Topic: Cleaning Breathers on 2.2 ? (Read 4752 times)

tunnie · « **on:** 28 August 2006, 20:18:50 »

I have the feeling they have never been cleaned...

Took a look at the various pipes today, there is the fat one towards the back right, and a couple nearer the front on the drivers side.. are those the only 3?

Can't see any other pipes to remove....

Any advice?

Thanks

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #1 on:** 28 August 2006, 20:24:44 »

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I have the feeling they have never been cleaned...

Took a look at the various pipes today, there is the fat one towards the back right, and a couple nearer the front on the drivers side.. are those the only 3?

Can't see any other pipes to remove....

Any advice?

Thanks

I think so m8.....not totally sure....im sure AA will be along shortly....another Omega expert

.....he did his so will be able to advise

Plus how to make your engine nice and shiney clean

tunnie · « **Reply #2 on:** 28 August 2006, 20:33:06 »

Cheers TD, i am pleased with the state of my engine for 95k miles, and its general ware and tare.... seats are still mint.

I can see myself owning this car with 195k miles

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #3 on:** 28 August 2006, 21:17:04 »

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Cheers TD, i am pleased with the state of my engine for 95k miles, and its general ware and tare.... seats are still mint.

I can see myself owning this car with 195k miles

im not far behind you...70k on mine now....42k when i bought last Nov...didnt start using it until late dec....lpg installer had probs getting parts

Just need to check with vx dealer when they changed the cambelt an tensioners last....i had it done at 42k when i bought it....then water pump bearing went noisey....so that changed plus cambelt again....then tensioner went noisey....so they changed that and cambelt again....ive forgotten the mileage when it was last changed

Need to get myself organised with my 4 cars....i forget when things get done on them

I think a spreadsheet maybe in order

tunnie · « **Reply #4 on:** 28 August 2006, 22:52:19 »

yup nice spreadsheet with dates and a few basic formula's to work out when its due...

Auto Addict · « **Reply #5 on:** 29 August 2006, 06:29:31 »

The bottom arrow points to a little plastic tube, check that it isn't fractured, replace if it is.

The bottom pipe is metal, there are two bolts holding it, with a gasket underneath, you may get away without replacing the gasket if you remove carefully.

Best to clamp these 2 pipes before undoing as they carry water.

Pull the grey lock towards the black stop, then the wireing loom plug (underneath) will release.

Don't forget, after removing the throttle body to put a piece of rag into the down pipe, you don't want to drop anything down it.

Lightly oil the butterfly runners, wiping off any surplus before reasembly.

Don't forget....cleanliness is next to godliness.....

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #6 on:** 29 August 2006, 07:04:16 »

Nice clear pics there AA [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Right off you go Tunnie, I'll expect you to have the job done by lunchtime......No scrub that....i nearly forgot you dont get up until lunchtime

TheBoy · « **Reply #7 on:** 29 August 2006, 08:21:56 »

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I'll expect you to have the job done by lunchtime......No scrub that....i nearly forgot you dont get up until lunchtime

Looks like a job that can be done with a Belkin PC toolkit, so no worries

Auto Addict · « **Reply #8 on:** 29 August 2006, 08:23:49 »

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I'll expect you to have the job done by lunchtime......No scrub that....i nearly forgot you dont get up until lunchtime

Looks like a job that can be done with a Belkin PC toolkit, so no worries

Hammer, pair of pliers, Brillo pad and some Cif

TheBoy · « **Reply #9 on:** 29 August 2006, 08:25:06 »

I know he has some proper carb cleaner solvent

TheBoy · « **Reply #10 on:** 29 August 2006, 08:26:04 »

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I know he has some proper carb cleaner solvent

Assuming he hasn't sniffed it all.... ....we know how poor students need a cheap fix

Auto Addict · « **Reply #11 on:** 29 August 2006, 08:28:09 »

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I know he has some proper carb cleaner solvent
Assuming he hasn't sniffed it all.... ....we know how poor students need a cheap fix

We won't know till after mid day, he doesn't get up till then.....

TheBoy · « **Reply #12 on:** 29 August 2006, 08:43:16 »

I have visions of his mum shouting up the stairs "Get up you lazy sod, or the dog will have your bacon and eggs" - no wonder he's so skinny, the dog eats his food...

tunnie · « **Reply #13 on:** 29 August 2006, 10:36:37 »

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I have visions of his mum shouting up the stairs "Get up you lazy sod, or the dog will have your bacon and eggs" - no wonder he's so skinny, the dog eats his food...

Funny you should say that, the Vet as commented the dog is a litte fat!

All this abuse before even got up! Pah sniffing stuff?

I am very good for a student, don't smoke, don't sniff stuff!

Cheers for the piccys AA [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

I have a FULL tin of carb cleaner so i'll put that stuff to work. My facelift has felt so much better since I.. (well Jamie helped

) began to service it.

Although my discs and Pads are being worn in the wrong way, the brake fluid change did wonders... should be interesting cleaning the breathers.

TheBoy · « **Reply #14 on:** 29 August 2006, 10:43:29 »

Keeping the oil tip top (ie change more regular than you previously had) will help stop breathers from getting clogged. Likewise for your fathers 2.2

tunnie · « **Reply #15 on:** 29 August 2006, 10:52:00 »

Be interesting to see how clogged they are, if they are really really full of crap i'll clean it all up & then do another oil change. I still have 2 filters and a full 5 litre bottle of oil...

nixoro · « **Reply #16 on:** 29 August 2006, 11:56:13 »

Keep an eye on the rear cover breather mine has had a problem having had a (flame trap) oil seperator fitted the clips that were used were crap and who ever fitted it cut the pipe wrong helping towards a regular leaking rear breather, re cut the pipe so hopefully this has sort of solved one of my issues I think I may need to invest in a new rocker cover gasket and some proper sealant, was gonna do it this weekend just gone but traced the oil leak I think to the rear breather.

Fingers Crossed.

Auto Addict · « **Reply #17 on:** 29 August 2006, 13:43:54 »

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Keep an eye on the rear cover breather mine has had a problem having had a (flame trap) oil seperator fitted the clips that were used were crap and who ever fitted it cut the pipe wrong helping towards a regular leaking rear breather, re cut the pipe so hopefully this has sort of solved one of my issues I think I may need to invest in a new rocker cover gasket and some proper sealant, was gonna do it this weekend just gone but traced the oil leak I think to the rear breather.

Fingers Crossed.

2.2 shouldn't need a flame trap, if you change the oil regularly.

nixoro · « **Reply #18 on:** 29 August 2006, 13:46:19 »

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Keep an eye on the rear cover breather mine has had a problem having had a (flame trap) oil seperator fitted the clips that were used were crap and who ever fitted it cut the pipe wrong helping towards a regular leaking rear breather, re cut the pipe so hopefully this has sort of solved one of my issues I think I may need to invest in a new rocker cover gasket and some proper sealant, was gonna do it this weekend just gone but traced the oil leak I think to the rear breather.

Fingers Crossed.

2.2 shouldn't need a flame trap, if you change the oil regularly.

Fair point although I always thought they would be needed on both the 2.0 and the 2.2

Auto Addict · « **Reply #19 on:** 29 August 2006, 13:48:59 »

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Keep an eye on the rear cover breather mine has had a problem having had a (flame trap) oil seperator fitted the clips that were used were crap and who ever fitted it cut the pipe wrong helping towards a regular leaking rear breather, re cut the pipe so hopefully this has sort of solved one of my issues I think I may need to invest in a new rocker cover gasket and some proper sealant, was gonna do it this weekend just gone but traced the oil leak I think to the rear breather.

Fingers Crossed.

2.2 shouldn't need a flame trap, if you change the oil regularly.

Fair point although I always thought they would be needed on both the 2.0 and the 2.2

I'm quoting Mark on this one, my car has done 37K over 4.1/2 years with at least 2 oil changes a year.

Breathers and throttle body were quite clean at 35K, first time clean.

mar892ree · « **Reply #20 on:** 29 August 2006, 18:16:49 »

Tunnie, you may need to push or pull something through the two left hand side ( rocker box to throttle body ) breather pipes.

If these havent been cleaned before the smaller one of the two may well be VERY blocked ! Carb cleaner alone will not shift all the crap inside, so something like a coat hanger ( straightened out of course ) with a bit of rag secured on the end of it, will help scrape out all the crap ! You will be amazed just how blocked this smaller breather can get !

I'm not contraditing an earlier post , but i really dont think its nessasary to remove the throttle body at all !

All the back / crabon build up on the butterfly can be cleaned with throttle body in situ ! Although prelonged squirts of carb cleaner can form a nice puddle of solvent in the bottom of the intake housing , and make for a nice big bang when you re-start the engine

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Also check and clean the air intake pipe work ( black plastic assy, that you uncliped form the top of your throttle body ) as this can get quite messed up too especially in that dead ended chamber between the mass air flow sensor and the throttle body !

I's also like to know why is it the 2.2's seem to get a bit dirty round the throttle body, oil /petrol mix !
Maybe because of the breather pipes , who knows !

Mark

Auto Addict · « **Reply #21 on:** 29 August 2006, 18:26:27 »

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I's also like to know why is it the 2.2's seem to get a bit dirty round the throttle body, oil /petrol mix !
Maybe because of the breather pipes , who knows !

Mark

Mine hasn't since I removed the throttle body and replaced the gasket.

mar892ree · « **Reply #22 on:** 29 August 2006, 18:29:29 »

Hehehhehehe hahahhahah Nice one AA, so should i now remove the throtle body LLOLLL

Mark

Auto Addict · « **Reply #23 on:** 29 August 2006, 18:37:39 »

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Hehehhehehe hahahhahah Nice one AA, so should i now remove the throtle body LLOLLL

Mark

Correct....

tunnie · « **Reply #24 on:** 29 August 2006, 18:42:22 »

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Tunnie, you may need to push or pull something through the two left hand side ( rocker box to throttle body ) breather pipes.

If these havent been cleaned before the smaller one of the two may well be VERY blocked ! Carb cleaner alone will not shift all the crap inside, so something like a coat hanger ( straightened out of course ) with a bit of rag secured on the end of it, will help scrape out all the crap ! You will be amazed just how blocked this smaller breather can get !

I'm not contraditing an earlier post , but i really dont think its nessasary to remove the throttle body at all !

All the back / crabon build up on the butterfly can be cleaned with throttle body in situ ! Although prelonged squirts of carb cleaner can form a nice puddle of solvent in the bottom of the intake housing , and make for a nice big bang when you re-start the engine .

Also check and clean the air intake pipe work ( black plastic assy, that you uncliped form the top of your throttle body ) as this can get quite messed up too especially in that dead ended chamber between the mass air flow sensor and the throttle body !

I's also like to know why is it the 2.2's seem to get a bit dirty round the throttle body, oil /petrol mix !
Maybe because of the breather pipes , who knows !

Mark

Cheers for that. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

I am going to give the whole system a good clean, was going to do it this morning but it started raining

I was thinking of running something though the pipes myself, maybe a rag or something. But a wire coat hanger would do the job...

I'll post up piccys of my pipes as well, when i clean them up.

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #25 on:** 29 August 2006, 19:04:03 »

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I am going to give the whole system a good clean, was going to do it this morning but it started raining

Surely you mean the afternoon

Starting work at 5 minutes before midday....doesnt count as the morning

Auto Addict · « **Reply #26 on:** 29 August 2006, 19:45:51 »

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I am going to give the whole system a good clean, was going to do it this morning but it started raining

How on earth would you know if was raining this morning?

TheBoy · « **Reply #27 on:** 29 August 2006, 19:55:41 »

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I am going to give the whole system a good clean, was going to do it this morning but it started raining

Raining in garage?

tunnie · « **Reply #28 on:** 29 August 2006, 20:22:59 »

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I am going to give the whole system a good clean, was going to do it this morning but it started raining

How on earth would you know if was raining this morning?

I heard it on the windows....

And if its raining it means I will get wet on the way to the garage.... plus i really could't be bothered today!

TheBoy · « **Reply #29 on:** 29 August 2006, 20:24:29 »

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i really could't be bothered today!

I suspected that was the case. Still, you were a busy boy on my project this weekend. And possible next weekend as well

tunnie · « **Reply #30 on:** 29 August 2006, 20:31:09 »

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i really could't be bothered today!
I suspected that was the case. Still, you were a busy boy on my project this weekend. And possible next weekend as well

Yeh er i think i am washing my hair then

I was very busy yesterday with the fluid on my facelift.

mar892ree · « **Reply #31 on:** 29 August 2006, 20:33:45 »

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh Tunnie, i had to read that twice !!

Thought you said you had some fluid on your face !!!! Now let me think LLOOLLLLLL

TheBoy · « **Reply #32 on:** 29 August 2006, 20:39:25 »

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Yeh er i think i am washing my hair then

I was very busy yesterday with the fluid on my facelift.

Good, as its brake fluid I need to do, and Mrs TheBoy is out.... ...the flipping stuff needs changing badly - talk about fade....

tunnie · « **Reply #33 on:** 29 August 2006, 21:41:12 »

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Yeh er i think i am washing my hair then

I was very busy yesterday with the fluid on my facelift.
Good, as its brake fluid I need to do, and Mrs TheBoy is out.... ...the flipping stuff needs changing badly - talk about fade....

Thought you said on the way back they felt quite good? Or have the gone since then?

Actually remind me to bring my camera, I can take a picture of the acutal bleeding of the caliper with a G-Clamp. As it was mentioned my maintaince guide was a little vauge there and i think it needs some pictures!

TheBoy · « **Reply #34 on:** 29 August 2006, 21:46:41 »

The pads bite well, but now its running properly, I tried some big stops, and boy does it fade bad after a couple of biggies....

tunnie · « **Reply #35 on:** 29 August 2006, 21:52:42 »

and the way you drive they will be biggies!

mine stops a lot better now after the change, see what you think of the difference on mine

TheBoy · « **Reply #36 on:** 29 August 2006, 21:58:05 »

I'm never driving yours again. Too embassed after the wheelspinning incident and the tail twitch drama...

tunnie · « **Reply #37 on:** 29 August 2006, 22:04:15 »

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I'm never driving yours again. Too embassed after the wheelspinning incident and the tail twitch drama...

Thats just cause your hooligan

, really we should have oposite driving styles. I should be the one wheel spinning at my age

TheBoy · « **Reply #38 on:** 29 August 2006, 22:06:40 »

I couldn't agree more. I should be getting a flat cap and a nice comfortable cardigan, and some driving gloves....

tunnie · « **Reply #39 on:** 29 August 2006, 22:08:19 »

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I couldn't agree more. I should be getting a flat cap and a nice comfortable cardigan, and some driving gloves....

Auto Addict · « **Reply #40 on:** 30 August 2006, 06:39:17 »

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I couldn't agree more. I should be getting a flat cap and a nice comfortable cardigan, and some driving gloves....

We all thought you'd already got them.......

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #41 on:** 30 August 2006, 06:43:49 »

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I couldn't agree more. I should be getting a flat cap and a nice comfortable cardigan, and some driving gloves....

I could say, AA might be able to give you some advice on that, but i wont coz he might not see the funny side

Auto Addict · « **Reply #42 on:** 30 August 2006, 06:46:00 »

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I couldn't agree more. I should be getting a flat cap and a nice comfortable cardigan, and some driving gloves....

I could say, AA might be able to give you some advice on that, but i wont coz he might not see the funny side

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