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Re: How stable is your Omega in the rain
« Reply #15 on: 18 October 2018, 16:48:40 »

So as said I知 sure I知 due a geo set up which I値l take care of.

Is there an OOF approved budget tyre? Or do the words budget and tyre not go together lol 👍👍👍
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Re: How stable is your Omega in the rain
« Reply #16 on: 18 October 2018, 16:54:39 »

Accelera if you must... Winter tyres are cheaper than standard at about 」60 a corner from Camskill :y

Otherwise you should probably dig a bit deeper and buy some real tyres... Dunlop Blueresponse seem to work.  ;)
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Re: How stable is your Omega in the rain
« Reply #17 on: 18 October 2018, 16:55:34 »

Of course, no one has mentioned the old RWD v FWD situation. Give me FWD anytime in wet conditions on the motorway.
So that you definitely die as you lose traction AND steering simultaneously  ::)
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Re: How stable is your Omega in the rain
« Reply #18 on: 18 October 2018, 17:03:04 »

Of course, no one has mentioned the old RWD v FWD situation. Give me FWD anytime in wet conditions on the motorway.
So that you definitely die as you lose traction AND steering simultaneously  ::)
I think that's a load of old fanny.  ::) Driven wheels are going to clear more water than wheels that are being pushed along any day of the week. Modern cars with stability control and the like are much less likely to lose control than older vehicles. With the correct tyres and fwd, aquaplaning really shouldn't happen.
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Re: How stable is your Omega in the rain
« Reply #19 on: 18 October 2018, 17:23:50 »

Of course, no one has mentioned the old RWD v FWD situation. Give me FWD anytime in wet conditions on the motorway.
So that you definitely die as you lose traction AND steering simultaneously  ::)


Makes sod all difference if the tyre is the cause.
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Re: How stable is your Omega in the rain
« Reply #20 on: 18 October 2018, 17:27:31 »

Modern auto, wwd and turbo is the trifecta of total lack of control in slippery stuff...

Vectra C Estate cdti auto 0
Omega 3.2 manual 1

Never had a problem with the Omega in crap conditions.
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Re: How stable is your Omega in the rain
« Reply #21 on: 18 October 2018, 17:28:16 »

Its poor quality tyres that cause acceptable dry weather grip but woeful wet weather. "Black and round" to get an MOT simply isn't good enough for our wet climate.

All the other suggestions, worth doing mind, would impact dry handling as well.



For the record, TBE is ultra stable in heavy rain, but not to the complete, utter, planted level of the Silver Bullet...   ...something I could never understand, and have spent much time and energy (well, chrisgixer's energy ::)) in trying to get TBE the same.

My idea of stable/planted is in a different league to tunnie's idea of planted on those Kumhos.  Although his choice of tyre is quite acceptable for his driving style - its a tyre that gives pretty reasonable wet/dry grip, but no feedback, which is ideal for him...  ...and dare I say you Webby.
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Re: How stable is your Omega in the rain
« Reply #22 on: 18 October 2018, 17:28:27 »

Of course, no one has mentioned the old RWD v FWD situation. Give me FWD anytime in wet conditions on the motorway.
So that you definitely die as you lose traction AND steering simultaneously  ::)


Makes sod all difference if the tyre is the cause.
Lego tyres aren't a good idea on a road vehicle right enough ;)
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Re: How stable is your Omega in the rain
« Reply #23 on: 18 October 2018, 17:31:58 »

Is there an OOF approved budget tyre?
Michelin PS4. About 」100 per tyre (fitted price - be cheaper for you if your place can fit) in Elite sizes.  Downside, they give a bit of roadnoise.
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Re: How stable is your Omega in the rain
« Reply #24 on: 18 October 2018, 18:25:13 »

Is there an OOF approved budget tyre?
Michelin PS4. About 」100 per tyre (fitted price - be cheaper for you if your place can fit) in Elite sizes.  Downside, they give a bit of roadnoise.

Bit too pricey for me. I値l try some Toyos and I値l fit them. They were 」50 each last time I checked (225/55/16)
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Re: How stable is your Omega in the rain
« Reply #25 on: 18 October 2018, 18:27:51 »

It's worth remembering the aquaplaning formula; 9 x √P (P= tyre pressure), so for 36PSI your aquaplaning speed ~
54mph. :y
This will vary from tyre to tyre, but is a useful rough guide. :y
Does depth of water have any bearing on that equation? :-[
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Re: How stable is your Omega in the rain
« Reply #26 on: 18 October 2018, 19:32:56 »

It's worth remembering the aquaplaning formula; 9 x √P (P= tyre pressure), so for 36PSI your aquaplaning speed ~
54mph. :y
This will vary from tyre to tyre, but is a useful rough guide. :y
Does depth of water have any bearing on that equation? :-[

Depth of water vs depth/type of tread will clearly make a difference. If the tyre is able to disperse the water such that it is in firm contact with concrete/tarmac W.H.Y., it will not aquaplane so easily.
Dragslicks on 1" of water..... :-X
It is just a useful guide, such that if, for example, you know your tyres are down to minimums, you may expect to aquaplane at the appropriate speed in very heavy rain. HTH
It was not uncommon with A/C tyres, after landing in heavy rain, to discover the occasional patch of 'boiled' rubber on the tread. IIRC the Tristar tyre pressures were about 180psi giving an aquaplaning speed of 120 mph, while landing speed was about 140mph.:y
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Re: How stable is your Omega in the rain
« Reply #27 on: 18 October 2018, 19:35:33 »

Never had a problem when I had my 2.6 but never skimped on tyres always good quality ones.
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Re: How stable is your Omega in the rain
« Reply #28 on: 18 October 2018, 21:38:52 »

Is there an OOF approved budget tyre?
Michelin PS4. About 」100 per tyre (fitted price - be cheaper for you if your place can fit) in Elite sizes.  Downside, they give a bit of roadnoise.

Bit too pricey for me. I値l try some Toyos and I値l fit them. They were 」50 each last time I checked (225/55/16)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D You'd not want to buy tyres for my Merc then .....  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: How stable is your Omega in the rain
« Reply #29 on: 18 October 2018, 21:49:21 »

In the wet is when a RWD becomes worth it, lots of fun ::)
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