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Rules of selling things...
« on: 19 June 2009, 23:05:50 »

Hey,

Ive got a few bits I'd like to put on Vbay, however, being the nice chap I am, I was hoping to give OOFers first refusal, especially as alot of Omega C bits seem to be scarce. However, looks like I need 250 posts to sell anything here...is this rule flexible, given that if I want to sell a car I only need 50 posts?

I dont want to just ignorantly put up an ad, flout rules, thus upsetting moderators, etc..
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« Reply #1 on: 19 June 2009, 23:13:03 »

Flexable witin reason....

The purpose of the postcount requirements was to reduce/loose those who appeared, offerred for sale, took cash then vanished types.  A few genuine folks got stung and it left a bad taste in many mouths.

It does not take long bag the posts.... ;)
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« Reply #2 on: 19 June 2009, 23:15:07 »

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.....  A few genuine folks got stung and it left a bad taste in many mouths...... ;)

I know it had happened on other forums, but I didn't know that anyone on this forum had been stung.  :(
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« Reply #3 on: 19 June 2009, 23:57:42 »

I imagined that would be the reason, yeah.

I suppose I'm conscious of popping my bits on heebay, only to get no real views/ etc...

I was hoping to offer a full 'wood trim' set, but in the customer's choice of finishes... graphite, silver, bodycolour, etc..
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« Reply #4 on: 20 June 2009, 00:00:40 »

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I imagined that would be the reason, yeah.

I suppose I'm conscious of popping my bits on heebay, only to get no real views/ etc...

I was hoping to offer a full 'wood trim' set, but in the customer's choice of finishes... graphite, silver, bodycolour, etc..

Keep posting then ......219 posts to go!  ;D  ;D  ;D
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« Reply #5 on: 20 June 2009, 10:56:35 »

And for reference, no such car as Omega-C, though we live in hope there may be.  Last Omega was Omega-B (94-03)
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« Reply #6 on: 20 June 2009, 20:02:45 »

I was led to understand that the Omega C was the facelift, as there so much different on the facelift they gave it a new type designation!?

Just ebayed 'Omega C'- three pages of people referring to it as the C. Perhaps they are mistaken, but it certainly would make things easier if the facelifts were referred to simply as C.
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« Reply #7 on: 20 June 2009, 20:21:40 »

they are mistaken! Maybe they seen it on Wiki, as thats gospel!!! ;D ;D
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« Reply #8 on: 20 June 2009, 20:56:01 »

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I was led to understand that the Omega C was the facelift, as there so much different on the facelift they gave it a new type designation!?

Just ebayed 'Omega C'- three pages of people referring to it as the C. Perhaps they are mistaken, but it certainly would make things easier if the facelifts were referred to simply as C.
I always refer to it as an Omega C  :y
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Re: Rules of selling things...
« Reply #9 on: 20 June 2009, 21:54:52 »

Cheers!

I do try not to be one of these people that spout stuff confidently/insistently as fact, when i dont really know what Im talking about! If I'm not sure, I keep my gob closed, as 'twere.

I never thought it was in dispute. Especially when you consider bootlid, bonnet, dash, doorcards, grille, rear quarter panel are all significantly different. Thanks again, LSG, so long as I'm not the only one calling it by that name I don't mind! :y

Not calling Monza / The Boy liars, though, I mean, if we all capitulated to popular opinion and agreed where would we be? FRANCE!!

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« Reply #10 on: 20 June 2009, 23:31:02 »

There is not an Omega-C. I wish there was, but there isn't, and its unlucky there ever will be. End of.

Omega-A is the Carlton in the UK.  Omega-B is the Vauxhall Omega in UK, both pre and facelift models.

Both pre and facelift models are mechanically similar, thus they have the same designation - the facelift is precisely that, just a facelift.

Anyone referring to Omega-C is wrong, or know something about GM's plans that nobody else does ;D
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« Reply #11 on: 20 June 2009, 23:33:33 »

Was the facelift not referred to as the B2? I've seen some reference to that in Germany. Or maybe that's just another common mistake?

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« Reply #12 on: 20 June 2009, 23:53:01 »

Yep, referenced as B2 in Germany. Never seen an Omega C and never will unless it's really a Monaro  ::) - The last of the V Car chassis and proof positive that the V Car chassis could handle a big V8.

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« Reply #13 on: 21 June 2009, 00:40:52 »

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I know it had happened on other forums, but I didn't know that anyone on this forum had been stung.  :(
There has been a few Andy, there is a warning in the parts for sale section that names and shames.... :(
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« Reply #14 on: 21 June 2009, 19:49:19 »

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There is not an Omega-C. I wish there was, but there isn't, and its unlucky there ever will be. End of.

Omega-A is the Carlton in the UK.  Omega-B is the Vauxhall Omega in UK, both pre and facelift models.

Both pre and facelift models are mechanically similar, thus they have the same designation - the facelift is precisely that, just a facelift.

Anyone referring to Omega-C is wrong, or know something about GM's plans that nobody else does ;D


Easy, tiger!! I use 'C' because I think it saves confusion. If I say 'C' it's fairly obvious to which car I refer to. Like a Mark I Jag, it was technically called the Jaguar 2.4 or 3.4 Compact; or the Daimler Dart, never officially known as that, it was the SP250; Cossie, what's that, oh you mean the Ford Escort RS Cosworth?

Im not particularly fussed whether it's official, or strictly right or wrong, nor am I trying to argue, but if we were to be truly accurate then there was never anything called 'facelift.' Facelift is a generic slang term used to denote visual range enhancements. It does not appear in brochures, or on the EPC. It is not an official term, sadly. But it does help clarify to people about which car we are speaking. I'm all for an easy life, me  :y

Anyway, we're gettin off topic, I just wondered about the rules of selling of the site, so cheers for all input, boys!

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« Reply #15 on: 21 June 2009, 19:54:37 »

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There is not an Omega-C. I wish there was, but there isn't, and its unlucky there ever will be. End of.

Omega-A is the Carlton in the UK.  Omega-B is the Vauxhall Omega in UK, both pre and facelift models.

Both pre and facelift models are mechanically similar, thus they have the same designation - the facelift is precisely that, just a facelift.

Anyone referring to Omega-C is wrong, or know something about GM's plans that nobody else does ;D


Easy, tiger!! I use 'C' because I think it saves confusion. If I say 'C' it's fairly obvious to which car I refer to. Like a Mark I Jag, it was technically called the Jaguar 2.4 or 3.4 Compact; or the Daimler Dart, never officially known as that, it was the SP250; Cossie, what's that, oh you mean the Ford Escort RS Cosworth?

Im not particularly fussed whether it's official, or strictly right or wrong, nor am I trying to argue, but if we were to be truly accurate then there was never anything called 'facelift.' Facelift is a generic slang term used to denote visual range enhancements. It does not appear in brochures, or on the EPC. It is not an official term, sadly. But it does help clarify to people about which car we are speaking. I'm all for an easy life, me  :y

Anyway, we're gettin off topic, I just wondered about the rules of selling of the site, so cheers for all input, boys!

I have always called it the C as I see the facelifted Omega as the third generation Omega  :y
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« Reply #16 on: 21 June 2009, 21:52:40 »

Blimey its all getting a bit heated. There is no Omega C so get over it.  :P
Vauxhall failed us all with no replacement for the best car ever the Omega :'(
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« Reply #17 on: 22 June 2009, 09:21:50 »

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There is not an Omega-C. I wish there was, but there isn't, and its unlucky there ever will be. End of.

Omega-A is the Carlton in the UK.  Omega-B is the Vauxhall Omega in UK, both pre and facelift models.

Both pre and facelift models are mechanically similar, thus they have the same designation - the facelift is precisely that, just a facelift.

Anyone referring to Omega-C is wrong, or know something about GM's plans that nobody else does ;D


Easy, tiger!! I use 'C' because I think it saves confusion. If I say 'C' it's fairly obvious to which car I refer to. Like a Mark I Jag, it was technically called the Jaguar 2.4 or 3.4 Compact; or the Daimler Dart, never officially known as that, it was the SP250; Cossie, what's that, oh you mean the Ford Escort RS Cosworth?

Im not particularly fussed whether it's official, or strictly right or wrong, nor am I trying to argue, but if we were to be truly accurate then there was never anything called 'facelift.' Facelift is a generic slang term used to denote visual range enhancements. It does not appear in brochures, or on the EPC. It is not an official term, sadly. But it does help clarify to people about which car we are speaking. I'm all for an easy life, me  :y

Anyway, we're gettin off topic, I just wondered about the rules of selling of the site, so cheers for all input, boys!

I am chilled :y

I personally find people using the Omega-C designation confusing, based on the fact I would be looking for Omega-B stuff  :-/

As to Cossie, that had confusion at the time, as deranged Escort owners, poor souls, used it for their Escort Cosworths, but the Sierra was more popular, so most initially though the Sierra was the true Cossie.

I think the only way to be clear is to be reasonably accurate  :-/


I think the term Omega-C has come out of some of the more suspect Ebay/Autotrader sellers, somehow trying to make their ad look newer than eveyone elses, by making their car look superior (facelift is a refinment in many ways, but a step back in others).

As the definative source of info on the Vauxhall Omega and Opel Omega-B on the net (imho ;)), it'd be good if we try to maintain accuracy :D



As to selling, yeah, we've had to put such draconian measures in place due to past happenings on the site.  It was that, or pull the For Sale sections completely.  Its still not foolproof, as can be seen from the Bad Boys List sticky at the top of the Parts For Sale section.

In life generally, I am a bit of a fan of bending the rules if it makes sense, but on a semi anonymous internet site, where with a few exceptions we don't really know people, I am a bit of a stickler for the rules (based on having my fingers burned on other sites I have run). Additionally, what you do for one person, really you have to do for everyone. Other Admins may draw a discrentionary line slightly differently to me - we're all almost human, but I think we all have fairly similar views and standpoints.

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« Reply #18 on: 22 June 2009, 09:26:09 »

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There is not an Omega-C. I wish there was, but there isn't, and its unlucky there ever will be. End of.

Omega-A is the Carlton in the UK.  Omega-B is the Vauxhall Omega in UK, both pre and facelift models.

Both pre and facelift models are mechanically similar, thus they have the same designation - the facelift is precisely that, just a facelift.

Anyone referring to Omega-C is wrong, or know something about GM's plans that nobody else does ;D


Easy, tiger!! I use 'C' because I think it saves confusion. If I say 'C' it's fairly obvious to which car I refer to. Like a Mark I Jag, it was technically called the Jaguar 2.4 or 3.4 Compact; or the Daimler Dart, never officially known as that, it was the SP250; Cossie, what's that, oh you mean the Ford Escort RS Cosworth?

Im not particularly fussed whether it's official, or strictly right or wrong, nor am I trying to argue, but if we were to be truly accurate then there was never anything called 'facelift.' Facelift is a generic slang term used to denote visual range enhancements. It does not appear in brochures, or on the EPC. It is not an official term, sadly. But it does help clarify to people about which car we are speaking. I'm all for an easy life, me  :y

Anyway, we're gettin off topic, I just wondered about the rules of selling of the site, so cheers for all input, boys!

I have always called it the C as I see the facelifted Omega as the third generation Omega  :y
But its not third generation, its still second generation, hence the second generation designation!  How can it be 3rd generation when it is mechanically identical to the 2nd, only having a few minor cosmetic changes to styling?

Remember when in the early 90s that the Escort Mk4 and the Rover 200 were restyled with stick on grills? That didn't give them a new designation, did it?
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« Reply #19 on: 22 June 2009, 11:39:46 »

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I was led to understand that the Omega C was the facelift, as there so much different on the facelift they gave it a new type designation!?

Just ebayed 'Omega C'- three pages of people referring to it as the C. Perhaps they are mistaken, but it certainly would make things easier if the facelifts were referred to simply as C.
I always refer to it as an Omega C  :y

I only refer to it as that when it makes a job bloody difficult!! ::) ::) :D :D ;)
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« Reply #20 on: 22 June 2009, 11:46:01 »

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There is not an Omega-C. I wish there was, but there isn't, and its unlucky there ever will be. End of.

Omega-A is the Carlton in the UK.  Omega-B is the Vauxhall Omega in UK, both pre and facelift models.

Both pre and facelift models are mechanically similar, thus they have the same designation - the facelift is precisely that, just a facelift.

Anyone referring to Omega-C is wrong, or know something about GM's plans that nobody else does ;D


Easy, tiger!! I use 'C' because I think it saves confusion. If I say 'C' it's fairly obvious to which car I refer to. Like a Mark I Jag, it was technically called the Jaguar 2.4 or 3.4 Compact; or the Daimler Dart, never officially known as that, it was the SP250; Cossie, what's that, oh you mean the Ford Escort RS Cosworth?

Im not particularly fussed whether it's official, or strictly right or wrong, nor am I trying to argue, but if we were to be truly accurate then there was never anything called 'facelift.' Facelift is a generic slang term used to denote visual range enhancements. It does not appear in brochures, or on the EPC. It is not an official term, sadly. But it does help clarify to people about which car we are speaking. I'm all for an easy life, me  :y

Anyway, we're gettin off topic, I just wondered about the rules of selling of the site, so cheers for all input, boys!


What's unusual about that? ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) 

This discussion about a Omega 'C', which officially or in any other form does not exist, reminds me of the debate I used to have about the Cortina MkV.

Officially, according to Ford, it never existed but throughout the garage, owners, and enthusiast circles it was constantly refered to as a "MkV", not a "facelift MkIV". :D :D ;)
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« Reply #21 on: 22 June 2009, 12:39:35 »

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There is not an Omega-C. I wish there was, but there isn't, and its unlucky there ever will be. End of.

Omega-A is the Carlton in the UK.  Omega-B is the Vauxhall Omega in UK, both pre and facelift models.

Both pre and facelift models are mechanically similar, thus they have the same designation - the facelift is precisely that, just a facelift.

Anyone referring to Omega-C is wrong, or know something about GM's plans that nobody else does ;D


Easy, tiger!! I use 'C' because I think it saves confusion. If I say 'C' it's fairly obvious to which car I refer to. Like a Mark I Jag, it was technically called the Jaguar 2.4 or 3.4 Compact; or the Daimler Dart, never officially known as that, it was the SP250; Cossie, what's that, oh you mean the Ford Escort RS Cosworth?

Im not particularly fussed whether it's official, or strictly right or wrong, nor am I trying to argue, but if we were to be truly accurate then there was never anything called 'facelift.' Facelift is a generic slang term used to denote visual range enhancements. It does not appear in brochures, or on the EPC. It is not an official term, sadly. But it does help clarify to people about which car we are speaking. I'm all for an easy life, me  :y

Anyway, we're gettin off topic, I just wondered about the rules of selling of the site, so cheers for all input, boys!


What's unusual about that? ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) 

This discussion about a Omega 'C', which officially or in any other form does not exist, reminds me of the debate I used to have about the Cortina MkV.

Officially, according to Ford, it never existed but throughout the garage, owners, and enthusiast circles it was constantly refered to as a "MkV", not a "facelift MkIV". :D :D ;)
I think many traders, particularly 2nd hand ones, tend to try to somehow make their wares superior, and thats why we get in this mess  :'(
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« Reply #22 on: 22 June 2009, 21:37:18 »

On the Opel/Vauxhall electronic parts catalogue there is no such thing as an Omega C. I agree that it would be helpful if there was a C designation to avoid confusion between pre/min facelift and facelift, but as has been strongly emphasised the difference is mostly cosmetic. The facelift car is not a fundamentally different model as per the Carlton/Omega A, or the Carlton/Rekord before that. So there is no Omega C, end of. Use of that designation just confuses people.

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