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[omega3000]

Not wired the tow bar up yet but what Relay do i need to buy , is it vx part 

[Andy H]

Vauxhall sell a reassuringly expensive indicator relay (about £50 IIRC) that will light the tell tale on the dash if it senses the extra load of a trailer indicator. You do need to fit the bulb in the instrument console but the wiring is already there.

I thought the VX price was a bit steep so I went to an independent Land Rover dealer and got a Lucas relay for about £15.

Either the VX or pattern relay is a straight swap for the original indicator relay.

I also bought a module to monitor the brake lights but I have never found the time to fit it..

[omega3000]

Vauxhall sell a reassuringly expensive indicator relay (about £50 IIRC) that will light the tell tale on the dash if it senses the extra load of a trailer indicator. You do need to fit the bulb in the instrument console but the wiring is already there.

I thought the VX price was a bit steep so I went to an independent Land Rover dealer and got a Lucas relay for about £15.

Either the VX or pattern relay is a straight swap for the original indicator relay.

I also bought a module to monitor the brake lights but I have never found the time to fit it..

Bloody hell the skinflints dont even fit a bulb to save money    Is there a part number for the relay or what should i be asking for ?

[Andy H]

When I was sourcing my towbar in February 2011 AndyC sent me this part number

Relay 90463123.

I don't have a description so I can't be sure it is the indicator relay....

Not sure why I thought it was so expensive, Andy quoted me £19.57

[Andy B]

When I was sourcing my towbar in February 2011 AndyC sent me this part number

Relay 90463123.

I don't have a description so I can't be sure it is the indicator relay....

Not sure why I thought it was so expensive, Andy quoted me £19.57

It's not. It's the 'trailer check control' 'relay'/box of electrickery. It extends the brake check from the car to your trailer/caravan ........ http://oldsite.omegaowners.com//forum/YaBB.pl?num=1175364013/all .... depends on preface lift or facelift as to where it lives 

[Andy H]

When I was sourcing my towbar in February 2011 AndyC sent me this part number

Relay 90463123.

I don't have a description so I can't be sure it is the indicator relay....

Not sure why I thought it was so expensive, Andy quoted me £19.57

It's not. It's the 'trailer check control' 'relay'/box of electrickery. It extends the brake check from the car to your trailer/caravan ........ http://oldsite.omegaowners.com//forum/YaBB.pl?num=1175364013/all .... depends on preface lift or facelift as to where it lives 

Thanks Andy(B).

Do you have the correct part number?

[omega3000]

90463123 is that the part i need ?

Im not very good at electricery  getting a bit confused as where to start . Cant it just be spliced into original wiring at the back , why does it need a relay/buzzer and stuff 

[Andy B]

When I was sourcing my towbar in February 2011 AndyC sent me this part number

Relay 90463123.

I don't have a description so I can't be sure it is the indicator relay....

Not sure why I thought it was so expensive, Andy quoted me £19.57

It's not. It's the 'trailer check control' 'relay'/box of electrickery. It extends the brake check from the car to your trailer/caravan ........ http://oldsite.omegaowners.com//forum/YaBB.pl?num=1175364013/all .... depends on preface lift or facelift as to where it lives 

Thanks Andy(B).

Do you have the correct part number?

That is the correct part number 

[Andy B]

90463123 is that the part i need ?

Im not very good at electricery  getting a bit confused as where to start . Cant it just be spliced into original wiring at the back , why does it need a relay/buzzer and stuff 

You NEED a 4 pin flasher relay instead of the 3 in already fitted under the column

But the the 'relay' above is a nice to have so you can tell if your brake lights work while towing but, if you pick up the brake light feed at the socket in the boot (yellow/black ) it needs to have the relay fitted up front for the trailer brake lights to work OR you can bridge the relevant connections in the base where the relay would fit to give a feed to your trailer OR pick the trailer brake light feed up from one of the car's brake lights. 

[omega3000]

90463123 is that the part i need ?

Im not very good at electricery  getting a bit confused as where to start . Cant it just be spliced into original wiring at the back , why does it need a relay/buzzer and stuff 

You NEED a 4 pin flasher relay instead of the 3 in already fitted under the column

But the the 'relay' above is a nice to have so you can tell if your brake lights work while towing but, if you pick up the brake light feed at the socket in the boot (yellow/black ) it needs to have the relay fitted up front for the trailer brake lights to work OR you can bridge the relevant connections in the base where the relay would fit to give a feed to your trailer OR pick the trailer brake light feed up from one of the car's brake lights. 

Thats what ill get then , dont have to be vauxhall does it ? Think i have some spare bulbs , should i disconnect the battery while wiring up 

Where's everyone gone .. are you not interested in us tin tent boys 

[Andy B]

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Thats what ill get then , dont have to be vauxhall does it ? Think i have some spare bulbs , should i disconnect the battery while wiring up 

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No, it doesn't need to be from Vauxhall, Halfords will sell them

By rights you should always disconnect the battery .......... but not everybody does   

[omega3000]

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Thats what ill get then , dont have to be vauxhall does it ? Think i have some spare bulbs , should i disconnect the battery while wiring up 

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No, it doesn't need to be from Vauxhall, Halfords will sell them

By rights you should always disconnect the battery .......... but not everybody does   

Thanks Andy , ill pop in and see what they have .. 

Thanks AndyH as well 

No doubt ill be asking a few more questions 

[4x4]

Wire up towbar electrics direct to loom at rear,
Change 3pin flasher to a 4 pin
Then other relay fits under glove box
Insert bulb for trailer light,

Is that correct as to how ive read everything

[Andy B]

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Thanks Andy , ill pop in and see what they have .. 

I hope they're not as expensive as their wiper blades. I got a price on line for a pair of Bosch 19" wipers for my daughter's car ....... £19  I got a pair of Bosch wiper blades from a motorfactors for less than £8 

[Andy B]

Wire up towbar electrics direct to loom at rear,
Change 3pin flasher to a 4 pin
Then other relay fits under glove box
Insert bulb for trailer light,

Is that correct as to how ive read everything

yes   

* depends on age of car. I forget which way round, but it can live above the driver's feet too 

[omega3000]

Wire up towbar electrics direct to loom at rear,
Change 3pin flasher to a 4 pin
Then other relay fits under glove box
Insert bulb for trailer light,

Is that correct as to how ive read everything

yes   

* depends on age of car. I forget which way round, but it can live above the driver's feet too 

Splendid , its all making sense now  Vauxhall part mite be cheaper , ill ring them and see .. you never know 

[4x4]

Ok,emd il pop round after work 1 evening and wire it up for you

[omega3000]

Ok,emd il pop round after work 1 evening and wire it up for you

Excellent  Hopefully no swarm of attacking wasps this time   

Bring soldering iron/solder if you have still got it mate 

[omega3000]

Well hope i got the right Relay   There was 4 different types with 4 pins but if its wrong i can take it back to Alfods , nice blonde woman didnt have much idea which one i should take either 

Oh it was £6 .

[Andy B]

Well hope i got the right Relay   There was 4 different types with 4 pins but if its wrong i can take it back to Alfods , nice blonde woman didnt have much idea which one i should take either 

Oh it was £6 .

Flasher relay ........  price wise I think you've just got a standard relay ie a switch 

[Andy H]

The Omega has front and rear indicators (each 21 Watts) a side repeater (10 Watts? or maybe also 21 Watts ) and an indicator in the dash (1.2 Watts? or 4 Watts?)

Your relay may say something like '21W+21W+10W+1.2W' in which case it should just work.

The first one I tried was too sensitive & saw the side repeater as a trailer. They found me another which was less sensitive and that behaves as it should.

[omega3000]

All it says is 12v 30 amp 

Theres a diagram on the relay looks like this ...


     86              87
      |                |
      __              o               
     |__| _ _ _ _ .\_
       |                  o
      85                 o
                           |
                          30

12V                   30A

[Andy B]

All it says is 12v 30 amp 

You've bought a relay  not a flasher 'relay'

[Andy B]

Do you have somewhere local to you that fits towbars etc? They'll know what you need. 

[omega3000]

Do you have somewhere local to you that fits towbars etc? They'll know what you need. 

Ill have a look ..

What about this 

relay

[Andy B]

Do you have somewhere local to you that fits towbars etc? They'll know what you need. 

Ill have a look ..

What about this 

relay

Ot looks like it might be ok, I couldn't be certain though

[omega3000]

Arrrrrgh !!!

[omega3000]

Still no joy on this relay 

Will this do the job ?

Bypass Relay


Help !!! 

[RobG]

Still no joy on this relay 

Will this do the job ?

Bypass Relay


Help !!! 

This is the genuine article

[RobG]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-140-Watt-12V-Electronic-Hazard-Flasher-unit-BL16-/270779941896

[Andy B]

Still no joy on this relay 

Will this do the job ?

Bypass Relay


Help !!! 

No. That's a completely different thing ....... you don't need one of them in an Omega, but if you did, it would supply your trailer lights.

[omega3000]

Still no joy on this relay 

Will this do the job ?

Bypass Relay


Help !!! 

This is the genuine article

Thanks Rob  Am i right in saying its the LAW now to fit audible indicators 

I have the audible bit 

[Andy B]

Thanks Rob  Am i right in saying its the LAW now to fit audible indicators 

No, you just need a method of knowing an indicator has failed. You can use a buzzer as you suggest or add a lamp to the dash that indicate that they are working, but often these days with CANbus on newer cars, its sufficient for the indicators to rapid flash (as they do on the car) when one of the trailer indicators fails.

[omega3000]

Thanks Rob  Am i right in saying its the LAW now to fit audible indicators 

No, you just need a method of knowing an indicator has failed. You can use a buzzer as you suggest or add a lamp to the dash that indicate that they are working, but often these days with CANbus on newer cars, its sufficient for the indicators to rapid flash (as they do on the car) when one of the trailer indicators fails.

Ok understood andy  I will fit a bulb anyway  Maybe i can start to look for a tin tent now 

[Andy B]

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Maybe i can start to look for a tin tent now 

  I'm sure you'll enjoy using it when you get it. Have you any idea what you're after? Only the two of us (and a Mutt) go away in ours so have a large 2 berth .... a Lunar 520/2 single axle.

[omega3000]

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Maybe i can start to look for a tin tent now 

  I'm sure you'll enjoy using it when you get it. Have you any idea what you're after? Only the two of us (and a Mutt) go away in ours so have a large 2 berth .... a Lunar 520/2 single axle.

Thats a nice van 



2 berth is plenty big enough , not looking for anything fancy just something that will do the job of taking us away for a few days away a year . Looking forward to it , always liked caravanning and after the last camping trip and getting bitten to bits by bugs and crawling in and out of a tent the caravan will suit my needs much better  Dont mind getting something that needs a bit of sprucing up and diy , hopefully we can get a few holidays in before end of season .

[Andy B]

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Thats a nice van 
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I think your picture must be of one a bit newer than ours.

This is like ours