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Re: cam covers
« Reply #15 on: 27 July 2011, 15:39:47 »

Thanks joff. I shall probably do the job on friday.
the bits have just arrived. I'll have to do the breathers as well as there is a heck of a lot of oil around the back end of the cam covers. I hope its not too near the exhaust manifold.
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Re: cam covers
« Reply #16 on: 28 July 2011, 13:25:36 »

I hope you have got new Vauxhall cam cover joints and not the flea bay type :y
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Re: cam covers
« Reply #17 on: 28 July 2011, 21:54:12 »

Hey everybody,

question : is there any difference between Omega and Vectra x25xe cam covers? My Omega's camcover is made of plastic and I'd like to change it to a Vectra's metal one! Are they compatible? Can I use that one instead if this one? 

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Re: cam covers
« Reply #18 on: 28 July 2011, 22:08:12 »

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Took me all weekend and i only did one side  ;D plus a cam belt and pulley change, water pump, plugs and that was at the cam meet a few mths back. Mind it was a late start on the Sunday and the other side was not leaking but have done the hard to get to side :y

Oh, yeah, I did the cam belt, water pump, plugs and thermostat too. :-[
And got plastered IIRC... ;D
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Re: cam covers
« Reply #19 on: 28 July 2011, 22:39:56 »

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Hey everybody,

question : is there any difference between Omega and Vectra x25xe cam covers? My Omega's camcover is made of plastic and I'd like to change it to a Vectra's metal one! Are they compatible? Can I use that one instead if this one? 

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They will fit, although you'll have to fit the filler to the wrong side of the engine. The question is... Why? If the breathers are kept clean and the covers ate torqued correctly they won't leak ;)

If you do fit metal ones, keep on top of the breathers... The next weakest point if it pressurises is likely to be a camshaft seal ;)
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Re: cam covers
« Reply #20 on: 28 July 2011, 23:08:12 »

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Hey everybody,

question : is there any difference between Omega and Vectra x25xe cam covers? My Omega's camcover is made of plastic and I'd like to change it to a Vectra's metal one! Are they compatible? Can I use that one instead if this one? 

Thanks for all answer

They will fit, although you'll have to fit the filler to the wrong side of the engine. The question is... Why? If the breathers are kept clean and the covers ate torqued correctly they won't leak ;)

If you do fit metal ones, keep on top of the breathers... The next weakest point if it pressurises is likely to be a camshaft seal ;)
OK thank you, Mr Lazy :y :y :y
and excuse for my poor english... :)
« Last Edit: 28 July 2011, 23:10:48 by Fapad »
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Re: cam covers
« Reply #21 on: 29 July 2011, 09:35:18 »

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Hey everybody,

question : is there any difference between Omega and Vectra x25xe cam covers? My Omega's camcover is made of plastic and I'd like to change it to a Vectra's metal one! Are they compatible? Can I use that one instead if this one? 

Thanks for all answer

They will fit, although you'll have to fit the filler to the wrong side of the engine. The question is... Why? If the breathers are kept clean and the covers ate torqued correctly they won't leak ;)

If you do fit metal ones, keep on top of the breathers... The next weakest point if it pressurises is likely to be a camshaft seal ;)
I'm sure you mean the crank seal, Mr LD ;)

It is a myth that plastic ones warp (they have to be severely abused by a poor mechanic). The key is to use genuine gaskets and fit them correctly, then thery are good for years.
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Re: cam covers
« Reply #22 on: 29 July 2011, 18:55:14 »

Well I've don the cam cover gaskets. Did the breathers too its taken all yesterday afternoon and till about 2.00 this arvo
Started her up and seems ok runs smoothly enough. I did find that one of the small breather pipes to the plenum was split and had come off the plenum altogether and the others all had the clips missing, fixed now though.
The passenger side cover was a right bu**er. after a lot of fiddling and farting about i got it on and felt underneath to make sure that the gasket was still in situ  not at all. Damn thing had fallen out so it  had to come off again. I put a few little blobs of black goo in the slot and it was ok the second time around.
Yes i did use the proper VX bits, thanks to Andy.
Thanks for all your help. I won,t be quite so nervous of the top end next time. :y :y :) :)
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Re: cam covers
« Reply #23 on: 29 July 2011, 19:30:52 »

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Hey everybody,

question : is there any difference between Omega and Vectra x25xe cam covers? My Omega's camcover is made of plastic and I'd like to change it to a Vectra's metal one! Are they compatible? Can I use that one instead if this one? 

Thanks for all answer

They will fit, although you'll have to fit the filler to the wrong side of the engine. The question is... Why? If the breathers are kept clean and the covers ate torqued correctly they won't leak ;)

If you do fit metal ones, keep on top of the breathers... The next weakest point if it pressurises is likely to be a camshaft seal ;)
I'm sure you mean the crank seal, Mr LD ;)

It is a myth that plastic ones warp (they have to be severely abused by a poor mechanic). The key is to use genuine gaskets and fit them correctly, then thery are good for years.

It's said that the cooling not so effective in case of cylinders in the middle as outsider ones. So plastic covers could be deformed or warped by thermo difference. Can it be correct?
« Last Edit: 29 July 2011, 19:32:33 by Fapad »
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Re: cam covers
« Reply #24 on: 29 July 2011, 19:34:36 »

I repeat, warping covers, if properly fitted, is a myth
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Re: cam covers
« Reply #25 on: 29 July 2011, 19:53:39 »

OK , Thank you!!! :y
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Re: cam covers
« Reply #26 on: 30 July 2011, 10:15:22 »

I think The Boy, is right you can only tighten the down so much on to the posts. You are more likely to strip the brass thread than warp the cam covers.
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Re: cam covers
« Reply #27 on: 30 July 2011, 10:26:08 »

mine on my old car were certainly warped to hell for some reason.

dodgy mechanic suspected :y
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