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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #495 on: 06 December 2018, 09:26:08 »

It gets more farcical. The basis of the whole thing has been to prevent a hard border on Ireland and to preserve and protect the Belfast/ good Friday agreement at all costs.
However it turns out that the deal is fundamentally in breach of that agreement, as the most important fundamental principle of the Belfast agreement is that the status of Northern Ireland can never be changed without the consent of its people.
The backstop arrangements in the deal do exactly that. You couldnt make this stuff up. Its incompetence of staggering magnitude, as someone used to say. ;D
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #496 on: 06 December 2018, 10:02:36 »

That's like Bill Cash MP point that May's deal is incompatible with the Withdrawal Agreement which sets the Brexit legal framework. May's reply is that the Withdrawal Agreement will have to be amended afterwards, which is surely arse about face where the deal must fit what MPs have agreed as the treaty's constraints.

Where May is determined with her unnamed establishment grey cardinals to try to keep us locked in the EU at all costs, continually insults our intelligence with her delusional serial lying where she is clearly uncomfortable and struggles even to stutter her lying words out.

It is time this useless waste of good oxygen PM, serial failure minister and poor MP was put out to pasture by MPs and at the next GE by the electorate. If they don't then most Tory MPs will be looking for a new job in 2022 and they will have set a good example by ignoring their GE sheet of lies (manifesto) which won't be lost on Corbyn if he gains power. :(
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #497 on: 06 December 2018, 10:15:51 »

BBC Moscow correspondent: We just translate the Russian propaganda we are given verbatim as that way we don't get into trouble with the RU government and given a hard time (which can include being roughed up as a 'street crime') or made persona non-grata. What about the Ukrainian side? Well we don't have a BBC correspondent in Kyiv, so we can't give one!

Then you see MPs quoting Russian active measures on Ukraine where they have seen or heard it on the BBC. These day's I'm in the habit of picking people up and correcting them of this.
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #498 on: 06 December 2018, 12:20:33 »

It gets more farcical. The basis of the whole thing has been to prevent a hard border on Ireland and to preserve and protect the Belfast/ good Friday agreement at all costs.
However it turns out that the deal is fundamentally in breach of that agreement, as the most important fundamental principle of the Belfast agreement is that the status of Northern Ireland can never be changed without the consent of its people.
The backstop arrangements in the deal do exactly that. You couldnt make this stuff up. Its incompetence of staggering magnitude, as someone used to say. ;D
Me, Albs, I used to say that....and still do.  ;D
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #499 on: 06 December 2018, 12:24:26 »

The 'top secret' full legal advice from the Attorney General can be read here:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/exiting-the-eu-publication-of-legal-advice
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #500 on: 06 December 2018, 12:36:02 »

Curious to understand how the UK can leave an UK wide customs union ???
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #501 on: 06 December 2018, 12:40:18 »

It gets more farcical. The basis of the whole thing has been to prevent a hard border on Ireland and to preserve and protect the Belfast/ good Friday agreement at all costs.
However it turns out that the deal is fundamentally in breach of that agreement, as the most important fundamental principle of the Belfast agreement is that the status of Northern Ireland can never be changed without the consent of its people.
The backstop arrangements in the deal do exactly that. You couldnt make this stuff up. Its incompetence of staggering magnitude, as someone used to say. ;D
Me, Albs, I used to say that....and still do.  ;D

Its worse than incompetent. I cant see how it can be lawful. The Belfast agreement was signed into UK, Irish, and I believe EU law and this proposed deal is in clear breach of it.
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #502 on: 06 December 2018, 13:05:20 »

We could die before this is sorted  ;D
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #503 on: 06 December 2018, 13:06:32 »

Speak for yourself Grandad.  :P ;D
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #504 on: 06 December 2018, 13:17:23 »

We could die before this is sorted  ;D
The way my man flu is going, you may well be right. :'(
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #505 on: 06 December 2018, 13:19:33 »

We could die before this is sorted  ;D
The way my man flu is going, you may well be right. :'(
Had me free pensioner jab.  ;D
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #506 on: 06 December 2018, 13:23:06 »

We could die before this is sorted  ;D

It was not supposed to be this complicated.

Brexit was 'supposed' to be done and dusted in two flicks of a lambs tail. ::)

We issue a set of demands to the EU and all 27  drop to their knees in submission.

........however, in the real world. :-\

Sadly, dear old JRM and his small band of 'hard brexiteers' seem unable to grasp that the days of British imperialism are long gone. :-X
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #507 on: 06 December 2018, 13:24:25 »

We could die before this is sorted  ;D

It was not supposed to be this complicated.

Brexit was 'supposed' to be done and dusted in two flicks of a lambs tail. ::)

We issue a set of demands to the EU and all 27  drop to their knees in submission.

........however, in the real world. :-\
Mr Rog knows all about flicking a lambs tail to one side.  :)
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #508 on: 06 December 2018, 13:26:45 »

We could die before this is sorted  ;D

It was not supposed to be this complicated.

Brexit was 'supposed' to be done and dusted in two flicks of a lambs tail. ::)

We issue a set of demands to the EU and all 27  drop to their knees in submission.

........however, in the real world. :-\
Mr Rog knows all about flicking a lambs tail to one side:)

Exactly what are you suggesting?...... ;D
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #509 on: 06 December 2018, 13:29:10 »

We could die before this is sorted  ;D

It was not supposed to be this complicated.

Brexit was 'supposed' to be done and dusted in two flicks of a lambs tail. ::)

We issue a set of demands to the EU and all 27  drop to their knees in submission.

........however, in the real world. :-\
Mr Rog knows all about flicking a lambs tail to one side:)

Exactly what are you suggesting?...... ;D
Should be a law against it. At least wait until they've grown up.  ;D
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