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« on: 07 March 2020, 13:41:46 »

Any preferred suppliers ?
My oppser has sprung a leak  :(
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Re: Exhausts
« Reply #1 on: 08 March 2020, 07:38:48 »

Any preferred suppliers ?
My oppser has sprung a leak  :(

I need to get a full system including cats for a 3.2

I've done 10k since I realised that.
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Re: Exhausts
« Reply #2 on: 08 March 2020, 08:13:36 »

Had a genuine VX system fitted on my 2.6 a few years back as the car was over 10 years old I got  it with a 70 percent discount as it was "new old stock" from my local VX main dealership, did a great job & sounded superb.
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Re: Exhausts
« Reply #3 on: 08 March 2020, 10:04:47 »

Had a genuine VX system fitted on my 2.6 a few years back as the car was over 10 years old I got  it with a 70 percent discount as it was "new old stock" from my local VX main dealership, did a great job & sounded superb.
The last set of genuine GM exhausts I saw, which was admittedly a good few years ago, had suffered a massive drop in quality, and were no better than the Eternal and ETS ones which are around 1/3rd of the price.  I doubt very much there are any of the older higher quality ones in GM anywhere now.
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Re: Exhausts
« Reply #4 on: 08 March 2020, 18:22:10 »

Had a genuine VX system fitted on my 2.6 a few years back as the car was over 10 years old I got  it with a 70 percent discount as it was "new old stock" from my local VX main dealership, did a great job & sounded superb.
The last set of genuine GM exhausts I saw, which was admittedly a good few years ago, had suffered a massive drop in quality, and were no better than the Eternal and ETS ones which are around 1/3rd of the price.  I doubt very much there are any of the older higher quality ones in GM anywhere now.

VX changed the supplier of their exhausts years ago to Bosal, hence the drop in quality
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Re: Exhausts
« Reply #5 on: 08 March 2020, 21:45:57 »

Eternal / ETS have been the zorst of choice for several years now.
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Re: Exhausts
« Reply #6 on: 09 March 2020, 00:29:09 »

I have fitted Bosal to two of my Omegas, both centre pipes and the back box, and in my opinion they are good quality. I got them from the local Bosal factory outside Preston (it has now closed), and they are made from a thick gauge steel, fit perfectly and sound well. Price was very good as well.
They seem better quality than the spare brand new VX pipes and back boxes that I have.
I've no complaints with them at all and I have used various makes of exhausts over the years on different cars.
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Re: Exhausts
« Reply #7 on: 09 March 2020, 08:22:31 »

  https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Full-exhaust-from-CAT-mounting-kit-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-B-3-0-V6-Saloon-1994-2001/392447044579?fits=Car+Make%3AVauxhall%7CModel%3AOmega&hash=item5b5faaabe3:g:TxcAAOSwkaddjL4m


 What's not to like, old one off, re-fit after drilling out flanges. Job done. :y

 Tools needed, drill, 5/16 bit, 13mm socket and ratchet, 13mm spanner, bit of exhaust paste of choice,  pair of ramps, or 4 axle stands and Jack. :y
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Re: Exhausts
« Reply #8 on: 09 March 2020, 09:26:55 »

  https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Full-exhaust-from-CAT-mounting-kit-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-B-3-0-V6-Saloon-1994-2001/392447044579?fits=Car+Make%3AVauxhall%7CModel%3AOmega&hash=item5b5faaabe3:g:TxcAAOSwkaddjL4m


 What's not to like, old one off, re-fit after drilling out flanges. Job done. :y

 Tools needed, drill, 5/16 bit, 13mm socket and ratchet, 13mm spanner, bit of exhaust paste of choice,  pair of ramps, or 4 axle stands and Jack. :y
You make it sound easy! Having broken off a few bits drilling out the old screws, I prefer to heat up the old screws and flanges and cautiously ease out the old screws, then clean up the threads and use new screws. I curse the day when Vx changed from screws and nuts (Senator) to tapped holes and screws (Omega).
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Re: Exhausts
« Reply #9 on: 09 March 2020, 09:29:48 »

Recently bought exact same mid box section for mine to be fitted later.

Noticed that they now have a join along the long section of pipe and a connection bracket.Maybe to reduce parcel and postage costs ,but may also aid fitting .
Quick delivery and all parts included although unsure of quality of rubber hangers
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Re: Exhausts
« Reply #10 on: 09 March 2020, 09:55:04 »

  https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Full-exhaust-from-CAT-mounting-kit-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-B-3-0-V6-Saloon-1994-2001/392447044579?fits=Car+Make%3AVauxhall%7CModel%3AOmega&hash=item5b5faaabe3:g:TxcAAOSwkaddjL4m


 What's not to like, old one off, re-fit after drilling out flanges. Job done. :y

 Tools needed, drill, 5/16 bit, 13mm socket and ratchet, 13mm spanner, bit of exhaust paste of choice,  pair of ramps, or 4 axle stands and Jack. :y
You make it sound easy! Having broken off a few bits drilling out the old screws, I prefer to heat up the old screws and flanges and cautiously ease out the old screws, then clean up the threads and use new screws. I curse the day when Vx changed from screws and nuts (Senator) to tapped holes and screws (Omega).

I could never understand why Vauxhall threaded the down pipe & had clearance holes in the exhaust. Had they done it the other way round it wouldn't have mattered if the bolt sheared off in the bit you were about to replace.
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« Reply #11 on: 09 March 2020, 10:27:28 »

  https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Full-exhaust-from-CAT-mounting-kit-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-B-3-0-V6-Saloon-1994-2001/392447044579?fits=Car+Make%3AVauxhall%7CModel%3AOmega&hash=item5b5faaabe3:g:TxcAAOSwkaddjL4m


 What's not to like, old one off, re-fit after drilling out flanges. Job done. :y

 Tools needed, drill, 5/16 bit, 13mm socket and ratchet, 13mm spanner, bit of exhaust paste of choice,  pair of ramps, or 4 axle stands and Jack. :y
You make it sound easy! Having broken off a few bits drilling out the old screws, I prefer to heat up the old screws and flanges and cautiously ease out the old screws, then clean up the threads and use new screws. I curse the day when Vx changed from screws and nuts (Senator) to tapped holes and screws (Omega).

 
 Because it is easy, with decent drill bits, of all the 6 Omega I owned,all got the same treatment on the downpipes, I also removed the 15mn nuts on the manifolds and replaced them with m10, 17mm nuts n washers, yes a faff but worth it in the long run.
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Re: Exhausts
« Reply #12 on: 09 March 2020, 11:18:30 »

Okay, finally got a dry day off and up on ramps  :(

Its much MUCH worse then I thought  :'(
The car is fitted with converted 3ltr cats and the end piece / flange of the cat which mates up to the centre section has rotted away to the point that it has broken away from the cat pipe itself  :'(

Anyway around this ?
I really don't want to fit another cat if I can get away with it.
Maybe cut the ends off and fit a inline flexible sleeve to join it up ?

I do have a picture of it but cant find the picture resizing software / remember how to oppsing do it  :-[
If anybody could supply me a email address via pm and post it, I would appreciate it  :)
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Re: Exhausts
« Reply #13 on: 09 March 2020, 11:29:41 »

  https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Full-exhaust-from-CAT-mounting-kit-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-B-3-0-V6-Saloon-1994-2001/392447044579?fits=Car+Make%3AVauxhall%7CModel%3AOmega&hash=item5b5faaabe3:g:TxcAAOSwkaddjL4m


 What's not to like, old one off, re-fit after drilling out flanges. Job done. :y

 Tools needed, drill, 5/16 bit, 13mm socket and ratchet, 13mm spanner, bit of exhaust paste of choice,  pair of ramps, or 4 axle stands and Jack. :y
You make it sound easy! Having broken off a few bits drilling out the old screws, I prefer to heat up the old screws and flanges and cautiously ease out the old screws, then clean up the threads and use new screws. I curse the day when Vx changed from screws and nuts (Senator) to tapped holes and screws (Omega).


that's because Trevor doesn't faff about drilling tiny holes and then attempting to open them up in stages at too low a speed. That just means the drill rubs instead of cutting and causes problems.A good centre punch and straight in with a good quality, sharp 8mm(5/16" for those stuck in the 19th century) bit at full speed on your cordless drill gets the job done.


Wire brushing the protruding end of the bolt and applying your penetrating fluid of choice before trying to undo them is a good start, but once they break you're back to the drill. If you don't get the bolt cherry red, then heating it is a waste of time; oxy-acetylene is necessary for that, a butane blow torch won't do it. If you have oxy-acetylene, you heat the broken bolts to red hot and knock them out with a punch.
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« Reply #14 on: 09 March 2020, 11:59:49 »

  https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Full-exhaust-from-CAT-mounting-kit-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-B-3-0-V6-Saloon-1994-2001/392447044579?fits=Car+Make%3AVauxhall%7CModel%3AOmega&hash=item5b5faaabe3:g:TxcAAOSwkaddjL4m


 What's not to like, old one off, re-fit after drilling out flanges. Job done. :y

 Tools needed, drill, 5/16 bit, 13mm socket and ratchet, 13mm spanner, bit of exhaust paste of choice,  pair of ramps, or 4 axle stands and Jack. :y
You make it sound easy! Having broken off a few bits drilling out the old screws, I prefer to heat up the old screws and flanges and cautiously ease out the old screws, then clean up the threads and use new screws. I curse the day when Vx changed from screws and nuts (Senator) to tapped holes and screws (Omega).


that's because Trevor doesn't faff about drilling tiny holes and then attempting to open them up in stages at too low a speed. That just means the drill rubs instead of cutting and causes problems.A good centre punch and straight in with a good quality, sharp 8mm(5/16" for those stuck in the 19th century) bit at full speed on your cordless drill gets the job done.


Wire brushing the protruding end of the bolt and applying your penetrating fluid of choice before trying to undo them is a good start, but once they break you're back to the drill. If you don't get the bolt cherry red, then heating it is a waste of time; oxy-acetylene is necessary for that, a butane blow torch won't do it. If you have oxy-acetylene, you heat the broken bolts to red hot and knock them out with a punch.

   
Have you been an exhaust fitter as-well Nick,  first thing I was learned, use the blue spanner, and knock it thro, after cutting the nuts off first  :y
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