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Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
« Reply #75 on: 12 August 2016, 12:29:41 »

I do like the classic Mercs, W126 would be nice, big comfy cruiser. Straight 6 engines look nice and easy to work on.

Insurance being such an issue I might have to get MrsT something smaller and I keep the 3.2 for my own use, as it's surprisingly cheap insurance wise, well at least it was last year.

Transfer the LPG kit over to the 3.2 and you have your commuting car. :y
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Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
« Reply #76 on: 12 August 2016, 12:52:37 »

I do like the classic Mercs, W126 would be nice, big comfy cruiser. Straight 6 engines look nice and easy to work on.

Insurance being such an issue I might have to get MrsT something smaller and I keep the 3.2 for my own use, as it's surprisingly cheap insurance wise, well at least it was last year.

Transfer the LPG kit over to the 3.2 and you have your commuting car. :y

LPG kit next to useless for the 3.2, only good for a 4 banger. ECU 4 pot, single hole multi-valve tank :'(

That said if I get a new 2.2, I'd swap the kit over, with just a newer tank which sits flush with the back.

But for the cost of a new clean 2.2, I could buy LPG kit for the 3.2
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Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
« Reply #77 on: 12 August 2016, 13:44:22 »

Your LPG kit will pretty much bolt onto any 4 pot GM product...
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Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
« Reply #78 on: 12 August 2016, 13:47:55 »

I do like the classic Mercs, W126 would be nice, big comfy cruiser. Straight 6 engines look nice and easy to work on.

Insurance being such an issue I might have to get MrsT something smaller and I keep the 3.2 for my own use, as it's surprisingly cheap insurance wise, well at least it was last year.

Transfer the LPG kit over to the 3.2 and you have your commuting car. :y

LPG kit next to useless for the 3.2, only good for a 4 banger. ECU 4 pot, single hole multi-valve tank :'(

That said if I get a new 2.2, I'd swap the kit over, with just a newer tank which sits flush with the back.

But for the cost of a new clean 2.2, I could buy LPG kit for the 3.2

The ECUs actually all support up to 8 pots, assuming it's a Stag 300. You just need a few extra wires in the loom. Injectors will be tired any way by now. With your famous "driving style", would you find the limitations of a single hole tank?  :P
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Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
« Reply #79 on: 12 August 2016, 13:50:17 »

Your LPG kit will pretty much bolt onto any 4 pot GM product...

Nothing else really appeals, Astra/Vectra. If I was going to swap it over, be onto a 2.2 Sport. eg something like this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-Vauxhall-Opel-Omega-2-2i-16v-Sport-Automatic-carlton-senator-/252495536681?hash=item3ac9e82229:g:EigAAOSw0RpXlfTm

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Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
« Reply #80 on: 12 August 2016, 13:51:08 »

I do like the classic Mercs, W126 would be nice, big comfy cruiser. Straight 6 engines look nice and easy to work on.

Insurance being such an issue I might have to get MrsT something smaller and I keep the 3.2 for my own use, as it's surprisingly cheap insurance wise, well at least it was last year.

Transfer the LPG kit over to the 3.2 and you have your commuting car. :y

LPG kit next to useless for the 3.2, only good for a 4 banger. ECU 4 pot, single hole multi-valve tank :'(

That said if I get a new 2.2, I'd swap the kit over, with just a newer tank which sits flush with the back.

But for the cost of a new clean 2.2, I could buy LPG kit for the 3.2

The ECUs actually all support up to 8 pots, assuming it's a Stag 300. You just need a few extra wires in the loom. Injectors will be tired any way by now. With your famous "driving style", would you find the limitations of a single hole tank?  :P

Oh really?  :-\

I was under the impression my ECU would not cope with 6? *digs around to find my original LPG kit info.
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Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
« Reply #81 on: 12 August 2016, 13:52:19 »

I do like the classic Mercs, W126 would be nice, big comfy cruiser. Straight 6 engines look nice and easy to work on.

Insurance being such an issue I might have to get MrsT something smaller and I keep the 3.2 for my own use, as it's surprisingly cheap insurance wise, well at least it was last year.

Transfer the LPG kit over to the 3.2 and you have your commuting car. :y

LPG kit next to useless for the 3.2, only good for a 4 banger. ECU 4 pot, single hole multi-valve tank :'(

That said if I get a new 2.2, I'd swap the kit over, with just a newer tank which sits flush with the back.

But for the cost of a new clean 2.2, I could buy LPG kit for the 3.2

The ECUs actually all support up to 8 pots, assuming it's a Stag 300. You just need a few extra wires in the loom. Injectors will be tired any way by now. With your famous "driving style", would you find the limitations of a single hole tank?  :P

The student is right... His kit wouldn't fit the 3.2  ;) And it's only marginally suitable for the 2.2... A good spanking (a real one, not a Tunnie one :-X ::)) will highlight the underrated vaporiser within minutes ;)
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Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
« Reply #82 on: 12 August 2016, 13:53:15 »

I do like the classic Mercs, W126 would be nice, big comfy cruiser. Straight 6 engines look nice and easy to work on.

Insurance being such an issue I might have to get MrsT something smaller and I keep the 3.2 for my own use, as it's surprisingly cheap insurance wise, well at least it was last year.

Transfer the LPG kit over to the 3.2 and you have your commuting car. :y

LPG kit next to useless for the 3.2, only good for a 4 banger. ECU 4 pot, single hole multi-valve tank :'(

That said if I get a new 2.2, I'd swap the kit over, with just a newer tank which sits flush with the back.

But for the cost of a new clean 2.2, I could buy LPG kit for the 3.2

The ECUs actually all support up to 8 pots, assuming it's a Stag 300. You just need a few extra wires in the loom. Injectors will be tired any way by now. With your famous "driving style", would you find the limitations of a single hole tank?  :P

Oh really?  :-\

I was under the impression my ECU would not cope with 6? *digs around to find my original LPG kit info.

The ECU won't, neither will the loom, injectors and certainly not the vap ;)
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Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
« Reply #83 on: 12 August 2016, 13:53:56 »


The ECUs actually all support up to 8 pots, assuming it's a Stag 300. You just need a few extra wires in the loom. Injectors will be tired any way by now. With your famous "driving style", would you find the limitations of a single hole tank?  :P

Oh really?  :-\

I was under the impression my ECU would not cope with 6? *digs around to find my original LPG kit info.
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I think they did do a 4 pot only ECU, but guessing yours was from Teilo like the rest of ours, and I believe he only supplied the 300 / 300 Plus/Extra, etc.
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Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
« Reply #84 on: 12 August 2016, 14:01:10 »

No, mine was eBay, just checked. Stag4 ECU so won't do 6 pots.
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Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
« Reply #85 on: 12 August 2016, 14:21:56 »

I'd need something like this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STAG-300-6-AUTOGAS-SEQUENTIAL-INJECTION-LPG-6-CYLINDER-KIT-W-VALTEK-INJECTORS-/290803454725?hash=item43b53c9305:m:m7BZu-v5o3VOZg3B4E6N6Ew

OMVL injectors tad more in another kit.

Plus the rear end kit, guess I could re-use the tank frame and straps. But I'd need a new 80L tank and filler valve.
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Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
« Reply #86 on: 12 August 2016, 14:28:44 »

Bad luck on the ECU. :(

IIRC Jaime used a decent single hole valve on the bullet with no problems. Tank might well be getting close to 10 years now anyway, if you wanted to get it certified.
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Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
« Reply #87 on: 12 August 2016, 14:35:32 »

System fitted 6 years ago, although would need to check age on tank itself. I ordered an 80L but gave me a 90L from Tinley Tech, problem was it never went fully back against back seats. I'd prob invest in a new 80L tank if I did go LPG route.

I've struggled to get time with little fatty, the 3.2 is well over-due it's cambelt. So doubt we can find time to LPG it, even if we did any niggles I'd need his help and I just don't have the time to do 75 mile run to his. Even when I do, he is busy himself, so can't really see it working.

Now looking at S60 Auto Diesels, cheap enough (sub £1.5k) and will give me a test to see what DERV is like on my commute.
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Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
« Reply #88 on: 12 August 2016, 17:06:29 »

Volvo. Auto. Diesel. About the worst combination, as just about all the advice on here has testified.


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Re: The Omega Replacement conundrum.
« Reply #89 on: 12 August 2016, 17:23:30 »

Your LPG kit will pretty much bolt onto any 4 pot GM product...

Nothing else really appeals, Astra/Vectra. If I was going to swap it over, be onto a 2.2 Sport. eg something like this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-Vauxhall-Opel-Omega-2-2i-16v-Sport-Automatic-carlton-senator-/252495536681?hash=item3ac9e82229:g:EigAAOSw0RpXlfTm

Almost £1500 for a 2.2 Omega. A sense of humour is a wonderful thing. ::) ::)
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