Omega?

Agreed that if you can't be bothered to torque them properly or look after them then they probably aren't for you...

But they serve a purpose and, if factory supplied, as the Omega ones are, then they are probably a condition of insurance.

Put another way, if someone comes and pinches three*wheels of your drive, do let us know how claiming works for you  ;)

*two from the Omega and one from the Zaf should really screw your week up.
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« Reply #27 on: 15 October 2018, 16:18:17 »

A quick rummage on Ebay suggests that a set of Vauxhall alloys varies from £80 to £300 depending condition/tyres and that tyres are anything from £25 to retail. Not to mention the total, utter ball ache of having to replace them.

So actually having locking bolts is worth while as a deterrent. And provided you look after them, they are no harder to remove/refit than a normal wheel bolt.



At last a sensible comment 😀
I 100% agree with everything DG said in that post

especially the bit "utter ball ache of having to replace them"
because time sorting out a loss due to theft adds up considerably
traveling to have tyres fitted and ballanced,waiting in for courriers etc and stress

so opinions are split
some think locking wheel nuts are worth the time to re-fit
others think it pointless or even making work
as locking wheel nuts are not covered in the bible/quran etc  I think we are allowed to agree to disagree on the matter  :y

Remind me, when was the last time someone here in the last 10+ years has stated their wheels were stolen?

Not once in this forums life time can I recall, who has had their wheels nicked off their Omega.

Not on this forum ,but I had 2 go off an omega A (carlton) around 10 years ago, they didn't even bother to use bricks, just dropped the car on it's discs  :'(
also had trailer wheels robbed about 5 years ago

so, for me , a sore subject

How many still own an Omega?

Agreed that if you can't be bothered to torque them properly or look after them then they probably aren't for you...

But they serve a purpose and, if factory supplied, as the Omega ones are, then they are probably a condition of insurance.

Put another way, if someone comes and pinches three*wheels of your drive, do let us know how claiming works for you  ;)

*two from the Omega and one from the Zaf should really screw your week up.

Claim and it will cost you more than you may think, protected no claims on car insurance will still see your premium go up, crime figures will see your home insurance go up and your home value go down
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« Reply #28 on: 15 October 2018, 16:19:28 »

And that presumes that they will even pay out if locking nuts aren't fitted...

Incidentally, I know of one Omega that has had its wheel nuts tampered with in the last six months and it was garaged...
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« Reply #29 on: 15 October 2018, 18:36:27 »

The crappy GM wheelbolts are fine as long as a "professional" doesn't go near them. I mean, FFS, Blackcircles managed to opps up Jag locking wheelbolts, and they are miles more robust than GM ones.

The GM ones don't cope at all with any impact guns, air or battery.  That includes undoing them.
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« Reply #30 on: 15 October 2018, 19:01:00 »

The crappy GM wheelbolts are fine as long as a "professional" doesn't go near them. I mean, FFS, Blackcircles managed to opps up Jag locking wheelbolts, and they are miles more robust than GM ones.

The GM ones don't cope at all with any impact guns, air or battery.  That includes undoing them.


None of them are any good. As soon as they're overtightened, or damaged in any way and that applies to the keys as well, you're going to have problems.
Best fitted in the bin, and replaced with the proper bolts that were removed to fit them. You often find them in the box with the key.
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« Reply #31 on: 15 October 2018, 19:23:42 »

The crappy GM wheelbolts are fine as long as a "professional" doesn't go near them. I mean, FFS, Blackcircles managed to opps up Jag locking wheelbolts, and they are miles more robust than GM ones.

The GM ones don't cope at all with any impact guns, air or battery.  That includes undoing them.


None of them are any good. As soon as they're overtightened, or damaged in any way and that applies to the keys as well, you're going to have problems.
Best fitted in the bin, and replaced with the proper bolts that were removed to fit them. You often find them in the box with the key.

Agreed. I had hassle with them on the last car. When I got the Omega, I took one look at the crappy GM ones then binned them. :y
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« Reply #32 on: 15 October 2018, 19:25:35 »

Then buy decent ones! It ain't rocket science..
😀😁😂 This is getting so boring 😉
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« Reply #33 on: 15 October 2018, 19:46:11 »

Then buy decent ones! It ain't rocket science..
😀😁😂 This is getting so boring 😉
It certainly is. Let's talk about climate change instead.  :)
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« Reply #34 on: 15 October 2018, 19:52:07 »

Then buy decent ones! It ain't rocket science..
😀😁😂 This is getting so boring 😉
It certainly is. Let's talk about climate change instead.  :)
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It will never happen... I'm waiting 😂
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« Reply #35 on: 15 October 2018, 19:52:40 »

Then buy decent ones! It ain't rocket science..
😀😁😂 This is getting so boring 😉
It certainly is. Let's talk about climate change instead.  :)
If everyone bins the GM ones and buys new ,that would contribute to global warming  :-\
but if the globe was warmer ,that would be less money needs spending on heating bills  8) which is nice  :)
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« Reply #36 on: 15 October 2018, 20:02:17 »

Then buy decent ones! It ain't rocket science..
😀😁😂 This is getting so boring 😉
It certainly is. Let's talk about climate change instead.  :)
If everyone bins the GM ones and buys new ,that would contribute to global warming  :-\
but if the globe was warmer ,that would be less money needs spending on heating bills  8) which is nice  :)
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That's nuts 😎
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« Reply #37 on: 15 October 2018, 20:15:18 »

Then buy decent ones! It ain't rocket science..
😀😁😂 This is getting so boring 😉
It certainly is. Let's talk about climate change instead.  :)
If everyone bins the GM ones and buys new ,that would contribute to global warming  :-\
but if the globe was warmer ,that would be less money needs spending on heating bills  8) which is nice  :)
You can't spend less money on heating bills. The energy companies have a formula that increases prices as consumption goes down.
So, if you use 100 units, it costs £100 @ £1 per unit. If you use 50 units, it costs £100 @ £2 per unit. Seeemples.  ;D
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« Reply #38 on: 15 October 2018, 20:17:28 »

And if you use nothing, they put the standing charge up to £100.
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Re: locking nuts
« Reply #39 on: 15 October 2018, 20:21:34 »

Then buy decent ones! It ain't rocket science..
😀😁😂 This is getting so boring 😉
It certainly is. Let's talk about climate change instead.  :)
If everyone bins the GM ones and buys new ,that would contribute to global warming  :-\
but if the globe was warmer ,that would be less money needs spending on heating bills  8) which is nice  :)
You can't spend less money on heating bills. The energy companies have a formula that increases prices as consumption goes down.
So, if you use 100 units, it costs £100 @ £1 per unit. If you use 50 units, it costs £100 @ £2 per unit. Seeemples.  ;D
But if we all warm the planet up enough , we won't have to pay heating bills  :P
And if you use nothing, they put the standing charge up to £100.
I'll sit down , more comfy than standing and they don't charge sitting down charge .....YET !  ;D
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« Reply #40 on: 15 October 2018, 20:25:10 »

Then buy decent ones! It ain't rocket science..
😀😁😂 This is getting so boring 😉
It certainly is. Let's talk about climate change instead.  :)
If everyone bins the GM ones and buys new ,that would contribute to global warming  :-\
but if the globe was warmer ,that would be less money needs spending on heating bills  8) which is nice  :)
You can't spend less money on heating bills. The energy companies have a formula that increases prices as consumption goes down.
So, if you use 100 units, it costs £100 @ £1 per unit. If you use 50 units, it costs £100 @ £2 per unit. Seeemples.  ;D
But if we all warm the planet up enough , we won't have to pay heating bills  :P
And if you use nothing, they put the standing charge up to £100.
I'll sit down , more comfy than standing and they don't charge sitting down charge .....YET !  ;D
So....you're not gonna have a bath...or a shower? Smelly bastard  ;D
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« Reply #41 on: 15 October 2018, 20:27:15 »

Don't use gas it's very dangerous , if someone overtightens something or leaves something loose very similar to locking nuts on some Vauxhall models.
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« Reply #42 on: 15 October 2018, 20:28:33 »

Don't use gas it's very dangerous , if someone overtightens something or leaves something loose very similar to locking nuts on some Vauxhall models.
These fickin gas fitters, don't they know how to use a torque wrench?  ;D
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« Reply #43 on: 15 October 2018, 20:34:04 »

Don't use gas it's very dangerous , if someone overtightens something or leaves something loose very similar to locking nuts on some Vauxhall models.
These fickin gas fitters, don't they know how to use a torque wrench?  ;D
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Apparently a lot of folk don't know how to use one , unbelievable..
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« Reply #44 on: 15 October 2018, 20:34:14 »

Don't use gas it's very dangerous , if someone overtightens something or leaves something loose very similar to locking nuts on some Vauxhall models.
Indeed , it can't be safe to have fire and flames via "gas pipes"piped  to your home
and now they stared making gas pipes out of yellow MDPE plastic
which i think could melt ,leaking fire out
which could cause er ..... a fire  :o
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« Reply #45 on: 15 October 2018, 20:36:37 »

Don't use gas it's very dangerous , if someone overtightens something or leaves something loose very similar to locking nuts on some Vauxhall models.
Indeed , it can't be safe to have fire and flames via "gas pipes"piped  to your home
and now they stared making gas pipes out of yellow MDPE plastic
which i think could melt ,leaking fire out
which could cause er ..... a fire  :o
Nah. The earth holds the fire in till it reaches the copper pipe outside your house.
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« Reply #46 on: 15 October 2018, 20:44:32 »

I would love to continue this discussion, but my  neighbour has just come home with a flat tyre & she is having trouble getting the wheel off , got one of those damn locknut things on but it's knackered so I'm going to help..
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« Reply #47 on: 15 October 2018, 20:51:12 »

Don't use gas it's very dangerous , if someone overtightens something or leaves something loose very similar to locking nuts on some Vauxhall models.
Indeed , it can't be safe to have fire and flames via "gas pipes"piped  to your home
and now they stared making gas pipes out of yellow MDPE plastic
which i think could melt ,leaking fire out
which could cause er ..... a fire  :o
Nah. The earth holds the fire in till it reaches the copper pipe outside your house.
and the earth/soil heating up (due to melting pipes, leaking fire) ,prior to the copper pipe is why we have "global warming"  :-\
think we might be on to something here  :y
worth starting another a̶r̶g̶u̶m̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶r̶e̶a̶d̶ ̶ global warming thread  :-X

I would love to continue this discussion, but my  neighbour has just come home with a flat tyre & she is having trouble getting the wheel off , got one of those damn locknut things on but it's knackered so I'm going to help..
probably been over- torqued by a "professional"

I bet no one has robbed the other 3 good / non flat wheels  ;D

good luck Mr Tilbo  ;)

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Re: locking nuts
« Reply #48 on: 16 October 2018, 17:32:47 »

but if the globe was warmer ,that would be less money needs spending on heating bills  8) which is nice  :)
But as fossil fuel consumption would drop, we'd have a an ice age.  You know, like the last ice age 20,000yrs ago when Captain Caveman stopped using his Range Rover.
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