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Re: No Boost on my 2.2DTi
« Reply #15 on: 10 September 2013, 08:04:57 »

There's not that many people on here who've got them to be honest and when the fuel pump fails they are generally scrapped.
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Re: No Boost on my 2.2DTi
« Reply #16 on: 10 September 2013, 08:12:43 »

There's not that many people on here who've got them to be honest and when the fuel pump fails they are generally scrapped.

Its not the pump that fails, the mechanics are bullet proof, its the drive transistors in the electronic module. These can be replaced by some outfits for a few hundred notes.
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Re: No Boost on my 2.2DTi
« Reply #17 on: 10 September 2013, 08:21:41 »

There's not that many people on here who've got them to be honest and when the fuel pump fails they are generally scrapped.

Its not the pump that fails, the mechanics are bullet proof, its the drive transistors in the electronic module. These can be replaced by some outfits for a few hundred notes.

About £400 at every place I spoke too, bigger problem with my car was that I could see no way to remove the EDC (specifically to get at cutting the two black wires) with the pump in situ, so that means removing the pump, which in turn means locking the crank etc... and on a 170K car it raises the question of replacing the chain guides and what if the turbo or something else expensive was to die next... do you really spend that sort of money on an 11 year old car? On a V6 I wouldn't question it, on a DTi it was a different conclusion for me.

Should add though, parts of my DTi live on in various other cars  :y
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Re: No Boost on my 2.2DTi
« Reply #18 on: 10 September 2013, 12:19:58 »

Last one I had done was 200 notes by a company in Cannock (Tachosoft? on a Vectra C), wires were tricky to cut but managed it, I simply extended the wires befreo re-fit to make soldering easier.

These engines do intergallactic miles so not much to worry about with the rest.

The trick is the priming bulb with one way valve for EDU longevity
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Re: No Boost on my 2.2DTi
« Reply #19 on: 10 September 2013, 12:49:02 »

Last one I had done was 200 notes by a company in Cannock (Tachosoft? on a Vectra C), wires were tricky to cut but managed it, I simply extended the wires befreo re-fit to make soldering easier.

These engines do intergallactic miles so not much to worry about with the rest.

The trick is the priming bulb with one way valve for EDU longevity

Yep, I spoke to them at the time, I think they are quoting £380 now if it's the usual issue.

Where did you install the priming bulb? Only obvious place to me was at the front of the engine (In an Omega with the engine facing North / South) as it is away from the hot turbocharger and manifold, Guessing that would be awkward on a FWD car though.


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Re: No Boost on my 2.2DTi
« Reply #20 on: 10 September 2013, 13:07:42 »

The bulb is just by the fuel filter on my Vectra. Just sits nicely out the way but not used since I replaced the top injector seals, but I wont remove it.
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Re: No Boost on my 2.2DTi
« Reply #22 on: 10 September 2013, 13:13:23 »

There's not that many people on here who've got them to be honest and when the fuel pump fails they are generally scrapped.
im no help to your problem but I love my dti wish I could find spares a bit a little cheaper though  :y
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Re: No Boost on my 2.2DTi
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Re: No Boost on my 2.2DTi
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Re: No Boost on my 2.2DTi
« Reply #25 on: 10 September 2013, 13:46:56 »

Bottom line is that these diesel setups are simple.

A very useful diag tool is a Gunsons Lo-Gauge, this allows you to measure the vac in the system be it pre or post actuator valve.

You can also use the 'suck' method to test things by sucking on certain pipes to ensure the actuators operate.
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Re: No Boost on my 2.2DTi
« Reply #26 on: 10 September 2013, 14:17:18 »

Just checked, still two hundred :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Frontera-DTi-TD-Bosch-VP44-VP30-Diesel-Pump-EDC-EDU-Module-Repair-Service-VOR-/121173471953?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1c368072d1

Interesting! They quoted me £380 on the phone, couldn't find anything on eBay when I was looking.

I recall that being the price for a full pump

Oh well, too late now, far too much required to resurrect my DTi as most of it's parts are in other Omega's now! Shame as it was a decent car before the fuel pump issue.
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Re: No Boost on my 2.2DTi
« Reply #27 on: 10 September 2013, 14:19:34 »

Bottom line is that these diesel setups are simple.

A very useful diag tool is a Gunsons Lo-Gauge, this allows you to measure the vac in the system be it pre or post actuator valve.

You can also use the 'suck' method to test things by sucking on certain pipes to ensure the actuators operate.

There's a couple of Vac tanks that can get missed while trying to diagnose issues - one in the drivers wing (where the carbon canister would be on a V6) and one behind the pollen filter. Most vac issues seem to be traceable to those rubber elbows imho.
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Re: No Boost on my 2.2DTi
« Reply #28 on: 10 September 2013, 14:36:11 »

Bottom line is that these diesel setups are simple.

A very useful diag tool is a Gunsons Lo-Gauge, this allows you to measure the vac in the system be it pre or post actuator valve.

You can also use the 'suck' method to test things by sucking on certain pipes to ensure the actuators operate.

There's a couple of Vac tanks that can get missed while trying to diagnose issues - one in the drivers wing (where the carbon canister would be on a V6) and one behind the pollen filter. Most vac issues seem to be traceable to those rubber elbows imho.

Ah right, back on topic! Ha ha  :D :D ;D

Thanks VXL V6, I'll check them out as well...  :y
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Re: No Boost on my 2.2DTi
« Reply #29 on: 10 September 2013, 16:45:50 »

Sorry for the thread drift  :-[ :)
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