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Re: Stupid kick-down question.
« Reply #60 on: 16 September 2014, 19:26:52 »

theres a sketch of the pipes done by mark in the link above.
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Re: Stupid kick-down question.
« Reply #61 on: 16 September 2014, 19:33:54 »

i've seen the sketch but just wanted to make sure what i'm seeing on the car is the same as whats on that  :y
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Re: Stupid kick-down question.
« Reply #62 on: 17 September 2014, 18:04:43 »

Webby - on your car, the vac tank pictured does both the front and rear multiram.

Said vac tank has a 1 way valve on it's inlet, essentially to allow the manifold to pull a vac in it, and then the vac tank can maintain a vac for a few multiram operations no matter what the manifold is doing (and obviously the manifold will keep maintaining the vac whenever possible.

So, you have either:
A leak in the pipes/rubbers/t-pieces from vac tank to multirams
A leak in the multiram solenoids
A failed one way valve in the vac tank's inlet     <<<<  LIKELY!
Vac tank incorrectly connected      <<<< LIKELY if someone has been pissing around ;)
A leaking vac tank
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Re: Stupid kick-down question.
« Reply #63 on: 17 September 2014, 18:57:20 »

Webby - on your car, the vac tank pictured does both the front and rear multiram.

Said vac tank has a 1 way valve on it's inlet, essentially to allow the manifold to pull a vac in it, and then the vac tank can maintain a vac for a few multiram operations no matter what the manifold is doing (and obviously the manifold will keep maintaining the vac whenever possible.

So, you have either:
A leak in the pipes/rubbers/t-pieces from vac tank to multirams
A leak in the multiram solenoids
A failed one way valve in the vac tank's inlet     <<<<  LIKELY!
Vac tank incorrectly connected      <<<< LIKELY if someone has been pissing around ;)
A leaking vac tank

TB, thanks very much for the post.

Pic again for clarity...

I ran engine for few mins. Pulled top pipe off the tank arrowed. Nothing. Ran engine again. Pulled bottom pipe off. Nothing. New vac tank? (It looks replaceable with two clips.... I presume that's correct and I don't have to buy the whole bagpipe assembly  ::))

Thanks mate  :y

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Re: Stupid kick-down question.
« Reply #64 on: 17 September 2014, 19:08:22 »

Just fit a one way valve to the pipe feeding the tank ;)

Or I see RobG has one ;)

2 torx bolts.


Have you ruled out other areas of leakage?
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Re: Stupid kick-down question.
« Reply #65 on: 17 September 2014, 19:16:44 »

Just fit a one way valve to the pipe feeding the tank ;)

Or I see RobG has one ;)

2 torx bolts.


Have you ruled out other areas of leakage?

Thanks mate.

I've looked at all the pipes and I cant find any ''randoms'' just hanging loose.

I have been looking at Mark's diagram and I think I have it done correctly but I'm going to quadruple check. 

In a few i'll post up where the various pipes from this vac box go just to double check.

Is it worth pursuing the vac box behind the pollen filter? I listened to it as ma switched car off and hiss is not coming from the pollen filter area. but I know not if this a definite diagnosis (although I hope so as that one behind the pollen filter looks a reet pita!)

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Re: Stupid kick-down question.
« Reply #66 on: 18 September 2014, 11:34:11 »

Gooood morning fellas,

Think we have a diagnosis  :)

Went out this morning and quadruple checked the routing against Mark's expert guide.

It's all spot on!

Undid the vac tank to inspect it. No obvious gouges or holes.

SO. This sounds like a new front vac reservoir needed?
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Re: Stupid kick-down question.
« Reply #67 on: 18 September 2014, 12:46:08 »

Pps, is the one way valve the small one on the vac reservoir? and presumably shouldn't let any air out when car switch off?

just checked on car and it lets all air out within a second or two (sounds like the hiss).
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Re: Stupid kick-down question.
« Reply #68 on: 18 September 2014, 19:41:05 »

Ok, thanks to rob g for sorting me out a new vac res.

I've gone out and checked the vac lines AGAIN lol definitely spot on and as per guide.

I've also checked all lines and t pieces and nothing is broken.

Now I've mulled this over and as the lines are hooked up correctly it has to be a bad reservoir. . . No hiss when I pull the smaller outlet line cos the bigger lines one way valve is allowing vacuum to escape.
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Re: Stupid kick-down question.
« Reply #69 on: 26 September 2014, 15:37:14 »

Not bumping guys, but thought I'd update with a resolution :)

RobG kindly sent me a replacement vac box. . . . . . I now have a hiss after I pull one of the multiram lines (the smaller one).

So, clearly the oneway valve was bad. Going to smash the old one open to inspect :)

Will be testing its power later :):):)
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Re: Stupid kick-down question.
« Reply #70 on: 26 September 2014, 18:07:56 »

....different car!!!!!!!!!  :) :) :) :) :) :)

Now got some god damn power between 2k and 4k RPM!!!!!!!

Cheers for all ya help guys  :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y
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Re: Stupid kick-down question.
« Reply #71 on: 26 September 2014, 19:47:00 »

Easy & cheap fix then Steve :y
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Re: Stupid kick-down question.
« Reply #72 on: 26 September 2014, 19:57:07 »

Easy & cheap fix then Steve :y

Spot on Rob  :y

Thanks for quick n slick service as usual  :y
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Re: Stupid kick-down question.
« Reply #73 on: 26 September 2014, 19:58:02 »

Glad to have been of help mate :)
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Re: Stupid kick-down question.
« Reply #74 on: 26 September 2014, 20:06:45 »

Glad to have been of help mate :)

Cheers mate  :y

Smashed the old one open....



There was a little bit of damage on that rubber gasket (?)........ I avoided smashing that with the hammer.

Not really sure how they fail cos its not like there's much stress there. having said that vacuum from engine is strong (ask my mate who put his fingers in a closed throttle body  ::) ;D)
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